Hubby got one today

[djsvapour]

My wife smokes lights (not ultra). She uses 18mg in a disposable CE4/eSmart when she vapes. However, she vapes 70% VG (diluted down by someone we know).
Then she smokes again, because she doesn't feel satisfied.

With that level of kit, 12mg is not crazy.
Vapor is harsh to the new user. I coughed on 18mg, got frighteningly dry mouth and doused my throat with iced sodas.

..best not to jump to conclusions too soon. Learning how to inhale (in a way that allows vaping without coughing) is the #1 priority. Having seen a lot of people try vaping for the first time; I do know that holding it to the lips, taking the tinniest puff as if you've been dared to vape some scary substance and sucking in 'straight down' often fails.

 

[fitzinthewindow]

I am just curious: why are you asking all of the questions, you signed up on the forum, you do the research, and you make the decisions? It's he who is trying to quit smoking--isn't it important the he do the work and make the decisions?

 

[Marina2]

I am just curious: why are you asking all of the questions, you signed up on the forum, you do the research, and you make the decisions? It's he who is trying to quit smoking--isn't it important the he do the work and make the decisions?

The important thing is whether he wants to quit smoking or not. If he welcomes her support and encouragement, makes use of the research she does and trusts the decisions she makes then he'll most likely succeed. If he doesn't want to quit then nothing she does will help.

She's leading him to the water, the important thing is whether he drinks. How he gets there shouldn't matter, should it? As long as he arrives.

 

[AndriaD]

Ultralight cigarettes are not lower in nicotine. Just lower in flavor.

If he was sub ohming I would agree with you. Since he is not sub ohming. 12 mg is probably right.

They certainly are lower in nicotine!!! That's exactly why anything over 6mg made me sick as a goat!

I think you mean, they're not lower in TAR.

Andria

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I don't know why, but for as long as I can remember I never did lung hits. That is where things get hot. I inhale to the mouth, hold for a second or two and slowly out the nose. The mouth does "ingest" nicotine and the nose hairs grab those little vapor bubbles for more intake. Never be a cloud maker, but than my interest was just in getting off cigs...and flavor.

I noticed that I can vape about any level of nicotine. If it is too strong, I take a draw and then take another 8 hours later. If it is to weak of a nicotine concentration, I use duct tape to connect the mod drip tip directly to my mouth. I suggest just going by urges.

Also, the majority, and they are quieter here, vape less than 20 watts. I am currently vaping at 1 Ohm of resistance and at 3.7volts (middle of battery strength) it is just about 13 watts.

A simple, plain 30 watt mod with a 1.0 or above coil is all you need.

 

[AndriaD]

Andria the ejuice is 67% PG and 33% VG. I'm surprised he was able to take a drag at all.

The very first one I was able to vape regularly was 85% PG... and I do better if I stay with that or even more PG (86-87%). Just because PG isn't for you, doesn't mean that other people react just the same. (in fact, the only time I've tried that much VG, it nearly sent me to the hospital, I became so unable to breathe)

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

They certainly are lower in nicotine!!! That's exactly why anything over 6mg made me sick as a goat!

I think you mean, they're not lower in TAR.

Andria

The information I read disputes that.

One of us is obviously wrong. I will do more research.

 

[Marina2]

I did pretty good with an Istick 30 watt and a Nautilus Mini in the beginning. My first vape (the one I had when getting used to vapor) was a Vuse cig-a-like. You should have seen me cough with that the first night! Thing is, I was out of cigs and made myself use it rather than go to the store for cigarettes so late at night. By the third night I was puffing on that like I'd been doing it forever, no more coughing! I used it for about three weeks; long enough to come here, learn and put in an order for something else. Oh man, when I got that Istick and Nautilus, I was in heaven. I couldn't believe the difference a decent setup made. My juice was 50/50, 18mg.

Anyway, I think I digressed... maybe not.

Just wanted to put in a recommendation for that tank and battery. It's probably the most recommended set up for beginners on this forum. And, not just for beginners, I still use mine frequently. The airflow is adjustable from mouth to lung on to a (somewhat restricted) direct lung inhale. All the Istick models are reasonably priced. A small investment for a setup that'll see you through for quite awhile.

 

[djsvapour]

My first vape (the one I had when getting used to vapor) was a Vuse cig-a-like. You should have seen me cough with that the first night! Thing is, I was out of cigs and made myself use it rather than go to the store for cigarettes so late at night. By the third night I was puffing on that like I'd been doing it forever, no more coughing! I used it for about three weeks; long enough to come here, learn and put in an order for something else. Oh man, when I got that Istick and Nautilus, I was in heaven. I couldn't believe the difference a decent setup made. My juice was 50/50, 18mg.

Agreed!

This is my point as well. My first e-cig was a 24mg cig-a-like. I thought it was the answer to my smoking (I wanted to stop) so went back to the shop and emptied the shelves of this product.

A few days later, I'd got used to it. A few days after that I realized it wasn't providing much nicotine (I was moody and depressed).

So, I switched brands. That was just as useless. After $800 I found an internet forum. SAVED!

 

[AndriaD]

The information I read disputes that.

One of us is obviously wrong. I will do more research.

Check this link -- Nicotine, Tar, and CO Content of Regular Cigarette Brands in 2007

The Virginia Slims ultra-light 120s that I smoked had only ".5" -- I think that's percentage -- so one cigarette had roughly 5mg of nicotine. Many brands have a GREAT deal more!!!!

Andria

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I did pretty good with an Istick 30 watt and a Nautilus Mini in the beginning. My first vape (the one I had when getting used to vapor) was a Vuse cig-a-like. You should have seen me cough with that the first night! Thing is, I was out of cigs and made myself use it rather than go to the store for cigarettes so late at night. By the third night I was puffing on that like I'd been doing it forever, no more coughing! I used it for about three weeks; long enough to come here, learn and put in an order for something else. Oh man, when I got that Istick and Nautilus, I was in heaven. I couldn't believe the difference a decent setup made. My juice was 50/50, 18mg.

Anyway, I think I digressed... maybe not.

Just wanted to put in a recommendation for that tank and battery. It's probably the most recommended set up for beginners on this forum. And, not just for beginners, I still use mine frequently. The airflow is adjustable from mouth to lung on to a (somewhat restricted) direct lung inhale. All the Istick models are reasonably priced. A small investment for a setup that'll see you through for quite awhile.

Digressed?, no, you are a success! It IS turbulent and takes some conviction. For me, once I determined my nic requirement level, I was good to go. I didn't care about anything else. I started at 24mg and am now at 3mg. A smooth and tasty slide.

 

[Dipper926]

That's an eGo style battery with a CE4 clearomizer. I used those at one point. The higher PG level was necessary for me to get it to wick right. I preferred the atomizer (the part with the heating element and wick) at the bottom of the clearomizer, which provides better wicking.

The harshness may be part of how he's trying to use it ... the direct inhale, like he would a cigarette, can be difficult when switching. Maybe try to pull the vapor into the mouth then inhale to the lungs (called mouth-to-lung or MTL.)

ETA: google glassomizer and/or Aspire BVC to see what I used immediately after the setup your hubby has.

I started with an evod clone kit. $30. Waste of money. The actual Kangers were decent for me at the time. Went to the Smok GBC and an MVP 20w.


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[Dipper926]

I was a pack-a-day ultra-light smoker and used 24mg for the first 18 months. Let's not make assumptions unless he's got symptoms indicating too much nic.

5 cigs a day. Vaping 12.5w at 18mg 80pg "harbor menthol" was my quiting tool

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[Dipper926]

Another thing you can Try.

Many Vape Shops have Free Samples that you can walk in a Try. Not sure how many Vape Shops you have in your Area. But After the Holidays, you might call some Shops and see if they offer Sampling.

In my area, a lot of the vape shops are cloud chasers, and from when I quit, to now, I can tell the older shops are fed up with helping people on vaping. Granted I haven't used a beginner vape in a while, but it makes me happy seeing this community continue here as it does. Even if there are disagreements.

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[glointhedark]

When my daughter and I started vaping, we used cigalikes with cartos. Higher pg levels were just fine for us. We both used eliquids or prefilled cartos with 18 mg nicotine and anywhere from 100% to 65% pg and had no problems with harshness, etc. We used the cigalikes for about a year before we moved on.

When we switched from cigalikes to Kanger Evods, we had problems with harshness. We decided to try lowering the pg in our eliquids before we played with the nicotine level. With our first order of 50 pg/50 vg eliquid, we knew we had solved the problem. Anything above 50% pg in the Evods is much too harsh for us.

 

[Grimwald]

A suggestion. Go to Walmart and buy some Glycerin. It comes in a 6 oz. bottle near the pharmacy...around the isopropyl alcohol. Cost less than $4. (you might also look for a small baby syringe so you can make small measurements) Take a small amount of your liquid and add an equal amount of the vg (glycerin). This will cause 3 things.

1. your nic level will be cut from 12mg to 6mg.
2. the pg/vg ratio will change to approx 33%pg 67%vg.
3. the flavor will be muted.