I am having a dreadful time

[zoiDman]

As you can see, I have been a member on this forum since back in 2009. ...

Mike...

I think you hold the ECF Record for Oldest Member with less that 10 Posts !!!

Seriously though.

I had a heck of a time when I tried to quit. Just Climbed the walls. Was about to chuck e-Cigs in the trash until I came here and saw a post about someone trying 36mg for the first 2 weeks.

I was using 24mg because that is what people considered "High" Nicotine. As a PAD Smoker I thought that's were I should be.

So I looked aroud and found some 36mg Caramel. Figured if it didn't work, it might as well taste good. Every tobacco I tried Tasted "Fake" or down right Nasty.

It did work and it didn't taste too bad. I used 36mg for about 3 weeks and then dropped back down to 24mg.

If your at the end of the Road, which it sounds like you are, try going to 36mg and choose a Flavor that you think you might like.

Best of luck.

 

[Hunters Friend]

One thing I haven't seen, is HOW you hit an ecig. It is not a direct inhale. Pull it into your mouth, wait a second, inhale, and exhale out your nose. As I understand that will get the most nic absorbed. Unlike a cig, your mouth and nasal passages will absorb more with vaping.

You may be right, it could be in part to the way I am inhaling. I have had a VV BTW. I would puff on them either until the light came on or I could get vapor flowing. Once I get it into my lungs as I exhale it out, the closest sensation I can point to would be if you took a black plastic yard garbage bag and held it up to your nose right after you pull it from the box.

I have no idea if that makes any sense and I can imagine people saying to themselves "No, I don't rightly recall ever sniffing the plastic bag from the box..."

But, it is a distinct plastiky taste to me. Not the rich flavorful tobacco I get from a cigarette, i.e. Marlboro, Winston, etc.

I know there was a time in my life I didn't use them. Hell, I was on the wrestling team, track, football etc. and didn't smoke then. But the moment I started I fell in love, bad love and like an abusive relationship I need to get out before it finally does me in.

One other thing, a previous poster mentioned hypnosis. So honestly, is that even worth the time? If so, why hasn't the nation basically kicked the habit after all these years with all the hypnotists around? Not judging, but sceptical. Mainly of their $150 price and no guarantees.

 

[Spazmelda]

Honestly, money is not the problem. I need something that I am not constantly running back and forth to fill with new drops, will last longer than an hour on a charge (would be incredible if there was a system that you just laid the battery on and it induced the charge rather than turn turn turn turn, unturn unturn unturn unturn, then re-turn re-turn re-turn re-turn)

It really does sound like you'd be happier with something that has a removable battery and probably variable voltage. I've got a provari, and 5 18650 batteries I keep in rotation. The batteries just pop into the charger, no screwing or unscrewing, and it charges 2 at a time. I always have at least 3 batteries ready to go. It really is a lot easier than constantly threading up an ego type battery every time you need to charge. A lava tube would be similar.

 

[Miira]

I'm new and these guys gave better advice than what I would have come up with, but you get an A for effort. I would have chucked them all out the window in frustration before even the first year was up.

 

[Racehorse]

Suggestion 3: Try hypnosis.

I was just going to post that. Besides upping the nicotine.

I think it is BOTH psychological and physical for the OP, (as it was for all of us), but if there is still some part of you that loves smoking analogs, your subconscious will come into play. I have noticed that if I have a subconscious desire for something, even though consciously I *say* I don't want it, then my subconscious desire often rules the roost.

Hypnosis can help with this, so can a good acupunturist. I know someone who used Aricular therapy acupunture and it worked wonders.

Hunter, I also really like your convention idea. First, you will be helping others by introducing the best that vaping has to offer. Secondly, you need a really good support system. I think this will provide those things.

I think you have to hit this from as many directions as you can, but in the end, your mind has to go along with the program in order to succeed.

And, don't worry about your past failures. All it takes is the ONE time you do succeed, and that could be coming up any day now.

 

[Lickskitty]

Hello Mike I am sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time with craving the analogs when you try to quit by vaping. I have only been cig free for about 3 weeks. I would say 4 weeks however, for the first week I kept sneaking cigs. I found that using tobacco flavors at higher volts seemed to help my cravings very much. I still am having them though. I think this is because the juice I currently have isn't very good. As one of the other post said, have you tried using tobacco flavors that are WTA based. I read great things about them from people who had similar problems making the switch like you are experiencing. One thing I have noticed is that I feel like I am having to teach myself how to live/do daily things without smoking. I still have those times like when I wake up, get out of shower, finish eating, etc.. that I crave a cig. You have to retrain you mind into replacing that cig with whatever mod you like the best. I only have a vtube as of now so I make sure it is always close by. I really really hope you can get past the craving of the analogs. I currently have like 4 orders of tobacco samplers coming from different suppliers. I will let you know if any of them seem to scratch that analog itch. Best of luck!

 

[Torqueguy]

The only thing that worked for me was vaping at High Voltage. Mthe high temp of the vape combined with 24mg juicemtook the cravings away. 3.7v was like smoking a light cigarette and I was a Red smoker myself. On weekends and vacations I would smoke Lucky non filters as a gift to myself. Inhaled on cigars as well. Go HV if you haven't tried it. halo torque 56 juice is great stuff as well. i run is at 7.4v using stacked 18350 batteries

 

[Lickskitty]

One thing I forgot to mention. I also started with 24 mg strength and thought all the flavors tasted horrible. I contacted the supplier I made my mod order from and they told me it was because the nic level was to high. I was very hesitant to believe them because I smoke well over a pack a day for 15 years. So they sent me 12mg same flavor and the difference was night and day. The lower mg tasted so much better, granted I do have to hit it much more often. I dont mind that part though becuase I feel like I need to hit it all the time no matter what strength it is. If you get lower mg such as 12mg it will taste better and you can hit it much more often without feeling sick from too much nic. Taking a hit from my mod every few minutes seems to help my analog cravings. I also second the variable voltage idea it can help you adjust too your taste preference.

 

[Hunters Friend]

Again, thank you all. Your patience is very appreciated as well as your advice.

I keep reading similar ideas here that seem to speak of the lava tube. I have not tried that one out.

Also the 36 MG and WTA. Okay... why not...

Alternate flavors, I am open to anything and I mean anything.

I would guess between all the gadgets and gizmos I have bought over the years I have an easy grand wrapped up in it but honestly, in the end I only seek results.

Tonight on my drive home, I was so depressed that I had cleared out a carton of Marlboros in about 3 days and needed to hit the store before they closed just to get myself stocked up again. (Big problem here in Missouri - EVERYTHING is cheap, even cigarettes) In my drive over I just couldn't shake the thought that I have failed again and nothing will ever make it right. Then it occurred to me, I have read plenty here on the forum, but to be honest there is such an enormity of information it is overwhelming at times.

I am not giving up on this as I have little ones counting on me to at least try. (Plus a pretty awesome wife who is always supporting me as well)

Any directions/suggestions for vendors of LTs? WTAs? Vendors of the "good" tobacco juice?

Oh and I am even going to look into hypnotherapy tomorrow as well. Here in Missouri I think they call it 2x4 over the head counseling.

 

[kingvitaman]

Most everyone here I bet has had some sort of struggle swiching from regular cigs to ecigs my success was when I used cinnamon redhot flavored ejuice at 24mg I also made it with a little more PG than VG for more of a hit to the back of my throat. I also purchased a Lavatube with 3ohm cartos set at 5.2 volts it created a warmer vapor. Good luck don't give up and BTW My whole family loves Branson its not your Grandfather place anymore.

 

[evilferret]

Aroma Juice has WTA in stock.

Their menthol is pretty good.

Sorry, I can't help on the LT's.

Have you tried snus on the side? Just for those moments when you want to punch somebody for a cig.

 

[Hunters Friend]

Most everyone here I bet has had some sort of struggle swiching from regular cigs to ecigs my success was when I used cinnamon redhot flavored ejuice at 24mg I also made it with a little more PG than VG for more of a hit to the back of my throat. I also purchased a Lavatube with 3ohm cartos set at 5.2 volts it created a warmer vapor. Good luck don't give up and BTW My whole family loves Branson its not your Grandfather place anymore.

Hence, which sort of led me into my earlier idea of bringing a vapors convention to our place and let everyone try something out. Hell, I would give away the convention center for the day - week - whatever if it helped people find what they were looking for. VVs, LTs, Egos, WTAs (man there are more abbreviations here than when I was in the military...) LOL yeah, that is right, it ain't for grandma and grandpa only anymore. Sad, I miss the older crowd. Definitely a lot younger now.

Aroma Juice has WTA in stock.

Their menthol is pretty good.

Sorry, I can't help on the LT's.

Have you tried snus on the side? Just for those moments when you want to punch somebody for a cig.

No, I had never even heard of snus until tonight. I am guessing this is some sort of snuff in a pouch? Not really my thing, but I would definitely have it if it took the edge off.

Thanks again for the suggestions

 

[Miira]

Heather's Heavenly Vapes is a new supplier of tobacco extract juices that has been getting rave reviews over on the juice sub-forum.

 

[mwa102464]

I started with the 36mg for the first month or so too, then went to 24mg, the 36mg does the job man this is a must try for you.

 

[Hunters Friend]

It would just slay me if all of this ends up being because my nicotine juice was too weak

 

[Myk]

E-cigs have been the easiest way for me to quit smoking but that doesn't mean it was a simple switch.
In addition to many of the other good suggestions (higher nicotine, WTA) I get the impression that you want it to be an exact replacement that you instantly switch without thought.
Mornings were hell for me. To get over those hell times I vaped stronger nicotine. Later vaped my normal level like a freight train.

Recently I'm having a bad time with panic, which is the reason I picked up cigarettes a while back after 2 years without. It was the worst cravings to smoke I've had in the whole 3 months I've been without. I simply fought off the desire to grab a cigarette and vaped instead.

Even when I used a pipe to quit cigarettes for those 2 years the first few weeks were terrible. I was getting everything one would get from burning tobacco. There is something about cigarettes that is special. You have to fight off the urge long enough to get over it.

 

[bnrkwest]

I think you need an upgrade, at least and ego Twist, but maybe a Provari with some glass tanks, and WTA. Variable Voltage is where most all users end up at because it is such a better vape. I love vaping and will never go back to cigs, but I had some really bad cravings early on, I had to really get stern with myself and say, vape first, then see if you still want a cig. Since I was getting the nicotine, I didn't need a cig, but the cravings were really strong for me. I just feel so much better vaping, my lungs are happy LOL I wish you luck and I really love the idea of a vapers convention, what fun! bnrk

 

[bnrkwest]

One other thing, a previous poster mentioned hypnosis. So honestly, is that even worth the time? If so, why hasn't the nation basically kicked the habit after all these years with all the hypnotists around? Not judging, but sceptical. Mainly of their $150 price and no guarantees.

Hypnosis does help, if your visual suggestion is your final goal. I was hypnotised to loose weight years ago, the suggestion I was given that when I craved some sweets or pastry etc, I would immediately see myself at my goal weight in a bathing suit and go grab a carrot instead The visual imagine is quite strong in hypnosis but you can over ride it. But for quitting smoking your visual suggestion could be to go vape every time you get a craving, and the vape is so satisfying you do not want an analog. That hypnotic suggestion could be enough to get you over the hump. You can also do self hypnosis and give yourself these visual suggestions as well. They do help! bnrk

 

[keenanmcfar]

Many wonderful suggestions here, but it seems to me the problem is more with your atomiser set up than with the juice or the pv. If money is no issue, you might want to look into genesis style rebuildable atomisers. They definitely have a learning curve but there is no possible way you can get aburnt plastic taste from them as they dont have anything to burn in them! This, in addition to the other things suggested should surely do the trick! good on ya for keeping at it.

 

[Yeanie]

I found Ego Twist and variable voltage atomizer to be salvation. And definitely recommend dripping. Love the flavors at Virgin Vapor.
I prefer vaping to smoking now...pretty weird. I really enjoy the flavors I vape.