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Wow, you're quite the decisive one, aren't you, lol.

I have 4 Twists, a Lavatube and a Vtube mini, and I find myself wanting to use the Twists more than the others. What sizes/colors did you get?

You have no idea how desperately I want to quit. The blackouts from coughing are really freaking me out, the wife out, even my kids. After one spell I woke up with a pretty sizeable amount of blood running all over my face where I had fallen out of the chair onto the tile floor and split my forehead with my glasses.

My BP is pushing 150/90, I am too out of breath to run/exercise, and quite frankly I have seen others win while I continually lose. That just irritates the hell out of me. There has to be something that triggers it for me. I think the VV, getting rid of the fillers, and looking into the 36 mg is at least worth looking into. Too many people have offered similar advice commiserating with what I am going through.

Thoughtful advice I probably would do well to take and will.

I got the black with the 1000mah batteries.
 

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There was another thread on this with someone asking after the fact. It has been determined that this is a B&M shop but the people running it (or writing their website) are not completely educated on joyetech.
They have a FB page and there has been pictures posted of the Twists they send out.
The person in the other thread also contacted them and they said it was an error.

That's good to know. Knockoffs are coming out of the woodwork lately. I definitely agree that Cignot is a superb vendor, I bought my first 2 Twists from them.

I recommended Sweet-Vapes as Hunters Friend was looking for a complete kit which Cignot doesn't sell, and it was better priced, and had more options. Hope I didn't offend anyone.
 
BTW Myk, I have done quite a bit of business with cignot in the past and would have this time as well. Kicker is, about 3 months ago I called them and asked them if they sold VV joyetech kits and the lady at the time told me JT didn't MFR a VV. You are correct though, their quality is 2nd to none and I never hesitate to recommend them when given the opportunity.
 

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You have no idea how desperately I want to quit. The blackouts from coughing are really freaking me out, the wife out, even my kids. After one spell I woke up with a pretty sizeable amount of blood running all over my face where I had fallen out of the chair onto the tile floor and split my forehead with my glasses.

My BP is pushing 150/90, I am too out of breath to run/exercise, and quite frankly I have seen others win while I continually lose. That just irritates the hell out of me. There has to be something that triggers it for me. I think the VV, getting rid of the fillers, and looking into the 36 mg is at least worth looking into. Too many people have offered similar advice commiserating with what I am going through.

Thoughtful advice I probably would do well to take and will.

I got the black with the 1000mah batteries.

Yepper, definitely sounds like it's time for you to make a change! Even cutting down, you will reap so many benefits. Just go easy on yourself.

The 1000mah is a little long, but very easy to get used to. The clearos are the most fiddle free options ATM, but there's so much stuff coming out, almost daily, that you'll be able to find other delivery systems that may be more suited to your needs.

Just know that there's always someone here to help :)
 
That's good to know. Knockoffs are coming out of the woodwork lately. I definitely agree that Cignot is a superb vendor, I bought my first 2 Twists from them.

I recommended Sweet-Vapes as Hunters Friend was looking for a complete kit which Cignot doesn't sell, and it was better priced, and had more options. Hope I didn't offend anyone.

Definitely not me kid. I appreciate any and all the help I can get. I have shopped with CN before and agree, great vendor. No reason not to try your recommendation as well. Thanks, Mike
 

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That's good to know. Knockoffs are coming out of the woodwork lately. I definitely agree that Cignot is a superb vendor, I bought my first 2 Twists from them.

I recommended Sweet-Vapes as Hunters Friend was looking for a complete kit which Cignot doesn't sell, and it was better priced, and had more options. Hope I didn't offend anyone.

I agree about the better price for the clearo/Twist kit. If a place is going to put together a kit something should be a freebee in it.
I can price the Vapor Hut kit out to be paying for everything included (which I can understand with them being a B&M).

I started saying Cignot before I realized he wasn't really asking about an eGo-C. Then I just happened to notice Vicki had clearos in stock now. She just doesn't want me to ever break even. :)
I figured it was still a good place to recommend figuring the mail hubs between Chicago to Branson would probably be 2-4 days.
 

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BTW Myk, I have done quite a bit of business with cignot in the past and would have this time as well. Kicker is, about 3 months ago I called them and asked them if they sold VV joyetech kits and the lady at the time told me JT didn't MFR a VV. You are correct though, their quality is 2nd to none and I never hesitate to recommend them when given the opportunity.

They probably weren't in the US at that time given your "about 3 months".
Working at home has me with no concept of time but I think the pre-released versions were just starting to get sent around about that time.
 

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I was a 2 pack-a-day smoker for 42 years, loved my cigs, didn't ever want to quit. But, last summer, I just felt I couldn't go another birthday being a prisoner any more.

Got a starter kit, and this is what I did. I figured I smoked 4 cigs an hour. Told myself that I would smoke 1 cig an hour, and vape the rest of the time until my next cig. Did that for about a week. Went to bed one night, woke up and said, "let's try vaping first and see how long I can go before I need a cig". That was over a year ago. You don't have to quit cold turkey, you do do what works for you.

I would recommend the WTA for you with an eGo Twist, a clearomizer, and some good quality juice. I make my own eliquid, but see if you can find a member named Mr. Mann. He is a tobacco connoisseur and can steer you towards those flavors,

I did the gum, patch, nicotrol inhaler, wellbutrin, chantix, acupuncture and hypnosis. Not a single one worked...this will. Just be patient and try everything you can.

Good luck to you sweetie ;)

While I appreciate the vote of confidence Cookster, I don't know if I am a connossieur or just a guy with a serious jones for tobacco vapes. :) I really am only good at helping people that have tried a lot and thus know what they are not looking for. But, will I try and help? Yes.
 
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Hi Hunters Friend, everyone gave such good advice and tips that even i can use. Although i don't have a problem with wanting a cig now i might someday and will save this thread for reference.

Where i live cigs are not expensive being not even 10 bucks a carton with taxes. I quit because i have asthma and cigs were making me unable to breathe.I was on 2 inhalers and still smoked until i started vaping. I still have asthma but now i only use one type of inhaler and less frequently.

anyways, i am so glad you posted because i learned a lot from all the replies...

oh yeah my fav flavor is tobacco and i so far have liked RY4 and Red. I will be trying more kinds in the future that i found here :)
 

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While I appreciate the vote of confidence Cookster, I don't know if I am a connossieur or just a guy with a serious jones for tobacco vapes. :) I really am only good at helping people that have tried a lot and thus no what they are not looking for. But, will I try and help? Yes.

Mr. Mann, I always love reading your posts. Very few describe things with your flair. I remember one about Gandalf that was pure poetry. To me that is a connoisseur. You are transported and you take us with you.:)
 

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I have a Provari mini and a couple of Twists after starting with a 510 and then an Ego-C and it makes a world of difference. Also, I didn't see anyone mention the fact that you should be prepared to have your PV in your mouth almost constantly at first. You can't think of it as taking a quick five minute session and then putting it down for a half hour the way you might have with analogs. I vaped almost constantly at first, although now I don't need to vape as often and am okay not vaping for a couple of hours at a time. I had a problem with finding a juice that satisfied me at first, too, as so many of them tasted too sweet for me and I didn't like any of the tobacco flavored ones. I finally found one that works for me and I hope you will, too. You have to be open to trying ones you think you would never in a million years enjoy.

When I started with the carts that came with the Ego-C, all I tasted was plastic, too, but once I switched to Stardusts and then the Vivi Nova, the taste of the juice really came through. I've found that even now, if I'm not careful about the way I hold the PV, I can get a nasty burnt plastic taste. If you tip it too far up, the juice doesn't get to the atty and if you don't tip it enough, it doesn't reach the wicks. It's definitely a learning process. At least with the Stardusts, I can get a burnt taste on a hit, adjust the way I'm holding it, and have it taste good again, whereas with some of the cartos, once it's burnt, it's ruined for good.

I started out thinking I would only want tobacco flavored juice, didn't like that so I tried about fifty different juices from candy to fruit to bakery to drink flavors. There are a couple I like as a treat, but only one I am happy to use all day long and that's Fiddle Faddle from Kick Bass Vapors. It sounds like it would be sticky, sickeningly sweet, and I'm surprised I even tried it, but it has a salty, buttery flavor that works for me from my morning coffee until my last vape of the day. It's the only juice I've found that completely hit the spot for me. I hope you find one that does the same for you.

I enjoyed the taste of analogs, too, and even after almost three months without one, when I walk through a crowd of smokers, I like the smell. But when I think of picking one up, lighting it, and inhaling, the thought grosses me out and after thirty years of smoking, that's a miracle.

Hang in there and be willing to be flexible. Don't force yourself to stop smoking completely the second you start vaping. Just vape when you feel like having a smoke and if you smoke some analogs, too, don't sweat it. The less pressure you put on yourself, the more likely it will be that vaping will become more enjoyable than smoking and you'll find yourself reaching for your PV instead of your lighter. Hopefully, one day soon, you'll realize that you aren't enjoying smoking anymore and realize you haven't had an analog in hours without missing it. While you are trying different juices and different strengths and different PVs, smoke when you need to without guilt. That's what worked for me anyway. Knowing I could have one if I wanted made me not need one, if that makes any sense at all.

Good luck!!
 

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Oh, like I didn't already write a novel length post, I forgot to add that if you hate fiddling with batteries and you said money isn't a problem, you might want to try the Provari or the Provari mini. Much longer battery life and can charge several batts at once. I found all the filling and refilling, charging and recharging to be a pain at first, too, but once I started using tanks that held enough juice for a day or two and the provari with the long battery life, the whole process was much less time consuming.

Every novel ends with acknowledgements, soooooo--I'd like to thank my mother, my father, my dry cleaner, and the guy who pumps out my septic tank, brave soul that he is.

(I'll try to make my points using fewer words next time, I promise. :blush:)
 
Every novel ends with acknowledgements, soooooo--I'd like to thank my mother, my father, my dry cleaner, and the guy who pumps out my septic tank, brave soul that he is.

(I'll try to make my points using fewer words next time, I promise. :blush:)

Oh that is RICH! :D

Thanks for the great post and the lol moment at the end.

So, have the Heather's blends coming in. 5 different types, 3 with a 70/30 mix, 2 straight 100% VG based on their recommendations.

Agreed with a previous poster here. A ton of information has been shared with me and I am very grateful. Especially the part for the support. I will say it gets annoying as hell having people begin to lecture you once you have fallen off of the horse. It's not like I wake up wishing for failure for the day...
 

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Hey HF! I'm glad to hear you got some 100% VG. With your current coughing problems, you might want to pay special attention to your reaction from PG at first. Some people react to it. I was just thinking if you're already suffering from severe coughing then the PG may irritate it more - at least to start with? My personal experience with PG was a tight chest/heavy lungs-type-feeling - and - really hard coughing. Thanks to the forum's threads re: the same, I read more about that. Since I transferred to the 100% VG I am doing much better. I too have recently upgraded to eGo-C Twist and stardusts from a 510. I think you'll like it. Not having to drip every minute is brilliant! One possible e-liquid vendor for you could be House of Liquid. Highly rated in Europe. By the way, does anyone know what (or if) there's an equivalent in the USA for us on a limited shipping cost budget?
 

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Hey Hunters Friend just thought I'd add to this wonderful thread that's going on, I can't agree more with what some others have already said about not beating yourself up over smoking a real cig. The biggest thing I think is to stay positive and go with the flow of it. It's a lot of trial and error as you've already experienced. Personally what's been working for me is a 100% VG Mango at 24mg from Cignot on an Ego-C Twist with Boge 2.0 Cartos. Hmm actually dripping more lately on a 306 debridged atty though, slightly better flavor and getting used to it for when my DIY stuff gets here.

However this hasn't worked at all for my fiancee. None of the flavors we've got have worked for her EXCEPT for a Cinnamon Redhot which gave her that strong flavor and throat hit that she craves. After some feedback from the great community here though we found that it's actually not the best stuff to be vaping (first clue was that it started to dissolve the plastic bottle it was in). Tons of info here about that so won't get too off subject. One juice that just arrived the other day which has a very strong tobacco flavor is the Boba's Bounty from AVE, I find it tastes kinda like a cigar. With her we've determined that it's mostly a flavor issue. She recommended that you think of a flavor that you love and try some different vendors that supply it. Something that you could eat all day (she loves redhots btw lol). We're still trying to figure out what will finally do the trick for her and it's a long process. She also had an issue with the size of the ego twist since it's a lot bigger than a real cig. Got her some 510's with boge 2.0ohm cartos and she's loving those. But she's recently become quite fond of the variable voltage after I suggested she try the cinnamon on it at a little higher than what the 510's provide (think they're at or around 3.3 volts?). Her "sweet spot" is about 4.0-4.2 volts. I prefer more around 3.6 usually.

It's all about finding what works best for you and trying different things. I'm so glad to hear you went ahead and got a VV device. I have noticed that in the time I haven't smoked a cig my taste buds are starting to "wake" up (been about 3 months now I guess). So I can definitely see where she's coming from about needing a strong flavor that she can actually taste. Maybe it's similar to what's going on with you? I was going to recommend you try out a tank, Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks makes some really nice ones (on my "to-get-list"). But since you only taste burning plastic or "filler" on cartos I'm not sure if that's the best route for you. Nobody wants to smoke plastic! Have you looked into bottom feeder mods? They seem pretty hassle free although I haven't tried one myself.

Anyways I'm kinda rambling on here. I think a support system is a big part in anyone trying make a change in their life, and hosting an event like you were talking about seems like a great idea. I guess the main thing I wanted to say was stick with it, try different things until you find what works for you. Anyone that's been truly successful at something has failed many times getting to that point. Learn from your mistakes and take it with you on your next venture. The biggest thing is staying positive and believing in yourself. There I go rambling again. Best of luck in your efforts!
 

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As you can see, I have been a member on this forum since back in 2009. In that time I have watched countless people kick the cigarette habit with eCigs and it just KILLS ME.

I have tried so many brands and models, different strengths of nicotine, even went so far as to wear a patch and vape at the same time. Still cannot get over my analog cravings.

Here is the issue - I am 47 now - smoke minimum 2 packs of Marlboros a day, have smoked almost exactly the same amount for the past 30 years - am slowly losing what health I have left - and have came to the end of my rope.

Quite frankly, I hate the taste of eCigs and cannot come close to the feeling and taste I get with analogs. It almost tastes like I am sucking in burnt plastic with eCigs.

Believe me, I have tried and tried and tried. From my first mall purchase to my latest Joye510 with 10, 18, 24, and 30 mg nicotine juice blends (and of course the exotic flavors as well)

I just don't know what is wrong with me. I will jump on the wagon, use them for a week and be right back to Marlboros. Literally craving them the entire time I am vaping - complete with nightmares.

On a side note, I own a resort with a convention center and have honestly thought about putting together a vaping convention for people all over the US to come to and sample the manufacturers products. "Don't like that? Try this. Or try this one...." and so on. We already host the largest Indian Motorcycle gathering in the world, why not Vapors?

Anyway, I am SO frustrated and would LOVE to hear from others that have beaten a similar problem like mine and how they did it.

Thanks, Mike

Hey Mike,

Like you, I too have a hard time kicking the habit BUT I have gotten myself down to 1 - 3 cigs a day which to me is a victory. I did quit for over a month but then life happened, I got stressed and had a cig. Several things helped me. First, upping the nic. I bumped it all the way to 36mg. I bounce between 36mg and 20mg all the time. I found a flavor that worked for me after about 50 different trials. I found a vendor that added the perfect "cool" to my vape but wasn't in anyway overpowering but enough to make me not want a smoke. But the one thing that helped me more than anything was something I read on here a long time ago. Someone had said "Try to stick to vaping but if the urge to have a cig becomes a overwhelming, step outside and take a few hits off a cig to take the edge off". Rome wasn't built in a day and I won't quit smoking in a day. Some can but I am not one of them.

Also, you say you own a resort with a convention center and mention throwing together an ecig convention. I think that would be great on SO many levels. You can go around to really figure out what might work for you, get helpful advice, discover stuff you may not knew existed or possibly didn't understand plus it could help others discover vaping and quit as well or help others like you and I.

Ultimately I hope everything works out for you :)

VJ
 
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