I don't think I like Provaris....

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Hopefully that title grabbed your attention. Just today I got my hands on a Provari with a Kanger Aerotank (5.3V setting, dual coil 2 ohm atty), and I loved the flavor it produced, but my 6.6V mod running a Smoktech dual coil 2 ohm carto produced more vapor. I'm at a crossroad, because I value vapor and flavor more than anything else in a mod, leaning towards vapor. Simply put, the Provari didn't live up to the expectations I had for it. Am I used to a higher watts setting, and that's what I need to focus on? Let it be known that my 6.6V mod wouldn't even get the Aerotank to fire, that also concerns me.

Could I use a rba on my 6.6V Bolt? SHOULD I used a rba on it? I feel cartos are becoming extinct.
 

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Ok, first things first, I hope you're using high quality batteries as you're asking quite a bit of those tiny 16340s. You'll be safer with a .8 ohm dual coil and an 18650, same power but more headroom and longer battery life.

the simple fact is this. you're asking for 21 watt with that setup. the provari can only do 14.5

to answer your question, yes you can use an RBA, Yes you should use an RBA as a single high drain 18650 will be far safer at your power levels than stacking lifepo batteries.

Make sure you read up on battery safety and proper building. Like I said, the power you are asking is running all but a few 3.3v 16340s right up to their limit and that's a bad place to be, especially with a stacked setup

edit: the other option is a dna20/30, sigeli 20w, or lambo v6 if you'd prefer regulated
 
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It sounds like your not going to be satisfied with anything other than a mechanical or DNA mod running a sub-ohm rebuildable tank or drip atomizer. You are already used to a lot of watts, and these can give you more watts than you can handle.

Rebuildables require some basic information to do safely. Basic Ohm's Law, using the right batteries and knowing their amp limits, warning signs of a short.

Information Resources for Your First RBA

Battery Basics for Mods

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries


And even though I already have 3 Provari's, I'll take yours off of your hands. They are just so under-powered and undependable.
 
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Hopefully that title grabbed your attention. Just today I got my hands on a Provari with a Kanger Aerotank (5.3V setting, dual coil 2 ohm atty), and I loved the flavor it produced, but my 6.6V mod running a Smoktech dual coil 2 ohm carto produced more vapor. I'm at a crossroad, because I value vapor and flavor more than anything else in a mod, leaning towards vapor. Simply put, the Provari didn't live up to the expectations I had for it. Am I used to a higher watts setting, and that's what I need to focus on? Let it be known that my 6.6V mod wouldn't even get the Aerotank to fire, that also concerns me.

Could I use a RBA on my 6.6V Bolt? SHOULD I used a RBA on it? I feel cartos are becoming extinct.

Don't forget you're dealing with dual coil atties--a 2Ω DC atty consists of two 4Ω coils. That's pretty high. I suggest you get lower resistance DC clearos--1.5 or 1.8Ω.

When you're using a 4Ω coil at 6 volts, you're only getting 9 watts of power--but tons of vapor. :D
 

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I would not really consider my provari as a "fog machine". I have a basic K100 mechanical mod that will fog up a room with ease (with right battery) sub-ohm coils with good air flow. I didn't buy Provari for that. I bought it to have PV that I could take anywhere, adjust as needed easily, one I fully trusted that would not leave me stranded without vapor, one that wouldn't break in my pocket or with a minor drop, one that maintained my batteries well and one that projected as much about my personality as a tattoo. The Provari is one that I hold very dear for reasons other than raw amounts of fog. Just my 2 cents.
 

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    I basically dont vape anything but mechs with subohm RDAs. The one exception to that, is periodically I will run a 1.5-2ohm coil on a kayfun setup, but thats usually used if dripping is going to be really inconvienent for the day.

    I started with a Vamo and a couple Evods. I worked through every single step of vaping before getting to where I am now, and now that Im here, I finally dont need to continue searching for a satisfying vape. There is a couple reasons why I think a subohm coiled RDA beats everything else.. for me.

    1- Flavor. The biggest difference is flavor. There is no better flavor heavy vape than a dripping atomizer

    2- Lung hit/lung fill. The feeling of having that dense cloud of vapor fill my lungs, is what finally satisfied me enough to know that Ill never even think about a cigarette again. Truth be told, I had a real cig a little while back, to compare it.. and aside from gagging on the rancidity of it, it was no where NEAR as satisfying as the dense vapor from a subohm coil.

    3-Flexibility, variety, high end devices with impeccable workmanship, and yes, vapor production. There is just so much too choose from in the world of mechanicals and rebuildable atomizers. There is always a new thing coming out that is sometimes radically new, sometimes slightly new. You can really put together your own combination of devices.

    When I was vaping Cartos, Clearos, Protanks, regulated devices(including my provari), I vaped 18mg all the time. Now I vape 6mg, occasionally 12mg(but most 12mg juices are on the too strong side of things), and I never have an issue with not being satisfied, nic wise.


    Get some top end batteries. These days, I really like the Efest 30amp 18650s, and the new purple Efest 35amp 18650s. Also, get an ohm reader. Get some 28gauge wire, some cotton and some silica, and start making coils. watch tutorials on youtube to see how to safely do it. You may like micro coils and cotton, you may like regular spaced coils and silica. You may like both.

    A good, non expensive entry to the mech and rda market, would be a Magneto V2 and an Igo-W. Youll need to drill out the holes on the Igo-W to subohm, but you can also find caps just for the igo-W that already have bigger holes. You dont need to jump right into the high end devices, a Magneto and an Igo-W with a simple dual coil of 4-5wraps of 28guage will easily fog a room up and give you a huge flavor kick. If you decide its for you, then you can get some high wuality devices. (there is also clones, which are cheap.. I dont personally suggest that route, but I wont deny it IS a route you can take)
    \



    Subohm builds are a legitimate way too vape. This isnt the early days, the comments about it being too dangerous to do, and not having any flavor, or being only for cloud chasing, hold no water anymore. Build safe and use wuality batteries, and you'll be fine.. and you'll get more of a flavor explosion than any other method of vaping provides.

    /These are my opinions.
     

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    I think what I'm looking for more than anything is a vapor hit like I get from the Bolt setup, with flavor like I get from a provari/aerotank setup. Can this be achieved through a clearo? Can this be achieved on a Bolt with ANY topper?

    Not with a clearo. The factory-built wick and coils are too small for your purposes. IMHO, you'll need to use a rebuildable wick/coil to produce the vapor you're looking for.

    The Bolt is a mechanical mod, so you should be able to put a rebuildable dripper or tank on it and build a low ohm coil to produce both flavor and vapor in huge amounts. I DON'T recommend stacking batteries to do this. Use a high-drain, high-amp 18650 battery like the Sony or Efest batteries with amp limits over 20 amps continuous discharge. (See the recommended batteries in the Battery Basics for Mods blog I linked to before.)

    You will need to measure your coils with an Ohm reader or digital multimeter. You will need to use the Ohm's Law Calculator to compute whether your coil can be used safely with the battery's amp limit.

    The more Vg in your e-juice, the more vapor you'll get.
    _____

    I can get great flavor and very decent vapor production with my Kayfun on my Provari, but I can't get the vapor production that a mechanical with a sub-ohm coil can. Then again, I have my wick/coil set up more for flavor than vapor production.
     
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    I basically dont vape anything but mechs with subohm RDAs. The one exception to that, is periodically I will run a 1.5-2ohm coil on a kayfun setup, but thats usually used if dripping is going to be really inconvienent for the day.

    I started with a Vamo and a couple Evods. I worked through every single step of vaping before getting to where I am now, and now that Im here, I finally dont need to continue searching for a satisfying vape. There is a couple reasons why I think a subohm coiled RDA beats everything else.. for me.

    1- Flavor. The biggest difference is flavor. There is no better flavor heavy vape than a dripping atomizer

    2- Lung hit/lung fill. The feeling of having that dense cloud of vapor fill my lungs, is what finally satisfied me enough to know that Ill never even think about a cigarette again. Truth be told, I had a real cig a little while back, to compare it.. and aside from gagging on the rancidity of it, it was no where NEAR as satisfying as the dense vapor from a subohm coil.

    3-Flexibility, variety, high end devices with impeccable workmanship, and yes, vapor production. There is just so much too choose from in the world of mechanicals and rebuildable atomizers. There is always a new thing coming out that is sometimes radically new, sometimes slightly new. You can really put together your own combination of devices.

    When I was vaping Cartos, Clearos, Protanks, regulated devices(including my provari), I vaped 18mg all the time. Now I vape 6mg, occasionally 12mg(but most 12mg juices are on the too strong side of things), and I never have an issue with not being satisfied, nic wise.


    Get some top end batteries. These days, I really like the Efest 30amp 18650s, and the new purple Efest 35amp 18650s. Also, get an ohm reader. Get some 28gauge wire, some cotton and some silica, and start making coils. watch tutorials on youtube to see how to safely do it. You may like micro coils and cotton, you may like regular spaced coils and silica. You may like both.

    A good, non expensive entry to the mech and rda market, would be a Magneto V2 and an Igo-W. Youll need to drill out the holes on the Igo-W to subohm, but you can also find caps just for the igo-W that already have bigger holes. You dont need to jump right into the high end devices, a Magneto and an Igo-W with a simple dual coil of 4-5wraps of 28guage will easily fog a room up and give you a huge flavor kick. If you decide its for you, then you can get some high wuality devices. (there is also clones, which are cheap.. I dont personally suggest that route, but I wont deny it IS a route you can take)
    \



    Subohm builds are a legitimate way too vape. This isnt the early days, the comments about it being too dangerous to do, and not having any flavor, or being only for cloud chasing, hold no water anymore. Build safe and use wuality batteries, and you'll be fine.. and you'll get more of a flavor explosion than any other method of vaping provides.

    /These are my opinions.

    ^^ This. (It's the only waaaaaaay)
    *blows large cloud and smiles :D
     
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