How to check if pv is killing atomizers

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4 510 atomizers and one Lr 306 atomizer have died in the five or so weeks that I've had my Feedimus. Is there any way to check if the Feedimus is killing them? Could it be the battery? After the last atomizer died I noticed that the spring that holds the battery had become completely compressed(I had to decompress the spring with my fingers) and part of the spring had changed color from silver to blue. Btw, I'm using a protected aw 18650 2600mah battery.
 

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Sorry, I can't offer much help. The only thing that I can ask is, how often do you clean your atomizers? I clean mine once a week with alcohol. I have only had one atty die at 6 weeks, but this was just after I started using 5v, and I may have been a little hard on that particular atty from the excitement, LOL.
 

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Sorry, I can't offer much help. The only thing that I can ask is, how often do you clean your atomizers? I clean mine once a week with alcohol. I have only had one atty die at 6 weeks, but this was just after I started using 5v, and I may have been a little hard on that particular atty from the excitement, LOL.

The first 510 that died I didn't clean at all and the other 3 510 atomizers I would clean every 2 to 7 days with a syringe and hot water. I used the 306 on my other pv for two days and after using it on the feedimus for less than an hour it died. I tried to revive the 306 by soaking it in efferdent but that really didn't do much.


You should ask this question in fono's forum. I am quite sure he would be willing to help in any way possible.

I don't think my feedimus was made by fono. I bought it about 5 weeks ago from nhaler.
 

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I don't think my feedimus was made by fono. I bought it about 5 weeks ago from nhaler.

I think you have to have 5 posts to post there, but when you have 5 posts, just make a few more replies, not fake ones though, then you can go to the Nhaler section and ask there. The 5 post rule helps to get rid of spammers, etc so it's a necessary little inconvenience.
 

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After the last atomizer died I noticed that the spring that holds the battery had become completely compressed(I had to decompress the spring with my fingers) and part of the spring had changed color from silver to blue.

The spring is heating up - that's both the color change and the loss of tension. As the metal heats, it "forgets" its old shape and "remembers" the new shape. You're feeding too much power through it, more than it was designed for.
 

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Yeah, if you got it from Drew, then you should e-mail him about what is going on. Not a phono fix. I am sure Drew would be more than happy to help you out.
Wish I had more info on what was going on to help. E-mail Drew and see what he says. If he doesn't have an answer-shoot phono an e-mail and see if he might have some sort of insight. Just be sure to let him know that you got it from nhaler and just looking for an answer as to what may be going on. Good luck.
 

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4 510 atomizers and one Lr 306 atomizer have died in the five or so weeks that I've had my Feedimus. Is there any way to check if the Feedimus is killing them? Could it be the battery? After the last atomizer died I noticed that the spring that holds the battery had become completely compressed(I had to decompress the spring with my fingers) and part of the spring had changed color from silver to blue. Btw, I'm using a protected aw 18650 2600mah battery.

If they are heating at all that should mean they're not open and you should be able to get them going. As an emergency measure, you might consider the E2 R4 from madvapes. I think they are going to prove to be pretty durable judging from some of the videos I've seen. Here's a good video on how to set one up it you decide to go that route. Start it at about 2:45.

YouTube - CE2 cartomiser mod

510 E2 R4 Cartomizers, 2.8-3.0 ohm, 5 pack
 

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I think you have to have 5 posts to post there, but when you have 5 posts, just make a few more replies, not fake ones though, then you can go to the Nhaler section and ask there. The 5 post rule helps to get rid of spammers, etc so it's a necessary little inconvenience.


Cool. Thanks.


Yeah, if you got it from Drew, then you should e-mail him about what is going on. Not a phono fix. I am sure Drew would be more than happy to help you out.
Wish I had more info on what was going on to help. E-mail Drew and see what he says. If he doesn't have an answer-shoot phono an e-mail and see if he might have some sort of insight. Just be sure to let him know that you got it from nhaler and just looking for an answer as to what may be going on. Good luck.


I'll do that once I'm allowed to post in other forums. Thanks for your help.




The spring is heating up - that's both the color change and the loss of tension. As the metal heats, it "forgets" its old shape and "remembers" the new shape. You're feeding too much power through it, more than it was designed for.

Am I using the wrong battery or do you mean that I'm holding the button down too long?



If they are heating at all that should mean they're not open and you should be able to get them going. As an emergency measure, you might consider the E2 R4 from Madvapes. I think they are going to prove to be pretty durable judging from some of the videos I've seen. Here's a good video on how to set one up it you decide to go that route. Start it at about 2:45.

YouTube - CE2 cartomiser mod

510 E2 R4 Cartomizers, 2.8-3.0 ohm, 5 pack

Looks pretty cool, but I'm not really interested in using cartomizers. Thanks anyway.
 

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The spring is heating up - that's both the color change and the loss of tension. As the metal heats, it "forgets" its old shape and "remembers" the new shape. You're feeding too much power through it, more than it was designed for.

+1 on this. Check to see if there's a dead short somewhere.
 

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JonnyVapΣ;2353607 said:
+1 on this. Check to see if there's a dead short somewhere.


I'm not really sure what a dead short is so I googled it and I don't think there is a dead short because the atomizers work well its just that they seem to be dieing really fast.




you didn't specify voltage for your mod, and I am not familiar with it; however LR atties often don't play well with mods, especially over 3.7v. May just need to go to a higher resistance atty.


I believe the feedimus vapes at 3.7v with the battery I am currently using so I think the LR 306 should work with it.




I was hoping there would be some device I could buy that would test how much power was being sent to the atomizers, but I guess there is no such device. Anyway, once I receive some more atomizers I think I will just drip into it instead of using the feed button(I still routinely either feed too much or too little juice into the atomizers). In all likely hood it's probably user error that is causing the atomizers to die so quickly. If dripping does not help, I think I'll just contact drew at nhaler to see if he can take a look at what's wrong with my feedimus. I'd like to thank all those who came into this thread in the hopes of trying to help me with my problem. This forum definitely has the best community of any forum I visit.
 

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For your battery spring to get hot enough to set itself in the collapsed position from battery pressure there's probably something else going on. To heat a tension spring like that it's taking a lot of current. I re-tension small engine carburetor springs with a torch, for example. Vape on it without the cover and see if you can find something getting hot, besides the atomizer (connector, switch, battery connectors, battery, etc.).
 

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JonnyVapΣ;2353893 said:
For your battery spring to get hot enough to set itself in the collapsed position from battery pressure there's probably something else going on. To heat a tension spring like that it's taking a lot of current. I re-tension small engine carburetor springs with a torch, for example. Vape on it without the cover and see if you can find something getting hot, besides the atomizer (connector, switch, battery connectors, battery, etc.).

Thanks for the advise. I'll definitely do that. Actually, could I pop on a dead atomizer press the vape button and see if the connector, switch, battery, etc. gets really hot? And could I burn or electrocute myself by doing this?
 

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It could be that you are just laying on the button tooooo long. A 306 is designed for quick, hot hits. You have to keep them wet, wet, wet. This has been my experience with the 306's.
I like to take longer hits and found that I practically was burning my bottom lip by taking the longer hit using the 306 atomizer. I do hope you get this figured out.
 

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It may not be anything to do with how long you're pushing the button, it could be that you've got cheap springs that shouldn't be used the way you're using them. OK, here's the deal:

Everything has some amount of resistance to electricity flowing through it. Some things (most metals) have a fairly low resistance - electricity can travel through it easily. But whenever you have resistance, some amount of the electricity flowing through turns into heat. If you force more electricity through metal than it can handle, the heat generated damages the metal. Heat damaged metal shows a color change, and it loses the temper of the metal.

A regular extension cord works great when you're using it to power a lamp. A lamp doesn't require much electricity. Take that same cord and use it to run your electric dryer, and you'll start a fire. You're pushing more electricity through the wire than it can handle, and that generates heat. Same thing with your spring. By using a higher voltage, higher current battery and combining it with a low resistance bridge, you're increasing the amount of power going through the spring to power the bridge. More than the spring can handle. Maybe that spring would be fine if you used a high resistance bridge. Maybe it would be fine if you used a lower power battery. But the combination you've got is too much for it. This assumes there are no shorts and everything is working the way it's supposed to.
 
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