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So Ok on the wonderful feedback from you all- I am convinced you all are 'Wee Saints' and will carry me along this decided quitting journey. (1) Less gas burnt rushing to Wallgreens for my $8.10 pack of Capri Cigs (2)-hiding out in the windy alley of my home I'm banned from smoking inside even the Garage (3)No more stare's leaving Home depot Nursery and the wink that I am killing my plants
(4) a renewed hope dah young studs will take a 2nd look and scent lavender 
. I will update when my product arrives .
Which one? The menu complaints, I'm obviously talking about the Provari. The comments about the phones applies to any modern Android phone or the iPhone 4s to some degree, but I was talking about the iPhone 4s. Seriously…it's the best point & shoot camera I've ever touched.
As for the first one, the Twist has a hands-down better interface for setting voltage. The VV Gripper, Darwin, and the versions of the lava tube that do it all IMO have a better interface for checking resistance. And I don't feel like knowing the exact resistance of your atty would be important at all if the voltage adjustment wasn't back
wards anyway. Of course, there's curiosity, but cheap multimeters cost about as much as a good 18490. For the second reason…I promise you I can break a Provari. And I would if I ever tried to use that menu system. Which sucks because I think they're really pretty and do offer a lot. But I'd chuck it against a wall the first time I tried to adjust the voltage, got the timing wrong, and turned it off. Okay…probably not the first time. I'd
on forums the first time. The first time on a day like today, it'd wind up in pieces after being chucked at a wall. As for the 3rd point. I agree. A "slick" UI doesn't add value. That's 50% of my complaints about iOS (the other 50% being that I hate touch screens and think their inventor should writhe in the fires of hell for eternity for unleashing that insurmountable evil on the world…so I guess it's actually 100%). There's a difference between "slick" and "usable."
The provari interface is slick. It is not usable.
I defy you to find one industrial application that takes that many buttons presses to do something that simple and is meant to be adjusted regularly.
Seriously…I'm not a crusader. I'm just ...... off at provape. If you like the provari and can deal with the interface, great. Use it. Keep from smoking and keep making your life better and enjoying your vape. That's awesome. I'm 100% sure it works as advertized and delivers a good vape. There has to be a reason people love it. And I'm sure it can shove current through a wire as well as anything else with batteries and better than most.
It, however, is not the end-all, be-all of vaping……and I can think of 10 mods I'd buy before a Provari. There is literally nothing about it that appeals to me enough to deal with that stupid
button, and saying things like "just get it; you won't regret it" strikes me as extremely short-sighted and naive.
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If you want it, if you can afford it. . .then buy it. I got my first nearly two years ago. I've been married to the same woman for more than 43 years. Only reason she's ever given me is, "I wanna", or "I don't wanna". That's good nuff for me. JMHO
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Where is all this hate coming from, for a product you've never even touched?
The interface is dead simple. I've not needed it much. An adjustment takes less than 5 seconds. Once I get past the point of fiddling with a new gadget for the sake of it, I'll need to use it even less. You're not far from me, so perhaps some day we'll cross paths and you are welcome to handle one first hand. It's just a fancy battery holder not worthy of all the negativity. If you handle it and try the UI first hand and still hate it, so be it. You're not hurting my feelings.
If it's the cost/value issue for you: definitely don't buy one. If there's other, less expensive battery mods out there you like better, you should buy what appeals to you. Seriously. I don't see the value with Rolex watches or Bentley sedans, but I don't have a mission to prove why they're equivalent to a Timex or Toyota. Nor do I hate the companies because they sell at a premium price point for features I either don't value or that they don't do as well as a less pricey model. Because beyond basic timekeeping or transportation, they have a completely different set of features and a price point that appeal to someone other than me.
When I said break it, I was speaking of the software interface. Of course you can break anything if that's your objective. I haven't got a single computing device with a complex GUI that in normal use doesn't at least jam up once in a while, requiring a restart. Logic circuits that set with button presses or dip switches have been around for decades. You can find them in garage door openers, light timers, and many other applications. They don't freeze or reboot. You set them and they just work. Yes you don't adjust them regularly. If you're that worried about twisting a dial on the bottom or having an immediate voltage up/down button under your finger, then yes, you will lose probably 3 seconds off your life adjusting a Provari each time you need something different and shouldn't buy one. I happen to like the slightly more effort to make a change. It would be nearly impossible to accidentally make a change, either handling it or rubbing against my keys in my pocket. While I'm sure others have similar lockout features, I'm satisfied with how this one works.
Yes there are mods out there that will push current through a wire for $100 less. Buy those. I carefully chose a Provari because I liked the package. That is, the product in it's entirety. I've been through two years of fiddling with all sorts of inexpensive vaping hardware. I decided I was going to make a move to a high end battery mod as I've finally reached a point where I just don't have the patience to fiddle with what I already have to make it work the way I want it to. The other mods I looked at appealed to me in some ways and not in others. I could tell you about a lifetime worth of crap I've bought where I compromised on a purchase, buying a lesser item that still got the job done. On this purchase I chose not to do that. This time I probably spent at least $100 on this that I could have saved buying something else that would work. That premium bought me exactly what I wanted with no compromise. It's more or less a one time purchase, so even less of a big deal.
And that is awesome input. Your provari was obviously not a bad purchase.
Honestly, the thing that bugs me is that when I came here looking for advice, a lot of what I read seemed to be provari users talking about how awesome they are. "Once you get it, you'll get it" and all that jazz. And I get that a lot of people like it.
I'm also curious, because I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would deal with that interface to do something so simple. What makes it worth it?
What about it makes that asinine interface even comparable to the buzz pro, infinity, darwin, vv gripper, or all the box mods that have a knob to set voltage? I'll throw out the lava tube for being cheap and badly built (comparatively) and accept that the vv gripper might be the same way and is chinese as opposed to American…but the others aren't. What about the others that all do that one thing–the Provari's resounding feature–better? The fact that it doesn't fire when something shorts?
Honestly, the thing that bugs me is that when I came here looking for advice, a lot of what I read seemed to be provari users talking about how awesome they are. "Once you get it, you'll get it" and all that jazz. And I get that a lot of people like it.
I'm also curious, because I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would deal with that interface to do something so simple. What makes it worth it?
What about it makes that asinine interface even comparable to the buzz pro, infinity, darwin, vv gripper, or all the box mods that have a knob to set voltage? I'll throw out the lava tube for being cheap and badly built (comparatively) and accept that the vv gripper might be the same way and is chinese as opposed to American…but the others aren't. What about the others that all do that one thing–the Provari's resounding feature–better? The fact that it doesn't fire when something shorts?
The interface appears worse on paper than it is in practice. Seriously, it's no more cumbersome than operating a stopwatch or using more than a single click on a computer mouse. Probably less difficult than the average tv remote. I've been using it since I got out of bed four hours ago and haven't had a desire or need to adjust it or use the other features anyway. Actually haven't done anything but press the go button all morning and get the same exact vapor each time. That is awesome, I don't care what kind of PV you use to get that.
I hear you on the "if you don't have one you wouldn't understand" advice, and I agree there are people who would buy a Provari for reasons that aren't important to me either. What I will say instead is: don't knock it till you try it. It's unfortunate that we still have to buy this stuff sight unseen for the most part.
The main appeal of the Provari to me is the rock solid current control throughout the battery cycle, followed by the quality construction, vendor reputation, and electronic features. It being a single, high capacity battery mod, safety cut off, cheaper standard rechargeable batteries and the rest were "nice to haves" but not deal breakers.
About the only tiny remorse I'm not sure I have yet, is that maybe I should have bought the mini version for portability. The Provari is not huge, but it isn't exactly as portable as a 650mAh eGo setup either. I'm still ok with my choice, as I'm marginally happier not worrying about battery life which would be the compromise with the smaller one.
I hear you on the "if you don't have one you wouldn't understand" advice, and I agree there are people who would buy a Provari for reasons that aren't important to me either. What I will say instead is: don't knock it till you try it. It's unfortunate that we still have to buy this stuff sight unseen for the most part.
The main appeal of the Provari to me is the rock solid current control throughout the battery cycle, followed by the quality construction, vendor reputation, and electronic features. It being a single, high capacity battery mod, safety cut off, cheaper standard rechargeable batteries and the rest were "nice to haves" but not deal breakers.
About the only tiny remorse I'm not sure I have yet, is that maybe I should have bought the mini version for portability. The Provari is not huge, but it isn't exactly as portable as a 650mAh eGo setup either. I'm still ok with my choice, as I'm marginally happier not worrying about battery life which would be the compromise with the smaller one.
Amen!
Just got mine today and it is a real beauty. I am delighted, it is definitely well worth the money.
Very solid buil, great finish, all perfect... Just buy it and never look back.
Any big battery mod be it the parvari or something like the v-tube has one major advantage over the twist. People like to talk about how a twist is only $20 to $25, but when it dies and it will die, that is another $20 to $25 for a replacement battery. If the battery in a v-tube of provari or such dies, it is less than half that for replacements.
honestly i say just grab a lava tube and fiddle with it to see if you like the vaping and vv exeperience. its cheap enough to just get and try it out for now. what if you spend the money on a provari you dont even like vaping, or if gives you side effects, or any issue that could derive from vaping. at least if u get the lava tube and u find out that you dont like vaping a $49 dollar investment isnt that big of a loss then $159 starting price for the provari
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TV remotes and computer mice have more than 1 button for a reason. And they can do a lot more than any PV. I think the fact that you're comparing them at all supports my point that the Provar interface is vastly more "slick" than usable.
I'm not arguing that the provari is overpriced or that people shouldn't buy them. I'm saying that I think it's one of the worst designs out there for adjusting to taste from moment to moment or device to device if your tastes aren't incredibly consistent and your devices aren't all the same resistance. If you don't want that or are willing to deal with the interface for the pretty……that's different. But that does not mean it's awesome for everyone.
And I'll be happy to give yours a try at some point. I promise not to chuck it at anything. If I feel like I'm wrong, I'd admit it. But I just don't understand how people haven't demanded better from something so many people consider "the Best".
I have to throw my cent in this.
I used to think just like you, I went with the LT1.5 or what ever it's called now, I liked the three button interface better than the single button of the provari, I thought that one button would be too cumbersome to use ( reading it on paper it sound hard) then my wife got me one and all I can say is it's really easy, and if you pass up any setting just go back around to it.
My LT sits on the counter with my juice and other stuff, my provari sits in my hand.
I'm a convert.
I used to think just like you, I went with the LT1.5 or what ever it's called now, I liked the three button interface better than the single button of the provari, I thought that one button would be too cumbersome to use ( reading it on paper it sound hard) then my wife got me one and all I can say is it's really easy, and if you pass up any setting just go back around to it.
My LT sits on the counter with my juice and other stuff, my provari sits in my hand.
I'm a convert.
I want to get a Provari so I can wear a towel on my head like PBusardo and listen to Gregorian Chants....just saying.
Maybe provape should make one with voice recognition, a robotic arm that brings the pv to your mouth, and something that forces the vapor into your lungs so you dont have to inhale. Then you can just sit there and do nothing.
All i can say is with the provari you'll never know until u hold/own one the everything is amazing on this thing i haven't even thought about the 188 price tag (bought extra bat). Provari mini with a 1.5 hh357 oh man!
Love my Provari - Only had it about a week but wish I would have done it sooner..
I took all the normal progressions,disposalble to blu to eGo pasthru,then the Ego Twist.It took 3 twists to get me thru the day.Then when I got home I had to start the charging as soon as I got thru the door so Id have them all charged by bedtime for the next day,all the while using the passthrus to get me thru the night.Total of 5 batterys for one day.I decided I needed a better system and a VV that used removeable batts seemed the way to go.I studied hard on what to buy and settled on the Provari for one reason and one reason only.(having no 1st hand knowledge to base my purchase on)..I decided on the Provari because of threads like this.I venture to say there is only 1 seriously negetive veiw in the thread.Not to say that that view is in anyway wrong,if thats the view,then thats the view.But so many positive views cant be wrong,and they are not IMHO.I got my Provari yesterday morning and have not used my twist since,and I love those twists. Ive not had the need to use them.The 18650 battery gets me thru the day.I switch off to the 18490 when i get home,drop the 18650 in the charger and dont worry about even checking it till bedtime.It took me all of 5 mins (stretching it) to learn the functions of the Provari.Piece of cake..
I've also been thinking of buying a Provari. I love all the features listed on their site. The price...meh. It's not so bad. It'll definitely take me a minute to save up for it. No problem though. My Silver Bullet has been great for these past almost 14 days. (Oh, so long! Ha!) No complaints. I love it but yes, must have more pv's!!! lol
Honestly, I'll probably order one at some point to see if I "get it". But I'd bet against me keeping it. It's not about being a convert, it's about accepting a terrible design choice for the sake of……………an ohmmeter?
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