I am too NERVOUS! I bought my FIRST Dripping Atomizer :( :(

[EvadeRevol]

Hi guys, Noob Here.

I don't have perfect knowledge with "coils" "Ω Ohms" stuff.
But I watched the whole tutorials and videos how they doin' it.

Today I bought SMPL + Derringer
BUT !!! (This is why Im nervous) I bought pre-coiled wires from fasttech
(I don't wanted to roll myself. I think I'll mess with it)

The coil is : 0.37ohm / 0.56mm dia. (23 AWG) Kanthal A1 Nichrome.

$3.31 Authentic Kanthal A1 Nichrome Pre-Coiled Wires for RDA Atomizers (50-Pack) 50-pack - 0.37ohm / 0.56mm dia. (23 AWG) / 15*15mm leads at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I'll plug two of them on my derringer. Is it ideal for it ?
Or do you guys can suggest me another pre-coiled coils from fasttech ??

THANKS ALOT
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EDIT :
Thanks for all of you for saving my life
I canceled the order of SMPL, And bought Joyetech Evic VTC Mini. Also I bought 0.8 Ohm wires, and canceled the 0.3 ohms.

I hope Im save now Thanks a lot guys, AGAIN !!!

 

[BrotherBob]

Might consider going to a local vape shop and talk to some folks before trying this out.
You have left out too many parameters to answer your question. This worries me.
Vape safe first.

 

[Wake'n'Vape]

Dual coils will also half the resistance so you will actually be vaping under .2 ohms, what device are you planning to use it on? +1 on doing some more research before jumping into rebuildables though.

 

[Izan]

Get your money back for the SMPL and invest in a SAFER regulated device to use with the dripper.

Good luck
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[nyiddle]

Gonna vote a strong "no" on whatever it is you're about to do until you do some more research.

First off, using dual coils halves the resistance. .37/2 = .18 ohms. This exceeds the amp limit of any 20A battery on the market. So right off the bat, no, that is not safe. Add to that, there's gonna be variations in the coil resistances because they're pre-built in a factory, likely with little to no quality control. If you have no way of measuring the coils before attaching them to your atomizer that's a problem in itself. Never attach coils with unknown resistances to an atomizer.

Secondly, the SMPL is a faux hybrid mod. The atomizer makes direct connection to the battery. This is a big "hazard zone" as it makes the possibility for a short way higher. Add to that, the SMPL has been proven to have inadequate venting capabilities, as it's essentially just a solid tube. I don't recommend the SMPL even to seasoned mech veterans.

Basically, everything about your setup is asking for trouble, and it's only exacerbated by your lack of knowledge.

Start here, and do some serious reading.

 

[HighPlainsPuffer]

So if one of these coils has a .37 resistance, on a single battery mechanical you'll be putting out around 47 watts with a single coil (under 12 amps), which is fine. With two of these coils you'll be running .185 resistance, which is pushing 95 watts, but that's around 22 amps. So the problem here could be your battery. 22 amps is quite a bit, so you'll definitely want one that can really push amps, like the vtc3 or hb series, because that's too much load for an efest or something subpar like that. I would suggest taking a look at the battery section for some recommendations. Should a battery vent under load you'll have some major problems on your end.

 

[haleysdadda]

Hi guys, Noob Here.

I don't have perfect knowledge with "Coils" "Ω Ohms" stuff.
But I watched the whole tutorials and videos how they doin' it.

Today I bought SMPL + Derringer
BUT !!! (This is why Im nervous) I bought pre-coiled wires from fasttech
(I don't wanted to roll myself. I think I'll mess with it)

The coil is : 0.37ohm / 0.56mm dia. (23 AWG) Kanthal A1 Nichrome.

$3.31 Authentic Kanthal A1 Nichrome Pre-Coiled Wires for RDA Atomizers (50-Pack) 50-pack - 0.37ohm / 0.56mm dia. (23 AWG) / 15*15mm leads at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I'll plug two of them on my derringer. Is it ideal for it ?
Or do you guys can suggest me another pre-coiled coils from fasttech ??

THANKS ALOT

First of all you should learn about "OHMS STUFF" before you even think about using any mech mod!
@pwheeler could you help this gentleman out since I know very little about mechs?

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Hi @EvadeRevol , and welcome to ECF! Congrats on your decision to quit smoking and start vaping. WOOT!!!

May I ask who set you up with that equipment? Here is why I ask. I'm the happiest, live and let live guy in the world, but your setup really concerns me. The SMPL is a hybrid mechanical, with absolutely NO safety features. The Derringer is ALSO, an advanced piece of equipment. BOTH require a very good working knowledge of battery safety, ohms law, and a great deal of diligence to prevent a hard short and venting of the battery. I am always amazed when someone sets a beginner up with this kind of gear. I've been vaping for over 3 years, grew up on the most rudimentary stuff, and I wouldn't vape that if I didn't have to.

Dual coils of .37 ohms is going to produce a 0.185 ohm build, on a mechanical. NO bueno, mang. On a fresh 4.2v charge, the battery is going to discharge at 22.11 amps and create 95 watts of power. CRAZY, bro.
Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
That's going to stress even the best batteries out there, which you may or may not have.

That link above is for Steam Engine. A great resource for the math. The knowledge is here.. You need someone to help you get a safe, regulated setup or dial down the aggressiveness of the setup you have, a LOT. Also, hybrids are notorious for the ability to hard short a battery. Vent in SECONDS. I just don't get who sets noobs up with this stuff. Sorry man, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but somebody has given you a pipe bomb.

 

[HighPlainsPuffer]

Just to put a little more advice on the table, I would really suggest you explore dripping with a regulated device. It will allow you to play with the wattage to really see what you like in your drippers before you start using a mechanical. The advantage to mechanicals is once your ideal build is cemented in place you can stick right there, but to find that ideal vape really takes a regulated setup. Also, it will alleviate any problems with low resistance that mechanicals can have as your mod just wont fire it if it is below the mod's acceptable range. Move to mechs after you have that baseline in ideal vape established. Drippers and mechs aren't synonymous.

 

[pennysmalls]

If you do decide to go through with this at least purchase some genuine 30 Amp batteries first. Check out Mooch's blog for a list of battery ratings and limits.

 

[pwheeler]

These other folks were spot on with respects to battery usage and safety. First off, learn ohms law. There is a direct relationship between resistance, amperage and voltage. If you use those coils, do it in single coil only. Make absolutely sure you have an ohm meter to check your atty every step of the way, including after wicking and applying the top cap. You could read perfect, but could be shorting out against the cap. Check out YouTube. There are many, many tutorials on coil building. Learn it. I wouldn't put any mod to my face where I don't build the coils myself, or a friend hands me his mod to try after its known to be good. Please refrain from doing something that can hurt you, or worse. Learn first.

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[pwheeler]

Oh, another thing, ditch that SMPL! That's like a pipe bomb!

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[Frederick Hew]

totally agreed.
should do more research about ohm's law before you started with a mech mod.
SMPL is a pipe bomb indeed.

 

[haleysdadda]

Well there you go @EvadeRevol the oldtimers/experts have spoken! Get at least get a safer mod until you learn this "OHMs stuff". There is alot to learn about safety also! Just trying not to get you hurt mang! Be safe & "Vape long & prosper"!

 

[LouisLeBeau]

I hope the OP has a chance to read this, before he goes lighting that thing up. @EvadeRevol , could you check in and let us know that you have this information? REALLY important. We care a LOT about each other around here, and we want to make sure you know that the setup you have, ISN'T really appropriate for you, or anyone really.

 

[suprtrkr]

+1 on the safety angle. A dual coil setup with those coils will draw 23+ amps. On a single battery tube mod, that's a good way to blow your face off. I only know 3 batteries that would withstand that draw, plus 1 maybe. You'll probably survive a single coil setup. If you have good batteries, anyway, and if the SMPL doesn't short out. I've been vaping mechs for years, and know exactly what I am doing. I wouldn't have a SMPL, or any other faux hybrid mod, in the house. Put that build on a regulated mod, you'll do fine. I don't suggest it on a mech.

 

[Tol]

Definitely research a lot more, and maybe stick to a regulated mod in the meantime. As others have stated, dual coil will cut the resist in half so depending on the battery you have in it, you could be asking for trouble.

 

[djsvapour]

There are some usable coils from Fasttech.

Having seen a few heat up and collapse on me, I wouldn't recommend them on anything but the safest mod you can buy. The first time I saw it happen, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. QC? Maybe.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Hi guys, Noob Here.

I don't have perfect knowledge with "Coils" "Ω Ohms" stuff.
But I watched the whole tutorials and videos how they doin' it.

Today I bought SMPL + Derringer
BUT !!! (This is why Im nervous) I bought pre-coiled wires from fasttech
(I don't wanted to roll myself. I think I'll mess with it)

The coil is : 0.37ohm / 0.56mm dia. (23 AWG) Kanthal A1 Nichrome.

$3.31 Authentic Kanthal A1 Nichrome Pre-Coiled Wires for RDA Atomizers (50-Pack) 50-pack - 0.37ohm / 0.56mm dia. (23 AWG) / 15*15mm leads at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I'll plug two of them on my derringer. Is it ideal for it ?
Or do you guys can suggest me another pre-coiled coils from fasttech ??

THANKS ALOT

DON'T DO IT!

Go back to the shop where you got started, take your gear with you and talk to them about everything you own, safe use, and make sure you will not have any problems.

 

[KeepNitReel]

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