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Anthony Bocz

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Hello vapers! I'm new to the vaping community, I smoked a few of my friends mechanical mod and got hooked, hoping to quit smoking analog cigarettes currently, this seems to be doing the trick!
Just a few questions, as in what is the weak point of my build or do you guys have any suggestions for my build?
Got a good deal on this from a buddy
Authentic 4nine mod
Igo-w rda
Unknown drip tip
Nano dragon dual coil, I believe my friend wired it for somewhere around 0.8-1 ohm
Efest 18650 35a 2500mah battery
 

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Hello vapers! I'm new to the vaping community, I smoked a few of my friends mechanical mod and got hooked, hoping to quit smoking analog cigarettes currently, this seems to be doing the trick!
Just a few questions, as in what is the weak point of my build or do you guys have any suggestions for my build?
Got a good deal on this from a buddy
Authentic 4nine mod
Igo-w rda
Unknown drip tip
Nano dragon dual coil, I believe my friend wired it for somewhere around 0.8-1 ohm
Efest 18650 35a 2500mah battery

That battery's good for anything down to .3 ohms I believe. You may want a second one so you don't light up an analog during the charge time. If you intend to continue using that setup, buy a secondary APV regulated device that reads ohms (MVP 2 on the cheap end) or an ohm meter. You'll also want some kanthal wire, tweezers, a lighter/torch and some drillbits of varying diameters. For your wick, you can either use silica or organic cotton balls. You probably have a pair of scissors lying around to cut the wire with.

Some links to help with rebuilding:
Battery mAh & C Rating = amp Calculator
Ohm's Law Calculator

In order to be safe with your batteries, you want your battery's drain with your build to be within the amp limit. If it goes over it has the risk of catastrophic failure, AKA exploding.

If you want to try a decent build with that setup, try 28 gauge kanthal wire wrapped 6 times around a 1/16th drillbit. Two of these coils clock in at .7 ohms and they hit hard. I'm pretty happy with microcoils, but I love doing crazy builds too. :vapor:
 

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Hello vapers! I'm new to the vaping community, I smoked a few of my friends mechanical mod and got hooked, hoping to quit smoking analog cigarettes currently, this seems to be doing the trick!
Just a few questions, as in what is the weak point of my build or do you guys have any suggestions for my build?
Got a good deal on this from a buddy
Authentic 4nine mod
Igo-w rda
Unknown drip tip
Nano dragon dual coil, I believe my friend wired it for somewhere around 0.8-1 ohm
Efest 18650 35a 2500mah battery

You should start with a regulated mod;
The most highly recommended battery mod is the mvp2;
the e-lvt is also worth considering- it uses a replaceable 18650 battery.

30 gauge kanthal. 20 ft or 100ft roll.
You can move up to 28 gauge later.
Stay over 1 ohm for your first few coils.


With the regulated mod you will have a screen and be able to check volts and ohms.
Once you settle in to a pattern you won't need the screeen anymore, and at that point you start using your mech mod.

I recommend getting a mech that can be assembled to take both an 18650 battery and a kick module.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html
 

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You should start with a regulated mod;
The most highly recommended battery mod is the mvp2;
the e-lvt is also worth considering- it uses a replaceable 18650 battery.

30 gauge kanthal. 20 ft or 100ft roll.
You can move up to 28 gauge later.
Stay over 1 ohm for your first few coils.


With the regulated mod you will have a screen and be able to check volts and ohms.
Once you settle in to a pattern you won't need the screeen anymore, and at that point you start using your mech mod.

I recommend getting a mech that can be assembled to take both an 18650 battery and a kick module.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html

Psh, don't listen to this guy. I started with a mech and I haven't lost a finger... Yet. ;)
 

Anthony Bocz

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Thank you guys for the quick replies, as for sub ohm vaping igw already read into the hazards of that, I work on helicopter avionics so I'm quite familiar with ohms law and know not to draw more amps than the battery is rated for, I won't even get close to it.

As far as the tanks go, I've been interested in them, just so I don't have to carry around juice with me everywhere
Is there any disadvantages to a tank vs dropping?

Also,I have 2 batteries for when one starts running low
 

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Tanks mute the flavor. But you can get tanks that mute it way less than a clearo. In order from least flavor to most: Carto tank (easy, no building, and tasty. Always a good back up if you don't want to build. Plus, cartomizers are pretty cheap), Kayfun (tastes great, easy to build, almost never leaks, it's a carto tank on steroids), Geniuses style (pain to get working right with the wire mesh, but you can use cotton for an "auto dripper" leaks like crazy).
Another newer one is the 3D atomizer. I don't have one, but it looks like a cool idea. You build a coil on a dripper, and it has a spring activated tank.
 

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Thank you guys for the quick replies, as for sub ohm vaping igw already read into the hazards of that, I work on helicopter avionics so I'm quite familiar with ohms law and know not to draw more amps than the battery is rated for, I won't even get close to it.

As far as the tanks go, I've been interested in them, just so I don't have to carry around juice with me everywhere
Is there any disadvantages to a tank vs dropping?

Also,I have 2 batteries for when one starts running low

Good that you know about ohm's law and have two batteries. Every tank I've used doesn't even compare to dripping. I get more flavour and a harder hitting much more satisfying vape, though that's probably because of my coil build. With dripping you pretty much have to carry around a bottle of juice everywhere, but with a tank you can just fill it up and not worry about it until it's empty. That's about it.
 

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Thank you guys for the quick replies, as for sub ohm vaping igw already read into the hazards of that, I work on helicopter avionics so I'm quite familiar with ohms law and know not to draw more amps than the battery is rated for, I won't even get close to it.

As far as the tanks go, I've been interested in them, just so I don't have to carry around juice with me everywhere
Is there any disadvantages to a tank vs dropping?

Also,I have 2 batteries for when one starts running low

With dripping its like driving a manual transmission car; you change gears yourself; you wet the wick yourself if it needs it.

With a tank, you are depending on the tank design to have the right wicking; to wick fast enough but yet not flood the coil, and not get dry.

The alternative is the bottom feeder like the REO; instead of dripping from the top, your drip bottle is below, in a box, and you squonk the box.
There's another one called.... vmod; again bottle at the bottom, and to drip you just turn it upside down.
With both of these you need a driper with a hole for the bottom feed.
 
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Looks like I'll stick with dripping in that case, the 3d atomizer sounds pretty nifty though, I'll have to look into that.

As far as rdas go, would you recommend moving up to something better? Or will it not be much of a difference?

Honestly they're pretty subjective. It's pretty much what you're looking for in an RDA. For me, the IGO-W is low-cost and amazing. Three posts is more than enough for me. If you wanted a 4 post atomizer that makes it even easier to build on, there's the IGO-M. Some atomizers have a deeper juicewell, like the Magma. You can probably put 30-40 drops in it and not have it leak.
 

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Thank you guys for the quick replies, as for sub ohm vaping igw already read into the hazards of that, I work on helicopter avionics so I'm quite familiar with ohms law and know not to draw more amps than the battery is rated for, I won't even get close to it.

As far as the tanks go, I've been interested in them, just so I don't have to carry around juice with me everywhere
Is there any disadvantages to a tank vs dropping?

Also,I have 2 batteries for when one starts running low

quick rundown...

I prefer new vapers to start on regulated mods, but if you're familliar with ohms law, then use it. Check out ohms law calculator for a quick reference to what's safe. your 35a Efests are rewraps from another brand. The true specifications of those batteries are 20a maximum continual discharge rate, 35a max for burst rate. Go by the continual discharge rate, since there will be a time when your mech is firing without you knowing. Overheating a lithium battery can cause it to erupt violently... AKA "vent".

Advantages of a tank are, you don't have to keep dripping all the time, very convienent, able to mix flavors easier, and it's quicker to vape.

Disadvantages of a tank are: plastic can crack on citrus (and some others) flavors, not the same control as a dripper, so if you're sub-ohming, you'll get better results by dripping, and the tank can leak when improperly handled or setup. Leaving a tank in a hot car will cause it to leak, not setting it up right can cause it to either leak, or cause it not to saturate the wick enough and cause dry hits. Wtih drippers, it's all up to you to control juice supply.

I do suggest a tank system. I do NOT advise dripping and driving. There's a place for both for me, but %90 of the time, I'm using a tank. One tank I'd recommend is a Fogger V4 for single coil, I'd recommend a Kayfun, but the only downside is it has a plastic tank.

My last suggestion is to get a second mod. I'd get one for tanks, and the other for dripping. Makes life easier.
 

Anthony Bocz

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Okay, so if I'm looking at new rdas I need to make sure they're 510 threaded and the connection is adjustable since the atomizer makes direct contact with battery in the 4nine?

And also, is the main difference between rdas just number of post, well size, and looks?
Certain ones don't hit smoother or harder than others?

As for the two mods for driving, having one with a tank for driving, I was actually thinking about that already as I drive quite a bit. As for day to day it sounds like dripping is better for me though.

So for the next mod, with the tank, I'm a bit confused about the difference between atomizers, cartomizers, and tanks, as in what all would I need to complete a mod besides the mod and a battery?
 
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Looks like I'll stick with dripping in that case, the 3d atomizer sounds pretty nifty though, I'll have to look into that.

As far as rdas go, would you recommend moving up to something better? Or will it not be much of a difference?

The 3d and the nemesis would be a great combination; take the bottom piece off the 3d and take the top piece off the nemesis and screw the 3d directly onto the nemesis; the 3d was made by atmomaxi to work directly on the nemesis that way, totally doing away with problems of the 510 connector; it's called hybrid mode.

If you get the full nemesis with all the tubes you will have room to use regular 18650 battery plus a kick optionally.
 

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Hello vapers! I'm new to the vaping community, I smoked a few of my friends mechanical mod and got hooked, hoping to quit smoking analog cigarettes currently, this seems to be doing the trick!
Just a few questions, as in what is the weak point of my build or do you guys have any suggestions for my build?
Got a good deal on this from a buddy
Authentic 4nine mod
Igo-w rda
Unknown drip tip
Nano dragon dual coil, I believe my friend wired it for somewhere around 0.8-1 ohm
Efest 18650 35a 2500mah battery

Yeah dude to answer your question- it's a great setup.
On the further issue, I would never advises anything like that for a new vapor.
High power and subohming for a new vapor can end badly. I would definite suggest you do a bit of research on subohming safely and battery safety.
But congrats on the mod and making the switch
 

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Okay, so if I'm looking at new rdas I need to make sure they're 510 threaded and the connection is adjustable since the atomizer makes direct contact with battery in the 4nine?

And also, is the main difference between rdas just number of post, well size, and looks?
Certain ones don't hit smoother or harder than others?

As for the two mods for driving, having one with a tank for driving, I was actually thinking about that already as I drive quite a bit. As for day to day it sounds like dripping is better for me though.

So for the next mod, with the tank, I'm a bit confused about the difference between atomizers, cartomizers, and tanks, as in what all would I need to complete a mod besides the mod and a battery?

I'm curious with what you ended up with.

For myself - in your situation, I advise you taking a close look at REO's. They are tough and you don't need to be dragging a bottle of juice with you yet you still get full flavor.
 
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