I cant be the only one doing this *Beer *Wine

[mgmixology]

So I consume a wide variety of craft beer, wine, and other sorts of alcohol.
Craft beer many of times is in dark glass bottles, along with most wines I seem to buy...Most of which can be re-corked. IF re-corking is not possible there are very cheap bottle re-closers I have found in a 3 pack for 1.47$ at local wineries.
That being said - 1 fl oz is just about 30ml...funny..30ml is very common amongst vapers.
so a 12 oz beer bottle is approx 360ml~
Almost all wine is sold in 750ml bottles.

So for you beer drinkin, wine lushing, alcohol swashin fools out there...this is "food" for thought.

*note* Im aware of the safety issue that this might arise, but with enough sense..you should know not to drink the :beer:wine: bottles stored next to your vaping stash.

Also I've found it quite easy to label.

All in all, ive just found it odd people spend 1 dollar per glass bottle of certain sizes and variants....when you can spend 1 dollar per beer and come out with a win-win. * Not saying I exclusively use beer and wine bottles....just comes in handy.. I like to premix certain perfected recipes flavor/pg/vg...then just add nic...my finished product goes into purchased glass bottles with glass droppers

Cheers

 

[timk]

i brew beer at home and have a bottle capper tool. they don't cost much so if you want to seal a beer bottle up it's super easy. some caps even have an oxygen absorbing material in them. caps are really cheap too.

 

[mgmixology]

very good addition timk, I just try and pose to the masses, as not everyone has a bottle capper tool...but reclosers are easy to obtain

 

[dannyv45]

For us Non - beer drinkin, wine lushing, alcohol swashin fools. I'll stick to what ever I can scrounge up or buy at a reasonable price. But all in all great suggestion

 

[awsum140]

I do mix ahead, but 360ml or 750ml is quite a bit, even for a vape head like me. I'd worry the flavor would go south before I got to the bottom of my carefully crafted mix, LOL.

 

[mgmixology]

great observation, I finally posted this because of the influx of people looking to store large amounts of Nic. Also keep in mind awsum, you dont have to fill them to the top with stuff =]

 

[mrcoolbp]

Yeah, this is a great idea for long-term nic storage. However, the large caveat is keeping the oxygen out. You want a really good seal if you want to store it for over 2 years (even in a freezer). Air has this tendency to get around everywhere over these long time-frames. A beer bottle capping device might help, but I'd wait for a chemist to way in on that before I made that claim especially because beer is meant to be "fresh" (yes there's an aging process but its only a few weeks) so beer should be consumed in about a month or so from when it's ready. Not sure about corks but I'd guess that's not the best seal as they are inherently porous.

By the way the preferred method of sealing bottles for long-term nic storage is poly-seal caps as recommended by the resident chemists, and you'd be hard-pressed to find those that fit (even a screw off) beer bottle.

 

[mgmixology]

Yeah, this is a great idea for long-term nic storage. However, the large caveat is keeping the oxygen out. You want a really good seal if you want to store it for over 2 years (even in a freezer). Air has this tendency to get around everywhere over these long time-frames. A beer bottle capping device might help, but I'd wait for a chemist to way in on that before I made that claim especially because beer is meant to be "fresh" (yes there's an aging process but its only a few weeks) so beer should be consumed in about a month or so from when it's ready. Not sure about corks but I'd guess that's not the best seal as they are inherently porous.



By the way the preferred method of sealing bottles for long-term nic storage is poly-seal caps as recommended by the resident chemists, and you'd be hard-pressed to find those that fit (even a screw off) beer bottle.

Not against your reply here mrcool, other then the comments made about beers having an aging process of 2 weeks, and to be consumed in a month or so. May be the case for your generic/domestic....but not in the craft world.
How To Store Beer - BeerAdvocate

 

[mrcoolbp]

Not against your reply here mrcool, other then the comments made about beers having an aging process of 2 weeks, and to be consumed in a month or so. May be the case for your generic/domestic....but not in the craft world.
How To Store Beer - BeerAdvocate

Well thanks for the pertinent link! I read through it and there might be hope for this method after all. Still, there is one interesting bit at the end:

Note on refrigerators: Long-term use is not recommended. Refrigerators are designed to keep food dry, so dehydration of cork can become an issue (laid-down or upright). Corked beers that you wish to age long-term should be kept in a cellar, where moderate humidity levels might be more appropriate.

Freezers are even drier then refrigerators. So it looks like corks wouldn't be optimal for long-term freezer storage. I'm not sure about the synthetic corks, those might work. Also I dont know, how a modern "beer cap" would hold up in this environment, but info in that link suggest they might be viable.

 

[mgmixology]

Well I havent looked into the perfection of nic storage at all, and tbh I'm not part of the "freak out" and stocking up on large amounts of nic base...Only thing I really use this idea for is my perfected recipes. I put the idea out there for possible growth!
If a nic crisis ever comes along, I'll just buy whole tobacco leaves and go from there.

 

[awsum140]

Mixing, say 100ml, and putting it into a 360ml or 750ml bottle, without a good seal, would probably, and I stress "probably", result in too much air getting to the liquid. For the cost of a dozen 30ml, 60ml and/or 120ml bottles I think it's well worth the expense, and no worries about air infiltration.

I normally buy nicotine in 250ml bottles and break it up into 60ml bottles that go into the freezer along with my PG and VG stash. 250ml will fit into four 60ml bottles which reduces air space even further. I think a 60ml bottle actually will hold 65ml when "topped off". I do keep a "working" bottle of each in the back of the refrigerator and take them out the night before I mix to let them come to room temperature.

 

[mrcoolbp]

Mixing, say 100ml, and putting it into a 360ml or 750ml bottle, without a good seal, would probably, and I stress "probably", result in too much air getting to the liquid. For the cost of a dozen 30ml, 60ml and/or 120ml bottles I think it's well worth the expense, and no worries about air infiltration.

I normally buy nicotine in 250ml bottles and break it up into 60ml bottles that go into the freezer along with my PG and VG stash. 250ml will fit into four 60ml bottles which reduces air space even further. I think a 60ml bottle actually will hold 65ml when "topped off". I do keep a "working" bottle of each in the back of the refrigerator and take them out the night before I mix to let them come to room temperature.

This post is dead on. Dvap, one of the resident chemists who offers his opinions on these matters, has gone as far to say that most of us storing nice using all these stipulations to prevent oxidation is basically worthless. That being said, I go through a very small amount of effort to keep my long-term nic stable.

Using beer bottles or even wine bottles might actually be relatively stable for this purpose if one could get a decent seal.

That being said, finished juice from what I understand is a different beast. It's much less stable and I wouldn't store large amounts of it, especially not with a some air in the bottle, and definitely not without a decent seal. With mixed juice I wouldn't worry about nicotine degradation, but that flavors can start to be "off" or "go south" more quickly in this environment. Finished juice has a shorter shelf life than nic base (in my experience). That might be just me, but these are things to consider.