I cant find the right juice for me

[Caridwen]

I would stick with just "OK" for the time being. You're tastes are probably still changing and what you like today you may hate next week. I bought massive amounts of e-liquid when I started and hated 95% and eventually went back to the first e-liquid I bought. Try one or two a month. vaping isn't going anywhere. With all of the money you're spending on e-liquid you aren't going to vape, you could buy yourself a nice mod.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I would stick with just "OK" for the time being. You're tastes are probably still changing and what you like today you may hate next week. I bought massive amounts of e-liquid when I started and hated 95% and eventually went back to the first e-liquid I bought. Try one or two a month. Vaping isn't going anywhere. Will all of the money you're spending on e-liquid you aren't going to vape, you could buy yourself a nice mod.

Why do you have to come in here with your sensible post? hahaha! Good advice, C. Eliquid can be the one of the hardest challenges to overcome. A mod (PV) is easy to assess without actually having, where eliquid always looks good! But that's the catch, every liquid is made to look good and the sooner you realize that no one is going to sell juice without making it look good, in spite of the fact that it probably isn't, the sooner you will be fine. Sometimes, you just can't let yourself look.


Yeah, what I raved about initially changed shortly thereafter.

 

[Tmax]

Hi tastyjuice

I think most of us struggle with getting an all day vape, or something that we just love. Taste is such a funny thing and of course smoking cigarettes is not like drinking or smelling something - Its burning !!!!! - so it will always be difficult to get a smoking taste - but hell I never tasted my ciggies anyway, it was mostly derived from strength ie Marlboro lights not reds, ie throat hit.

What confuses things even more is your vaping skills, and your setups. Cartos and cartridges are one thing but rebuildables are another!!

What is usually misunderstood is that we should be vaping on WATTAGE (POWER) not voltage. A perticular juice will come to life (or not) at a particular power setting. I find 7-8 watts the best because I like flavour more than throat hit.

You have a Vamo so you can set the wattage. Now try the same juice with a simple atty dripped onto at say 8 watts, then change over to the Nova tank at same wattage and it will probably taste similar but maybe more muted for flavour.

I'm sorry but its your setup, your juice and your understanding as time goes on. Plus your tastes will change !!!!!!

It's a fun hobby - I'm so glad I started

Hope this helps

 

[tastyjuice]

Hi tastyjuice

I think most of us struggle with getting an all day vape, or something that we just love. Taste is such a funny thing and of course smoking cigarettes is not like drinking or smelling something - Its burning !!!!! - so it will always be difficult to get a smoking taste - but hell I never tasted my ciggies anyway, it was mostly derived from strength ie Marlboro lights not reds, ie throat hit.

What confuses things even more is your vaping skills, and your setups. Cartos and cartridges are one thing but rebuildables are another!!

What is usually misunderstood is that we should be vaping on WATTAGE (POWER) not voltage. A perticular juice will come to life (or not) at a particular power setting. I find 7-8 watts the best because I like flavour more than throat hit.

You have a Vamo so you can set the wattage. Now try the same juice with a simple atty dripped onto at say 8 watts, then change over to the Nova tank at same wattage and it will probably taste similar but maybe more muted for flavour.

I'm sorry but its your setup, your juice and your understanding as time goes on. Plus your tastes will change !!!!!!

It's a fun hobby - I'm so glad I started

Hope this helps

Thank you for the respond but when I set my Vamo to 8 watts I just got a horrible burning taste! Ive tried to talk to people about rebuildables and I get remarks like they are more trouble then they are worth or you dont want to mess around with those etc etc. I wish I could sit down and have someone actually show me how to set one of those up and operate it because Im very interested in learning the process and gaining more skills in vaping. I did purchase the kanger protank, hopefully that shed new light on my juices

 

[Tmax]

Yes rebuildables are another learning curve - but to be honest if you stick at it, inside a couple of days you get the hang of it.

Good vids to watch would be PBarsado and ToddsReviews. There is plenty out there. I started with a £19 ($20-25) clone of the mini DID, get some spare mesh and Kanthal AWG 30 & 32.

But I reckon as you wanna look at Juices get yourself a igo-L dripping rebuildable. That takes Silica (Fibreglass) wick. Again there are plenty of vid on youtube to show you how to set one of these up. Because the wick is silica you will not get the electrical shorts that you get with Stainless Steel Mesh Genisis Style atomizers.

The igo-L is just a base with a couple of contacts to wire the coil onto. It really is pretty easy, and seriously WILL give you the taste you have been not finding IN THE JUICES you already own.

Good luck buddy - Personally I've been vaping only since end Feb, not touched a stinky since and already spent a .......ing fortune. Mostly on rebuildables and mechanical mods. Now I'm getting into DIY juices so that should keep me busy.

Remember watch alot on youtube also look out for Scott Bonner (igetch69) his vids are pretty informative. Mostly I've given you British vids (obviously) but I'm sure other people here will recommend US ones like ripTrippers JCWest etc etc.

Here's PBusardo reviewing the igo-L
A PBusardo Review - The IGO-L RBA - YouTube

Here's Todd reviewing the igo-ss (basically same thing)
IGO-SS RBA from vapingthings.com - YouTube

Oh BTW Todd always uses Grants Vanilla Custard - a great e-Juice from here:
http://grantsvanillacustard.com/

Hope this helps

 

[Tmax]

Tasty Juice

Sorry I didn't comment on 8 watts burning taste. 8 Watts is NOT the reason for the burning taste. The burning taste is ONLY ONLY ONLY the result of no juice getting on the coil.

This is to do with wicking nothing else. Yes the higher the power the FASTER the juice will be used up AND if enough juice cannot flow fast enough to the coil, the coil will glow and give off that metallic nasty burnt taste.

So power needs to be balanced with wicking. Hence the fact we vape on power and not volts.

Take a look at the ohms calculator
Ohm's Law Calculator

=== just enter any two of the variable - usually Resistance (Your mod will tell you the resistance of your coil) in ohms and the wattage you think you want to try. This then gives you the voltage to set. ===

And you will see that 3.7 volts (Basic ego batteries) with a 1.7 ohm coil gives you 8 watts of power. That is why the smaller batteries need Low Resistance coils. The other end is to do 5volts with a 3.5 ohm coil this also gives you 8 watts.

Now 8 watts is no magic number - but you need to find the right wattage for ANY particular juice, that works for you. So you can use ANY atty with any resistance coil and you know what voltage you will need to vape at to give you your sweet spot for that juice.

 

[tastyjuice]

Yes rebuildables are another learning curve - but to be honest if you stick at it, inside a couple of days you get the hang of it.

Good vids to watch would be PBarsado and ToddsReviews. There is plenty out there. I started with a £19 ($20-25) clone of the mini DID, get some spare mesh and Kanthal AWG 30 & 32.

But I reckon as you wanna look at Juices get yourself a igo-L dripping rebuildable. That takes Silica (Fibreglass) wick. Again there are plenty of vid on youtube to show you how to set one of these up. Because the wick is silica you will not get the electrical shorts that you get with Stainless Steel Mesh Genisis Style atomizers.

The igo-L is just a base with a couple of contacts to wire the coil onto. It really is pretty easy, and seriously WILL give you the taste you have been not finding IN THE JUICES you already own.

Good luck buddy - Personally I've been vaping only since end Feb, not touched a stinky since and already spent a .......ing fortune. Mostly on rebuildables and mechanical mods. Now I'm getting into DIY juices so that should keep me busy.

Remember watch alot on youtube also look out for Scott Bonner (igetch69) his vids are pretty informative. Mostly I've given you British vids (obviously) but I'm sure other people here will recommend US ones like ripTrippers JCWest etc etc.

Here's PBusardo reviewing the igo-L
A PBusardo Review - The IGO-L RBA - YouTube

Here's Todd reviewing the igo-ss (basically same thing)
IGO-SS RBA from vapingthings.com - YouTube

Oh BTW Todd always uses Grants Vanilla Custard - a great e-Juice from here:
http://grantsvanillacustard.com/

Hope this helps

Tasty Juice

Sorry I didn't comment on 8 watts burning taste. 8 Watts is NOT the reason for the burning taste. The burning taste is ONLY ONLY ONLY the result of no juice getting on the coil.

This is to do with wicking nothing else. Yes the higher the power the FASTER the juice will be used up AND if enough juice cannot flow fast enough to the coil, the coil will glow and give off that metallic nasty burnt taste.

So power needs to be balanced with wicking. Hence the fact we vape on power and not volts.

Take a look at the ohms calculator
Ohm's Law Calculator

=== just enter any two of the variable - usually Resistance (Your mod will tell you the resistance of your coil) in ohms and the wattage you think you want to try. This then gives you the voltage to set. ===

And you will see that 3.7 volts (Basic ego batteries) with a 1.7 ohm coil gives you 8 watts of power. That is why the smaller batteries need Low Resistance coils. The other end is to do 5volts with a 3.5 ohm coil this also gives you 8 watts.

Now 8 watts is no magic number - but you need to find the right wattage for ANY particular juice, that works for you. So you can use ANY atty with any resistance coil and you know what voltage you will need to vap at to give you your sweet spot for that juice.

Thank you very much for the responses. I am using a 2.8OHMS head right now in my VIVI. The wicks are thicker, should I be using a smaller OHMS (thinner wick) so that the juice is more easily absorbed into the wick, meaning I can vap at a higher power? I apologize for all the questions, Im just trying to figure this out. I have watched a ton of videos and they really dont ever talk about these kinds of things.

 

[oxygen thief]

If you like Blueberry, trust me on this one, Blue Honey
The reviews kind of speak to how great a flavor this is. Hope you get a chance to try it.

 

[cags]

I think everyone should have some unflavored liquid on hand. I like a 50/50 pg/vg ratio ( love the vapor) some people say it tastes slightly sweet.

 

[Tmax]

Thank you very much for the responses. I am using a 2.8OHMS head right now in my VIVI. The wicks are thicker, should I be using a smaller OHMS (thinner wick) so that the juice is more easily absorbed into the wick, meaning I can vap at a higher power? I apologize for all the questions, Im just trying to figure this out. I have watched a ton of videos and they really dont ever talk about these kinds of things.

Not really - 3mm silica holds more ejuice & wicks faster than 1mm wick. So you use the wick that suits the size of the atty & the space available & coil size of course.

I can only talk from my experiences, but I have a couple of VIVI Nova Tanks the STV and the normal clear one. Even running the LR 2.0 ohm attys in them they always seem muted & dull. Sorry but I think this is your big problem.

IMHO Boge or Smok DCT Cartomizers work better, even if you dont use a tank.

The fact you are on here asking and looking tells me you gonna go the whole hog and stay with vaping. So beleive me you are gonna end up with rebuildables probably both genesis and drippers. Just take the plunge. Go get AGA-T2 or the igo-L get some silica, mesh & kanthal. Build a coil - it will suck, build again and again & slowly it will make sense.

If you could try my gear you would say - OMG !!!! thats vaping.

really it is chalk & cheese - thats why the old timers here all use genesis - its not some fad its real, if you do it right.

 

[Mr.Mann]

really it is chalk & cheese - thats why the old timers here all use genesis - its not some fad its real, if you do it right.

Don't know about that statement, but a lot of people do use them. The majority of liquid vendors that I talk to, and I talk to a lot, use standard dripping attys to get the most pleasure and flavor out of their own juice. That should say something considering that most of them actually sell RBAs/Genesis types. I don't like the hit on those or ViVis, but each must figure this out, and if it's right for them, by trying them.

Just my nickel.

 

[Tmax]

Mr Mann

Thank you for that - very interesting. One thing I have found in the relatively short time I've been at it is that my taste and like change.

 

[Tmax]

WOW! - Just seen this on UKVapers referring to Viva Vaping E-zine Home Page

This just puts extra on it all:

 

[tastyjuice]

Very interesting. I like how he words his experience with vaping. Thats exactly what Im looking for. A smooth, thick vaper with great taste and a small yet fulfilling throat hit.

 

[tastyjuice]

Basically the closest thing to smoking a cigarette but with out the nasty smell and taste of course LOL. Thats probably what WE are all looking for

 

[Mr.Mann]

WOW! - Just seen this on UKVapers referring to Viva Vaping E-zine Home Page

This just puts extra on it all:

Thanks for the link! I got a chance to read an interview with Tami from Mom and Pop Vapor Shop that was a pleasure.'

The "Shaping The Vape" article couldn't be further away from my likes. I like dense vapor, though no need for copious amounts, and a wallop of TH (not airy) and flavor saturation. I do like the thought he put it into it, though.

 

[Tmax]

I agree with what you have both said.

But as time goes on I think I wanna go further flavour wise than ciggies.

As a smoker for 35 years, I think I only ever really smoked about 3-5 different brands for any length of time, and that was based upon peer pressure and mostly strength. never taste.

I don't remember thinking this ciggy tastes awful, just it was too strong for me. So I guess I was evaluating throat hit !!!!

 

[CloudZ]

Thank you very much for the responses. I am using a 2.8OHMS head right now in my VIVI. The wicks are thicker, should I be using a smaller OHMS (thinner wick) so that the juice is more easily absorbed into the wick, meaning I can vap at a higher power? I apologize for all the questions, Im just trying to figure this out. I have watched a ton of videos and they really dont ever talk about these kinds of things.

The resistance shouldn't matter too much since you are setting wattage. As far as I know, the head resistance doesn't change the thickness of the wick, just the length of wire used in the coil and/or the wire gauge. It really does sound like your wick isn't fully saturated if you get burnt hits at 8 watts. Perhaps try tipping the Vivi more often to make sure the top of the wicks have plenty of juice in them. You may need to change the atomizer head if it has been burned too much. It also may be possible to clean them (soak in alcohol, rinse, towel off, and dry burn) but I am not positive.