Howdy, new and need a little guidance.

[Sponge]

First off I want to say I've been smoke free for going on 2 weeks and haven't felt better, lots of places (here specifically) helped me get to this point so thanks a ton!

With that being said, I've got a few questions about nicotine content in my juice and TH/flavor. Basically I picked up some prefilled carts and the place I ordered from threw a handful in there also and I thought I had a flavor or two nailed down for the long haul. The prefilled were 8mg and 11mg but I felt like I blew through them so I figured I'd pick up a few blanks and some stronger juice (18mg to be exact).

Well this stuff tastes like pain. Smells good, smells just like the prefilled did, but to puff on this is burning my throat/nose up and it almost choking me at anything more than a primer puff. I talked to the vendor and they said it's the same juice used in the prefilled carts I liked so something isn't adding up.

I guess I'm confused about what happened here, would the higher nicotine content cause this massive throat hit I wasn't getting before, could it be the carts, or could something else be amiss here? I tried 3 of the blank carts to make sure it was the juice, and sure enough it appears to be the juice. The vendor was nice enough to credit me for it and allow me to replace it but before thinking I just ordered the same stuff. It will be here tomorrow so I'll know for sure then I suppose but I need a little guidance here.

If it matters, the flavor in question is 555 and Clove. Both in lower prefilled carts were perfect, my refills are kicking my face in though.

Help?

 

[keyzygirl]

Higher nic will increase TH and change the flavor a bit.Plus you have to make sure those carts are full,if not you will get burning and that tastes bad and burns your throat.

 

[Sponge]

That's the best I could figure happened, I soaked them down pretty well and after the first one filled another to soak, then hit it with another drop or two to make sure maybe the new ones didn't need a little more to start.

So the next question, would mixing this with some 0mg or lower and cutting the nic down be the way around this?

Thanks for the info, damn ya'll are fast

 

[keyzygirl]

Yup,you could try mixing it,it would lower the nic.That should decrease the TH a bit too.

 

[Sponge]

Right on! Thanks again for the help and quick reply, you rock.

 

[dormouse]

Nicotine is a skin irritant and there a a big difference between 18mg and 11mg, especially on Vapor4Life because KR808D-1 models have a nice warm hit. I know - I started at 18mg, then 11mg, now 4mg.

You could try buying both 11mg and 18mg of the juice and mix equal amounts to get somewhere in the middle?

You could buy blank Boge standard resistance cartos or the Vapor4Life blank Coolcarts and fill them yourself with either the 11+18 blend or with juices from elsewhere.

Another idea - vape the harsh flavors in 11mg and get try a less harsh flavor like WOW Vanilla with the 18mg?

 

[Sponge]

Wow you nailed it. I love my Vapor King, and Vapor4Life has been excellent to deal with. Gonna feel bad if I ended up with another bottle from them for no other reason than I'm a newb.

The 555 I had the best luck with was indeed the cool carts 8mg. The Clove I got was in 11mg and was awesome. Guess more isn't always better huh? I've got some more blanks on the way from Vapor4Life and the originals I tried were CigEasy (heard good things). Was worried maybe I wouldn't be able to tame the blanks down I had already used so wanted some backups.

Well I was wondering how long it would be before I got all mad scientist on this stuff, figure maybe this is a blessing in disguise. The more you know and all that...

Now something I did notice, I picked up some of the RazzWOW in 18mg and while the TH is there, it's not nearly as severe as the Clove/555 so I agree with the softer flavors in higher concentrations. I think I could deal with the TH if the flavor was at least there, and it is with the Clove, but the 555 just hurts for lack of a better description.

I really appreciate the info, any recommendations to find info on mixing/matching this and such? Surely you don't just do it in the cart right?

 

[dormouse]

Yeah the 11mg was the clue - most places sell 10 or 12.

Clove is a strong spicy flavor. Some flavors have their own throat sensation to add to the nicotine hit.
In general, the V4L WOW flavors are also have more flavoring in them than the other flavors

If you have a bottle of 18mg clove, you could just buy a bottle of 0mg and use it to mix and try various nicotine strengths of the Clove. Many places sell empty juice bottles - the ones at FreedomSmokeUSA are nice. You can pop the dropper top out of a bottle by sort of pressing sideways a bit and pulling (I use a tissue to grip it). The Vapor4Life 30ml bottles squeeze out just pretty quick so I usually just pop the dropper on the empty bottle then eyeball the proportions I put in of each. I'm using 0mh WOWbacco to cut down my old 11mg (I've been dropping my nicotine and unfortunately losing my TH in the process)

Equal parts of 18mg and 0mg would make 9mg
2 parts 18 and 1 part 0 make 2/3 of 18 or about 12mg
3 parts 18 and 1 part 0 make 3/4 of 18 or about 13.5
etc

But if you know you want something between 11 and 18, it would probably waste less juice to mix 11 and 18.

 

[swedishfish]

If it still tastes a bit harsh to you even when you lower the nicotine level, you could add a couple drops of coffee or vanilla juice to it to smooth it out a little.

 

[Sponge]

Sweet, yeah the Clove is good just burning me up a bit, it's the 555 I hope I can get lined out, that nutty taste is great. I got a coffee sampler swedishfish and really liked it, didn't think about the vanilla though. May have to give that a shot.

Thanks again for the info, gonna do some spending and see what I can come up with and I'll let ya know how it goes.

 

[Sponge]

Just wanted to update this and say it was successful. Cutting the 18mg with a 0mg fixed my burning 100%! Going to play around with the amounts a bit just because I have enough spare to play with, but I think 50/50 is a good start.

Also swedishfish, the 555 from FreedomSmokeUSA has more of a vanilla tone to it than nutty, not totally what you meant by that but after hitting it a few times you're spot on about that flavor.

Thanks again everyone.

 

[kornesque]

I've been switching between an 8mg tobacco flavored 80/20 PG/VG blend, and 36mg hazelnut 80/20 blend, and my first few hits seem rough with the high nic stuff. I enjoy the heck out of it though, and it feels better in little time.

I'm glad you found your solution...until I started with the lower nic blend, I though the PG was the cause of my ridiculous TH.

 

[Sponge]

Yeah honestly I didn't realize the higher nic would cause that, and certainly not that severe. I think I was getting used to it as I used it waiting for my 0mg to show up, TH wise, but the flavor was just so off I wouldn't have been able to keep it up for much longer. It was good enough to keep me off analogs

 

[Bunker Boy]

Higher nic will increase TH...

I've been wondering about this, and now I've found the answer. Thanks!