how to fix - ordered incorrect ratio of pg/vg

[imind]

good evening all,

i erred horribly and ordered 5 samples of juice from ECblends, all at either 80pg/20vg or 70pg/30vg, meaning to get either 80vg/20pg or 70vg/30pg...i'm hating it!!!. i have previously only vaped 100% vg and was loving it, even with flavors i wasn't too fond of, the experience to me was much more pleasant: more and smoother vapor. i get almost no vapor from these...using dual coil 2.5 ohm cartomizer/tank.

is there anything i can cut these with that will make these juices more to my liking? i was thinking of just adding 100% flavorless vg but that is only going to eliminate the flavor almost entirely.

i've put in a ticket with ECblends to see what they recommend but also wanted to post here to see what other options available to me.

can i offer to sell these to anyone here or is that limited to the coop/classified section?

wow, i'm really bummed out...i was so excited for this order to arrive. now i'm back to the same old vanilla crap i've been buying at the brick and mortar near me for $1 milllion/ml, and another 10 days or so before another order from EC to arrive...

/vent

 

[Rickajho]

I can't think of a quick and dirty fix for this - the ratio is too far off for what you desire and adding enough plain VG will kill the flavor or the nic content and make it just as unpalatable. The only way to get any use out of it I can think of is to get those same flavors in high VG and mix some of this stuff into that to get the balance you want. That, or put it up for sale or a swap on ECF.

 

[darkhood]

add whatever mg nic u smoke flavorless vg base - http://www.ecigexpress.com/nicotine-bases-1mg-24mg-bases-c-43_49_100

 

[unloaded]

What flavors are they? I prefer the higher PG myself.

edit: If you like the flavors you might hang on to them for times when stealth vaping might be needed.

 

[CloudZ]

Get the highest vg you can of the same flavors and mix them. You might get a 50 50 out of it or a little better. Or try to sell what you bought, luckily high pg is the most widely used.


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[Caridwen]

The only thing you can really do is order the same thing in 100% VG and mix them. That way you won't dilute the flavor or nicotine strength.

edit: Sorry, didn't see CloudZ's reply. What he said.

 

[imind]

thanks to all teh replies, much appreciated...
ecblends highest concentration of vg is 60/40 vg/pg...the next highest option is 'reduced pg' described as "we will mix up your eliquid with your flavor selections, then the remainder of the base will be all VG". great! but what does this mean? Another description of 'reduced pg' they offer is "flavoring is pg based, if nicotine is selected it is added as vg based, and the remainder is filled with vg". ??? so will it be reduced flavor at reduced pg level? anyone had any experience with ecblends 'reduced pg'?

i'm thinking i can just order a sample size of each flavor i ordered at reduced pg level, adding extra flavor (though i do have the option of extra extra flavor) and be good but don't want to overdue it.

its not a terribly big deal...reviewing my invoice i only spent $10, but its 30ml of juice that i would hate to waste...

i ordered stephens surpise, dragon milk, dragon brew, dragon tear, white pear ala zoe, and dulce de leche...
unless i hear of a better option i am going to order another sample size of each at reduced pg level with a single extra flavor and report back my findings when delivered in case someone else should be so careless...

 

[Rickajho]

Ain't semantics fun? lol Some places call it "High VG". Other places call it 100% VG - with a big fat asterisk that says the base is 100 VG but the flavorings are PG. But "reduced PG"...? First time I've heard that one.

Whenever I have seen this come up there seem to be a couple "rules" about what is going on. For whatever reasons, VG can be used as the carrier for tobacco based flavors, but most non tobacco flavors come in a PG base. Most places I order VG from, the base liquid - including nicotine - is 100 VG. If the flavoring is PG based the places state that will represent 20% of the liquid being PG. One or two state the PG flavoring will bump the amount of PG in the mix up to 30%.

I haven't checked out the ecblends site, but it sounds like they are making this all overly complicated. Especially if you can pick 100 VG as the base, PG or VG separately somehow for the nic, and then warning you about what percentage PG will be added on top of that from the flavorings. The only way you will know for certain is to ask them.

 

[imind]

Ain't semantics fun? lol Some places call it "High VG". Other places call it 100% VG - with a big fat asterisk that says the base is 100 VG but the flavorings are PG. But "reduced PG"...? First time I've heard that one.

Whenever I have seen this come up there seem to be a couple "rules" about what is going on. For whatever reasons, VG can be used as the carrier for tobacco based flavors, but most non tobacco flavors come in a PG base. Most places I order VG from, the base liquid - including nicotine - is 100 VG. If the flavoring is PG based the places state that will represent 20% of the liquid being PG. One or two state the PG flavoring will bump the amount of PG in the mix up to 30%.

I haven't checked out the ecblends site, but it sounds like they are making this all overly complicated. Especially if you can pick 100 VG as the base, PG or VG separately somehow for the nic, and then warning you about what percentage PG will be added on top of that from the flavorings. The only way you will know for certain is to ask them.

yeah, i hear ya...unfortunately they don't appear to have a simple email to forward questions to...its more like a helpdesk where you have to submit a ticket...based on how well they've described it on their website already, i don't know that i am looking forward to their response...btw, and not to derail my own thread but i lived in boston for 5 years...miss it terribly...were you around in the days of the tar bar? i used to work at flap top johnny's in kendall square...some of the best times of my life...

 

[Rickajho]

Derail away! I've been here since 1993, bust mostly on the Roxbury/Jamaica Plain side of things. Drawing a complete blank on both those bars. I do miss the Rathskellar in Kenmore Square.

 

[unloaded]

You're not going to get a cut and dry answer because there isn't one. It sounds like the flavorings are PG and the juices use different percentages of total flavoring. If a juice had 20% flavoring in it the best you'll get would be a 20/80 mix. They'd have to use a VG nic and VG base. They might not be willing to go that far because it would probably change the taste of the juice too much. It's a balancing act between giving the customer what they want and keeping the juice consistant. Also adding the flavor shot will increase the PG so you might be chasing your tail going that route.

 

[imind]

Also adding the flavor shot will increase the PG so you might be chasing your tail going that route.

yeah so the question is, what percentage will that extra shot going to be? going to be bothering the folks at ecblends for a while, i'm afraid.

Derail away! I've been here since 1993, bust mostly on the Roxbury/Jamaica Plain side of things. Drawing a complete blank on both those bars. I do miss the Rathskellar in Kenmore Square.

i moved there in 94-95 and remember the rathskellar...great place to see a band...and i put a year in jamaica plain! sheridan street, the brendan beehan still there? and what was it, luna pizza? still one of my favorite pizzas! you should go to kendall square in cambridge and stop into flat top johnny's...its a pool hall and is co-owned by the cambridge brewing company next door...i'm not particularly fond of pumpkin ale but could drink their's all day.


edited to add: no, it was bella luna, bella luna!! ha!