I have developed ulcerative colitis, a disease of nonsmokers

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geeker

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I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis this week, through colonoscopy and biopsies.

Interestingly, this is a diesase of nonsmokers, or people who have recently quit smoking. Smokers do not suffer from UC. It is beacuse nicotine protects the bowel somehow (in theory, anyway)

This is the third time in my life I have had these symptoms. Both of the other times I had quit smoking. The first time was about 16 years ago, and the second time about 8 years ago. Both of these times I began smoking again, partly because of an assault of stress. My symptoms went away.

There have been some people with UC who have found symptom relief with nicotine patches. Of course, no doctor will recommend starting smoking to someone with UC.

I have been vaping whenever the urge strikes since September. Apparently I am not taking in enough nicotine. I am going to increase my nic intake (i've been using 12-24 mg)

All of this is shocking to me in its timing, and I don't believe the quitting smoking/UC symptom onset can be coincidence, since it is the third time.
 

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Sorry to hear about that Geeker. I have heard of UC but what is it exactly? Are you in alot of pain?

I agree, up your nic intake a little at a time. You don't want to cause nic poisoning on top of what you already have. I just read a post by Cemetary Man here on the board last night about his experience at the Hospital ER from vaping too much. Scary stuff. 8-o

Who would think that quitting smoking would produce adverse side affects?

Keep us informed of your results.
 

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    I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis this week, through colonoscopy and biopsies.

    Interestingly, this is a diesase of nonsmokers, or people who have recently quit smoking. Smokers do not suffer from UC. It is beacuse nicotine protects the bowel somehow (in theory, anyway)

    This is the third time in my life I have had these symptoms. Both of the other times I had quit smoking. The first time was about 16 years ago, and the second time about 8 years ago. Both of these times I began smoking again, partly because of an assault of stress. My symptoms went away.

    There have been some people with UC who have found symptom relief with nicotine patches. Of course, no doctor will recommend starting smoking to someone with UC.

    I have been vaping whenever the urge strikes since September. Apparently I am not taking in enough nicotine. I am going to increase my nic intake (i've been using 12-24 mg)

    All of this is shocking to me in its timing, and I don't believe the quitting smoking/UC symptom onset can be coincidence, since it is the third time.

    Somewhere in these threads is one dealing with UC. I believe it is also in the Health section. People talked about how much nicotine they are using and how it is helping.
    Good Luck to you. Hope you are well soon!!
     

    geeker

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    Thanks for your well wishes. The symptoms are too unpleasant to mention on the boards. However, the point I was trying to make is that by vaping, I am not getting the amount of nicotine I though I was getting, indeed, I wonder if I am getting any at all, since the events are the same as when I quit smoking and was not replacing the nicotine.
     

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    The reason that quiting smoking and /or not smoking correlates with UC is that nicotine, or more specifically one of the components of nicotine is a powerful anti-inflammatory that seems to act strongly against nuerological inflammation. It is also being studied heavily for it's use in Alheimers and Parkinsons as well as RA...Rhuemaoid Arthritis. The patch is used because it is the most effective manner of delivery. Nicotine is unuaually good at being absorbed through the skin. Which btw is why it can be so dangerous. An equal amount spilled on the skin vs being eaten the skin spill will kill you faster. "Pure" nicotine dermal exposure will kill you in a matter of seconds. But so will exposure to the pure active ingredient of alot of drugs and compounds.

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    Epidemiological evidence suggests that ulcerative colitis is a disease of nonsmokers, while Crohn's disease is a disease of smokers. The relative risk of developing ulcerative colitis is not only greater in nonsmokers, in addition there appears to be a rebound effect in smokers who quit, with the heaviest (ex-)smokers increasing their relative risk of the disease the most. This factor poses an ethical dilemma for health professionals giving advice on stopping smoking, which may thus have a serious detrimental effect on the health of some patients. Nicotine is believed to be the pharmacological ingredient of tobacco that is responsible for this beneficial effect and several clinical trials using nicotine have demonstrated it to be an effective therapeutic agent in the treatment of ulcerative colitis. Although the aetiology of ulcerative colitis is unclear, current research using nicotine-based products has produced some interesting clues, together with the possibility of some form of therapeutic treatment based on nicotine administration.


    There is unfortunately no data about vaping and the anti-inflammatory properties of nicotine and the data that is out there about vaping in general and the amount of nicotine it supplies are wildly inconsistent. If Google these words you will find a great amount of recent and current studies being done on this topic:
    nicotine + anti inflammatory (leave out the + sign)

    Do not be afraid of your doctor. Print out these studies and take them to him/her and go ahead and get the patch. I am not a doctor so this is just my personal opinion. Hopefully your Dr will agree to at least support your decision and chart the course of your symptons in correlation to your use of the patch. More and more it looks like vaping is NOT going to be a reliable delivery system or even a safe one given that so many of the popular e-juice sellers out there are literally cooking raw tobacco at home and using the juice as a flavoring. Nice thought but there really are several carcinogens and powerfully harmful chemicals in tobacco. That is why Dekang has spent millions of dollars on their filtration and purification systems and that is the point of buying your juice from a totally transparent company that lists USP pharmaciuetcal grade nicotine as their source. Unfortunately this is going to be one of those situations that fits the cliche'...if it sounds too good to be true...it probably is. I'm sure all you homemade e-juice suppliers are going to be up in arms about someone saying this but the truth is we just don't know alot about what chemicals are harmful,in what form are they harmful, who are they harmful to,(IE plants ,animals,humans) etc? So if you want safety and good taste we might be out of luck. I do not intend to derail this thread and make it an argument about juice suppliers or nicotine safety in one form versus another. I just wanted to try and help this lady and give her clear consise information she can use.
    I hope it helps

    LK

    18 years as a Licensed Pest Control Advisor and countless hours of personal research is what qualifies me to feel comforatable making these statements :)
     

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    I can't remember his name but there is a guy on this site who started using e-cigs for his syptoms. I have chrohn's and it's the opposite, smoking is bad for it. I wonder if snuff or snuss would help or is it one of the other 4,000 chemicals.

    I still keep my food journal and have noticed that any changes in diet do take me a while to adjust too.

    Good luck, I feel your pain.
     

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    Hi Geeker,

    Sorry to hear you have UC, I`ve also been suffering with it since last August when I was still smoking 20+ own rolled cigarettes a day, it is primarily a non smokers condition, but not exclusively, as someone mentioned above the anti-inflamatory properties of nicotine do mostly keep at bay, there are quite a few other factors that can effect it such as stress, diet, alcohol intake, climate etc. also.

    Common thinking is that it`s a gene that is passed through families affecting a few here and there(my father has it) but this hasn`t been proven either way as far as I know.

    There are a fair few colitis forums out there full of people dealing with the same thing as oursleves, and some good advice can be sought.
    I sometimes look at this one
    Ulcerative Colitis Forum • Index page
    it`s a UK based board but everyones welcome I`m sure!

    I`ve only had the sigmoidoscomy to date and am not looking forward to the colonoscopy which they want to do soon :-(

    I`m currently taking oral steroids which have settled me down a bit, but one of the side effects is that I`m covered in acne! I look like a pimply youth again!8-o

    I hope you get some relief soon, if you need a chat, feel free to PM me.
     

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    I also have UC (in remission) & have suffered from the condition for approximately 25 years!

    The severity of UC has varied throughout my life, however from the first ever symptoms to date, flareups have always occurred a few weeks after quitting regular cigarettes.

    Of course, when I was first diagnosed with UC, I had no idea it was linked to Nicotine, however after quitting approximately 4-5 times in my lifetime, it became quite obvious that this was indeed the case.

    Basically, on every occasion, the symptoms have completely disappeared within days of starting to smoke again - amazing really!

    Anyway, I've been Vaping now for approximately 3 weeks & have again quit analogues completely.

    So far so good :rolleyes:

    Fingers crossed - time will tell.........
     

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    omg, I wonder if this may be something I need to look into... I've had digestive problems since quitting smoking/starting vaping, I thought the timing was just a coincidence, or maybe a sensitivity to artificial flavors/colorings or maybe even chemicals leaching out of the plastic e-juice bottles. No way I'm going to start smoking again!!!
     

    Katmar

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    omg, I wonder if this may be something I need to look into... I've had digestive problems since quitting smoking/starting vaping, I thought the timing was just a coincidence, or maybe a sensitivity to artificial flavors/colorings or maybe even chemicals leaching out of the plastic e-juice bottles. No way I'm going to start smoking again!!!

    In most cases, it may just be that you are taking in more air with the ecig than with an analog. That can cause digestive problems.
    Other times, I believe it can be certain flavor sensitivity.
    Nicotine actually HELPS UC.
    If you are feeling really bad, I suggest you talk to your doctor.
     
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    Txslady

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    I was diagnosed with UC 10/2009 during my routine 3 year colonoscopy. I had symptoms for several years and was always told it was IBS. I have been tested for ulcerative, chrons and celiac, all were negative. At this point is is being ruled IBD. I have smoked for 20 years and am taking Librax for the symtoms. I am making the switch to ecigs and pray the symptoms don't get worse. I currently smoke light cigs so maybe switching then upping the nicotine will help, will see. FYI: I developed my problems after my gallbladder was removed in 1/2005, that was a bad time for me, to many details to put here.

    Shannon
     

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    Smoking is recognised as an effective therapy for some patients with conditions in the inflammatory bowel disease group. For example, one treatment regime for patients with Irritable Bowel Syndrome is two cigarettes per day, which is apparently just as effective for some patients as drug therapy.

    Ulcerative Colitis normally presents in a patient with one or more close family members who have the condition, and who is a non-smoker. UC belongs to the auto-immune disease group.

    Although the cause is not known (apart from the fact that it is almost certainly genetic) and there is no known cure, there are thought to be environmental triggers that cause the patient to develop the symptoms at a given time. Smoking cessation may be one of those causes although there is no accepted proof for any given trigger. It is possible (or probable) that different triggers affect different patients.

    There is no proof that nicotine therapy works for a significant number of patients who have already started to show symptoms in UC, although in UC a range of different approaches may be beneficial to different patients. Even dietary therapies cannot be shown to be effective in a significant number of patients, despite the fact that this is a serious chronic bowel condition.

    However I found that a family member with long-term UC found benefit from nicotine therapy combined with complete avoidance of tapwater, and drinking / cooking only with bottled water, after a move to an urban area and subsequent worsening of the condition with no other environmental or dietary change showed that drinking water constituents were a significant factor. This was proved by subsequent experimentation.

    This patient was able to completely cease all maintenance medication (Salazopyrin) after 25 years of the condition with symptoms that were occasionally severe. The patient subsequently returned to a very low maintenance dosage and symptoms were 99% absent.

    As a side issue you might find that avoiding certain types of processed foods is of benefit. You might also consider that the only known way to induce UC in lab rats was found to be ingestion of a type of carrageen (aka carrageenan), a foodstuff emulsifier additive which is still allowed in many countries (E407).

    It should be noted by new patients that this is a serious illness that undoubtedly killed a proportion of sufferers before drug therapies were developed to combat it. If untreated the colon ulcers become worse and gangrene results. Even now there is no cure, and side effects seen by some patients include joint degradation (eg hip problems) and eyesight issues such as iritis ('UVitis'). UC patients should ensure that UV400 tinted glasses are worn in very bright sunlight, and if eye surface pain and degraded sight is experienced ('snow blindness'), a doctor is consulted immediately. The fix is simple, just two types of eyedrops.

    All you can do is find the drug therapy that suits you. The medicine simply treats the symptoms, there is no cure. You might find that other therapies help but your doctor, rightly, cannot support this approach since there is no proven research that supports this (as far as I am aware). The standard treatment is 4 to 8 500mg Salazopyrin (aka Sulphasalazin) tablets per day, depending on severity of symptoms, and up to 40mg Prednisolone (aka Prednisone) (steroid) in 5mg tablets per day when symptoms are severe (sickness and bleeding). Various other topical therapies are proven effective (eg steroid enema).

    My advice is that you ensure that all tablets are of the EC type, enteric coated, as experience shows these are more effective since they deliver in the colon where the problem is, not the upper GI tract. The correct names of the tablets are therefore:
    Salazopyrin 500mg EN
    Prednisolone 5mg EC

    For some reason Salazopyrin enteric coated has a suffix of EN and not EC, which no doctor or pharmacist has ever been able to explain to me. Please note that some doctors less experienced with this condition may initially prescribe non-coated tablets, but this is incorrect.

    If the symptoms cannot be stopped or become worse due to drug tolerance (a common occurrence), the only solution is a colostomy of some sort. In younger patients the surgeon, if knowledgable in the procedure, will try to create a Park's Pouch or similar, where the colon is removed and the small intestine then connected to the rectum, with a pouch created by cleverly folding and stitching the last section of the small intestine. This gives a pseudo-normal result, in contrast to a colostomy which involves a front abdominal wall exterior bag which needs emptying. Older patients are less likely to be considered for the pouch type of procedures.

    There is an elevated risk of bowel cancer in patients with over 15 years UC. This might be taken into account if symptoms are hard to control after a few years, since a colostomy removes that problem. Not many survive bowel cancer.

    This advice was given by an expert patient, not a doctor or pharmacist. You must take professional advice, and wide research of your own is as usual not a bad idea. The fact that avoidance of tap water, and low-dose nicotine therapy, worked for one patient does not mean it will work for you.
     
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