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In my experience the flavoring are different from every company you get them from. Some are stronger then others but I dont really ever go over using 10% flavoring in mixes no matter what company they are from. Droppers are too drastic a change from one to another so I rely on medical syringes for measuring since they are extremely accurate. Just my .02 cents
 

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In my experience the flavoring are different from every company you get them from. Some are stronger then others but I dont really ever go over using 10% flavoring in mixes no matter what company they are from. Droppers are too drastic a change from one to another so I rely on medical syringes for measuring since they are extremely accurate. Just my .02 cents
I have syringes I will use from now on with the flavors. The size of the drops were very tiny, so I don't imagine I went above 20% flavor in this mix.
 

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It looks like you have 37% flavors in the mix, which is very high for something like caramel, plus you've used a 'contaminated' bottle, and then you've mixed nearly 10ml up as the first batch of a trial mix.

None of these are a great idea :)

If you get 20 drops per ml then you have 3.5ml of flavoring:
4ml + 2ml + 3.5ml = 9.5ml
37% is flavor

It may be better to do it like this:

1. Clean any bottles thoroughly before use.
2. Mix ONLY 1ml of any new recipe to test it fully, before mixing large quantities.
3. Start with 5% flavor and work up. However some flavors, like menthol, are extremely powerful and you need to start at 1%.
4. It is very common to find that the flavor is different the next day, usually stronger, since it takes a little time for the mix to 'cook'.

Also note that something like a synthetic caramel flavor contains numerous chemical flavors, and usually a flavor booster that is similar in effect to MSG in food, and possibly preservatives, that may potentially be problematic for some people. In theory, these things are safe for most people, in low concentrations - but that is no guarantee that they will be OK for you, especially in high quantities such as you describe. 37% is very high indeed.

Clean the bottle, mix 1ml only, start with very little flavor and work up. If you get a problem immediately, then one of the base ingredients is a problem for you, not the flavoring.
 

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You might try Scubabatdan's Calculator at the top of the page. I use a lot of PA flavorings, usually at the high end to the recommended range. Another thing that really helped me was PureVapes Flavor Guide http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/74109-guide-diy-flavoring.html. This is where the recommended ranges that I referred to come from.

I just measured the drops per mL using a PA little white dropper and got 24 drops per mL. So 70 drops is about 2.9 mL. That's about 30 percent of your total mix. You could try taking 3mL of the juice that you've made and add 1.5mL of base and that should bring your flavor down to about 20 percent. See if its better when it is less concentrated. Which flavor are you using? Maybe I have tried it. Oh, Are you using the little white dropper?
 
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I've been doing DIY for about a month and yes I have only been vaping for 3 1/2 mos but I spent 2 mo researching and reading up on the subject...Now bare in mind I know I still qualify as a vaping noob I'm just trying to help.

I use 1ml syringes to measure my mixtures so I'm at least marginally sure I can replicate my mixtures...let alone I don't wish to od on nic...Did that once at beginning trying to fight off urges to smoke...VERY UNPLEASANT

I would mix down your juice w pg or vg and give it a day then try again if you have the same result toss it likely that batch is contaminated....who knows what.....the other option is maybe your comming down w something?

thats all opinion and speculation though...I hope you are feeling better though...
 

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I cut some of my juices with USP Glycerine, and got some slight dizziness...
Not sure if I would describe as nauseous... But definitely different than the normal hit/buzz

Since then, i've been using PV only juice from Liberty Flights with no issues.

How about mixing a small amount of just one or the other....
ie, Process of elimination, to determine if it is your VG/PV supply.
 

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The link for the PG you had provided a year ago has been removed from the Web site, but the VG link is still active.

Try and use another PG from a different source, just to eliminate the problem.

Suppliers could make mistakes, and it happened to me before. You order something and you receive something else; or, it could be the wrong item in the wrong bottle.

The supplier you provided has two different PG and VG grades, one is industrial and the other is USP.

Here are the links,
Propylene Glycol USP
Technical Grade Propylene Glycol

Double check the label on your container:
For Industrial grade they have, Product Code: PROPYLENEGLYCOLTECHGRADE
and for USP food grade they have: Product Code: PROPYLENE_GLYCOL_USP

I personally have used VG's from many difference sources; all USP. All of them gave me nausea. My medicine cabinet is loaded with glycerin from every place I could buy glycerin from. Maybe I am just allergic to glycerin. Although, I bough ready-made juice one time that had 30% VG and it was okay. Now, I vape only 100% PG, I just cannot handle DIY VG.
 
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