Yesterday I was forced to make a choice... I gave up my PP for another Ody and the patience to wait for the VIR... I like my 18650 & 18350 batteries... I am not so fond of the 18500 series as my 18350's seem to last just as long... anyway I figured the GGTS/ODY is perfect and now have my ideal set up with only a need for the VIR in the future... I dont think my hands need anything smaller than a GGTS/ODY running a 18350... I gave my number to the first person that asked for it I felt that was fair... I guess I just figured that my daily vape GGTS and duel ODY set up cant be beat and is perfect for me with a spare GGTS/ODY should the unthinkable ever happen.... So lets get the VIR for GGTS hurry up Patent office....