I am mouth to lung but.......

[tym64]

I really hate the mouth to lung tanks. I made the mistake of buying the nautilus x. OMG I HATED that tank. The design of it just baffles me and wonder wtf they were thinking.

After talking to another mouth to lung person, they had the same thought. Even wide open, we both found the mouth to lung tanks horrible. He has a Nautilus 2. After talking, we both decided that its not like smoking a cig at all. Even wide open feels like its allot of work to get the vape out, and he swears his Nautilus just eats the juice.

Eh, I will just stick with my baby beast, mouth to lung the vape, and go with what works.

 

[Bonskibon]

The good news is that there is a tank for every type of vaper. I MTL, but I like it more on the airy side so I tend to get subohm tanks and use or build MTL coils and adjust the air to my liking.

 

[madstabber]

I’m similar, I like a restricted pull from subohm tank. I mtl and take longer pulls also, I change it up. The crown tank is a good tank for this style with the .5 coils if you are looking for a factory coil tank they also have .25 coils and they’re both dual ss and last a very long time. With the afc you can adjust for a restrictive or DL hit. They also have a 1.2 ohm coil so there are many options with this tank. Oh and it don’t leak.

 

[r77r7r]

Sometimes swapping out the driptip helps.

 

[stols001]

No reason not to vape how it suits you. I will say the two MTL tanks you tried have tight draws. I'd suggest maybe a tron-S tank (fairly adjustable) with a 1.0 or even 0.5 Joytech CLR coil, and see how you did. If you are into RTAs the Ares or the Siren V2 might be a good choice. Or the Zenith if you want drop in coils, especially the 0.8 coil might suit you. It's an airy, cloudy draw.

Anna

 

[vapdivrr]

So a cigarette has an open draw like a sub ohm tank?

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[JCinFLA]

@tym64 - I'm definitely not a DTL vaper, and for the last 2 years I've used the little KFL+ V2 "shorty" tanks made from parts found at FT. You'll see in many other threads they're referred to as Kompact Kayfuns. Those were my most favorite tanks, and I used them almost exclusively every day!

Then, just within the last 2-3 weeks, I started using a Berserker 24mm MTL RTA and loved it! Have only used 1 of the KFL+ V2 shorty tanks for about a total of 3 hours since then. The Berserker is by far the best tank I've used in 4+ years of vaping. I've already gotten 1/2 dozen more for my "stash" and have a bunch of the 22mm Mini Berserkers coming from FT.

If you like a fairly airy MTL vape, just choose the largest AF hole on the AFC ring, and try a DT with a larger bore than the 2 that come with the tank. I personally like a less airy draw, so I set mine at the 2nd to the smallest hole (1.2mm IIRC) and use the supplied DT that came with them.

ETA: EightVape still has all 4 colors, on sale for the lowest price anywhere - $21.99

Vandy Vape Berserker MTL RTA - EightVape

FastTech has by far the lowest price for the 22mm Mini Berserkers. It'll show $44.99 on the FT page for them, but when you use the code MAP...it'll drop them drastically, to $26+ change for the SS and $27+ change for the colored ones.

 

[ian91]

Pick a tank where you can adjust the center airflow. It is what determines the overall draw of the tank. You could try either a Cthulhu Hastur or a Coppervape Skyline. Both have inserts for the center airflow to adjust to your liking. I like airy draws as well and would personally avoid the Berserker. From all that I have read, it would be far too tight a draw unless you drill it out.

$25.54 Authentic Cthulhu Hastur MTL RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3.5ml / 304 stainless steel + glass / 24mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$18.03 Coppervape Skyline Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 4ml / 316 stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[ScottP]

I really hate the mouth to lung tanks. I made the mistake of buying the nautilus x. OMG I HATED that tank. The design of it just baffles me and wonder ... they were thinking.

After talking to another mouth to lung person, they had the same thought. Even wide open, we both found the mouth to lung tanks horrible. He has a Nautilus 2. After talking, we both decided that its not like smoking a cig at all. Even wide open feels like its allot of work to get the vape out, and he swears his Nautilus just eats the juice.

Eh, I will just stick with my baby beast, mouth to lung the vape, and go with what works.

You are not alone. My current fav tank is the Serpent SMM, I changed to a much smaller tip (it came with a really short wide bore tip), and closed the AFC down about 80% and MTL is great like that.

Here is a pic of mine with the new tip and the AF setting I use.

 

[vapdivrr]

I really hate the mouth to lung tanks. I made the mistake of buying the nautilus x. OMG I HATED that tank. The design of it just baffles me and wonder ... they were thinking.

After talking to another mouth to lung person, they had the same thought. Even wide open, we both found the mouth to lung tanks horrible. He has a Nautilus 2. After talking, we both decided that its not like smoking a cig at all. Even wide open feels like its allot of work to get the vape out, and he swears his Nautilus just eats the juice.

Eh, I will just stick with my baby beast, mouth to lung the vape, and go with what works.

I do think the nautilus takes give the draw of a cig, but that's only half of the picture. What a cig gives you is a tight draw, but the pull is instant, whereas a low powered mtl tank takes a bit of time to get that vapor hot enough and fast enough into your lungs...for me the closest thing to a cig is definitely a sort of tight draw, but a coil that's fast enough to produce warm or hot vapor , a single coil rebuildable rta with 28g wire and wattages around 25 watts.

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[NeonH1]

I'm a MTL vaper. I've tried several different starter kits. I took a few purchases to find one I like.
The Eleaf iCare 2 - 1.3 ohm coil 15 watts is the perfect kit for me.
You get descent cloud production and good taste.
I'm probably going to buy a second one so I can rotate flavours.

 

[JCinFLA]

I like airy draws as well and would personally avoid the Berserker. From all that I have read, it would be far too tight a draw unless you drill it out.

Well, if you haven't tried 1 yourself...how do you really know? I also wonder sometimes, how many of the people who've written the things we read...have personal experience with what they're discussing or reviewing. Personal preferences also play into opinions a lot with vape gear. What's "too tight a draw" to 1 person may not be to others. I wonder how many who thought it was too tight, tried the largest AFC ring setting and a DT with a larger bore than the ones that come with it.

The more recent pages in the below thread on ECF offer some opinions on the Berserker, after people actually got them and used them. There's some OT discussion, as in many threads. But if you skim through about the 10-12 most recent pages...you'll get a good idea how many on here feel about it. I'm definitely not the only person who's a 100% MTL tank user...who has discovered he/she really likes the Berserker!

Vandy Vape BERSERKER (24mm) MTL RTA

ETA: I forgot something here, but have posted it in another thread. Just last week I had a friend who vapes only DTL, and has for years, try my Berserker. He set it at the largest hole size, replaced my DT on it with his own, and bumped up the wattage from my Tootle Puffer setting. He took a few hits on it and said it was pretty good, even for him. Of course he didn't get the monster clouds like he does on his set-ups with 0.3 coils and much higher wattage, but it was a decent vape in his opinion.

 

[Eskie]

I rarely mtl vape anymore, but I strongly agree with @JCinFLA opinions from actual users matters far more than second hand opinions. I've never used a Berserker, but have read good things about it in the RTA forum. That would be my first stop to check out any new tank for real life experience, which for me is preferable even to YT reviews.

 

[ScottP]

Well, if you haven't tried 1 yourself...how do you really know? I also wonder sometimes, how many of the people who've written the things we read...have personal experience with what they're discussing or reviewing. Personal preferences also play into opinions a lot with vape gear. What's "too tight a draw" to 1 person may not be to others. I wonder how many who thought it was too tight, tried the largest AFC ring setting and a DT with a larger bore than the ones that come with it.

That is all true, but I have to slightly disagree with using a wider bore Tip on a MTL device. They typically have small diameter chimneys so using a wide bore tip cannot change that. Using a small bore tip in a wider chimney works, the reverse is not true though.

 

[JCinFLA]

That is all true, but I have to slightly disagree with using a wider bore Tip on a MTL device.

Well, I thought that was why he got a decent hit off of it, since his DT definitely had a bigger bore. Maybe he just didn't want to use mine, but he has before. Could be it's because he's just got so much more DTL inhaling power, and practice at it, than I do. So it worked as well as it did for him. I know it sounds like he's trying to suck everything out of a tank when I hear him vaping even on his own set-ups!

 

[stols001]

My vaping "parameters" are increasing over time, but I still haven't vaped over 30 watts or less than 0.5 yet, not after my "Crash into vaping via 0.15 resistance." I think I know what I like and I did NOT like DL.

Anna

 

[ian91]

Well, if you haven't tried 1 yourself...how do you really know? I also wonder sometimes, how many of the people who've written the things we read...have personal experience with what they're discussing or reviewing. Personal preferences also play into opinions a lot with vape gear. What's "too tight a draw" to 1 person may not be to others. I wonder how many who thought it was too tight, tried the largest AFC ring setting and a DT with a larger bore than the ones that come with it.

The more recent pages in the below thread on ECF offer some opinions on the Berserker, after people actually got them and used them. There's some OT discussion, as in many threads. But if you skim through about the 10-12 most recent pages...you'll get a good idea how many on here feel about it. I'm definitely not the only person who's a 100% MTL tank user...who has discovered he/she really likes the Berserker!

Vandy Vape BERSERKER (24mm) MTL RTA

ETA: I forgot something here, but have posted it in another thread. Just last week I had a friend who vapes only DTL, and has for years, try my Berserker. He set it at the largest hole size, replaced my DT on it with his own, and bumped up the wattage from my Tootle Puffer setting. He took a few hits on it and said it was pretty good, even for him. Of course he didn't get the monster clouds like he does on his set-ups with 0.3 coils and much higher wattage, but it was a decent vape in his opinion.

Not trying to start an argument with you. I had plans to purchase one of these until I saw a picture of the base. The airhole on this RTA is less that 2mm. Probably more like 1.5mm. That is what dictates how much air you can get to the coil and, if you like an airy draw, that is not large enough. It does not matter how big a drip tip you put on it, you cannot make it supply any more air that what can come thru the center hole. I agree that a lot of people like this tank. I follow its thread as well. Not saying that it is not a great tank. Just saying that there is no way that it can be defined as airy.

 

[stols001]

Um... if air is involved it can be described as "airy" I think. Perhaps what you are doing actually is placing it on a continuum of "airiness to you," which isn't necessarily invaluable or useless information, but the things I used to consider "airy" were in comparison to the N2, so pretty much everything was "airier."

I don't know enough to know about physics to determine if the bottom holes of a tank ultimately determine its total "airiness" in comparison to other factors such as side airflow or chimney shape, but I do think that one's past experiences tend to be self-referential to future experiences, so if coming from a sub0hm tank with a resistance of 0.15 and a wide bore drip tip, something might be considered "not airy at all" to one person while "quite airy indeed" to another.

Airy is comparative, so it absolutely can be defined as "airy" to one person, not another. I find the discussion of airhole size and whatnot more relevant than the term itself, and that while I can usually fairly accurately predict what I will like, and what I will hate, but there is a continuum in between that place where I am sometimes pleasantly or unpleasantly surprised. If that makes any sense. I am still in a cold sweat, which just sucks so please excuse me if I am making no sense whatsoever

Anna

 

[tym64]

The one thing I have learned from you good people, and I have always believed it, is do whatever it takes to make vaping work for you. Don't be afraid to think outside the box,

I just felt like vaping was gonna fail in a big way, The mouth to lung tanks, I just hated, my baby beast was nice, but it was just lacking imho, that is until I got frustrated, hit youtube, and really looked into how to use it better.

My issue was warmth, when I finally cranked that baby beast up to 55 watts, and I was vaping it at 43, the difference for me any way was a game changer. I finally found the warmth I wanted, the flavor just pops in a much bigger way.

Would I swear its the answer for everyone, not on a bet. Everyone is different. Just gotta find what works best for you. When it comes to vaping, just dont be afraid to think outside the box, and try different things. If your mouth to lung, dont be afraid to try a direct to lung tank. If your direct to lung, dont be afraid to try a mouth to lung tank. Just because the tank, and shops tell you your style better fits this or that tank, does not mean they are right.

Follow your own path. I was sure vaping was gonna fail for me. I am so glad I stuck with it, and kept doing research.