I have so many questions, and can't find any answers. helllppp!?!

[fioredellanotte]

I had a whole post explaining the situation written out, but it glitched and didn't post. SO:

I have an Ego C Twist battery (650), been using tanks similar to this: Vision eGo Clearomizer 2.5-2.9 Ohm, Yellow (haven't been able to find the exact tanks I got from the shop locally, but that's pretty damn close and I also ordered and have been using a couple of these as well)

I had some battery issues, but I think that was just a charging issue to start with. After about 3 days I managed to essentially MELT my wicks. Tasted like horrible burnt plastic, and actually hurt my lungs for about 3 hours. I didn't know anything about wicks, so after some googling, discovered you can pull em to the side if they get a little burnt as a temporary fix. I barely tugged and they shredded. Couldn't find a way to replace the wicks, so I ended up with 3 more tanks. I've been running at 3.2v (the ones I ordered on MadVapes, seem to only be built for that.)

Thanks to a handy info card from MV, I discovered the whole certain tanks at certain voltages (derp) and what was designed for what, but I can't seem to match any to what I really need?


Basic questions I've got:

-I know everyone's different, but Tank's seem like the quick, easy, painless route. I have no idea what I'm doing, but from what little I really understand about the vaping process, they seem like the way to go. Am I completely wrong? (I am a dunce on all of this at the moment. Even when people start using terminology other than what they handed me at the vape shop I got my set up at, I'm LOST... I'm slowly figuring it out though, I think..?)

-Why the HELL do my wicks keep tasting burnt?
I keep running them at low voltages (they seem to be built for it. If I accidentally hit my voltage up too high, they start tasting a bit crisp.. so I knock em back down as soon as I notice it.) I did read a few things on cleaning/changing wicks fairly regularly/not running too low on juice. I'm still a little lost on the cleaning other than what I can best describe as a good rinse? The stuff I've got doesn't seem like it's a set up I can fully disassemble and put back together. I'm fairly certain the tanks I have aren't designed to be used "long term" and can't really have the wicks changed. I'm probably wrong.....

-Is the Vivi Nova the answer to my problems?
It seems like the only tank that is build to be easily replace parts/ use with variable voltage.

 

[Hulamoon]

Did you get official eGo products? Also can you look at your order again and confirm the ohm of the clearomizer/tank that you received? Perhaps the battery is defective. You might want to take it back to the store and ask them to run a voltage test on it just to ensure its not a battery defect thats running the volts mugh higher than the dial is indiciating. Get back to us and let us know!

 

[TheVap3Junkie]

Tip the tanks to keep the wicks wet this is a must with any wicking style tank even the vivis. the vivi novas are probably more reliable than the other ones but you still have to tip to keep the wicks wet.

 

[TheVap3Junkie]

most of the ego clearomizers are disposable so you arent wrong about that. only exception I know of is the redux.

 

[NancyR]

What juice are you using, high vg takes longer to wick, also are you tilting your twist to help wick or are you a vertical vaper. And do you chain vape, you may not be giving the wicks time enough to properly wick.

I happen to like the vivi nova over other things I have used before getting into rebuildables, but not everyone does. Also I recoiled the heads of mine with cotton wicks as there can be issues with the silica wicks.

 

[fioredellanotte]

I did get offical eGo batteries/chargers. The tanks I got with the kit I purchased came from a store locally. There's nothing saying if it even has a brand, although the construction looks fairly similar to the vivi mini, just less... replaceable. The other tanks I linked are identical (aside from color) to the ones I purchased online. Those appear to be disposable.

I did think there was a possibility there was an issue with the batteries.. When we got them home, one was working just fine, one acted dead. I put it on a charger and within 10-15 minutes it was up and running. It wouldn't work at all on one of the tanks, but would on the other. Was a bit bizarre, but since then we haven't had that issue at all.

 

[fioredellanotte]

What juice are you using, high vg takes longer to wick, also are you tilting your twist to help wick or are you a vertical vaper. And do you chain vape, you may not be giving the wicks time enough to properly wick.

I happen to like the vivi nova over other things I have used before getting into rebuildables, but not everyone does. Also I recoiled the heads of mine with cotton wicks as there can be issues with the silica wicks.

I've been purchasing Juice through the shop I got the kits at. If I'm not mistaken the guy said they are primarily PG based, but I'm not 100%. I do constantly be sure to "dampen" my wicks. In fact people come into my office and stare at me because I'm sitting there rolling my juice around in my tank >.> Lol. I on occasion chain vape. I try not to, and through out the day I'm fairly good about not doing it. Some days it just happens, though. I suppose here lately I have been a BIT worse about doing that. Would that cause the burning?

 

[NancyR]

I've been purchasing Juice through the shop I got the kits at. If I'm not mistaken the guy said they are primarily PG based, but I'm not 100%. I do constantly be sure to "dampen" my wicks. In fact people come into my office and stare at me because I'm sitting there rolling my juice around in my tank >.> Lol. I on occasion chain vape. I try not to, and through out the day I'm fairly good about not doing it. Some days it just happens, though. I suppose here lately I have been a BIT worse about doing that. Would that cause the burning?

Yes chain vaping can cause the wicks to burn because they are not getting enough time to wick they juice up to the coil meaning the wick is the only thing there to burn, higher vg juices take longer to wick properly.

 

[Ryedan]

fioredellanotte, there are a lot of different Vision Clearomizers being sold out there. I'm in Canada and use the ones from HappyVaper here. These are the older ones that have the short wicks. I generally get about 6 - 8 tanks through them, clean them (dry burn) and reuse them for weeks before they wear out. YMMV. If you want information about cleaning them just ask.

These clearomizers have I believe silica wicks. I know they can take a lot of dry burns, which are HOT! I know from experience that some of the clearos out there can not take dry burns (the wicks seem to deteriorate - sounds to me like the ones you have). I am convinced that the clearo design does not handle high voltage well. I use mine with Twists and LavaTubes at about 4.0V or lower (generally lower) and get great vaping performance from them. Again, YMMV. The battery does not matter here, this is all about the juice delivery system.

I think you are on the right path with tanks of one kind or the other - at least this is the way I am going right now. The ViviNova has been getting rave reviews here ans elsewhere the last while and I am thinking to try it sometime soon. From what I have read, we probably could not go wrong with them.

 

[fioredellanotte]

I happen to like the vivi nova over other things I have used.

Going back to my complete inexperience... the things I have used appear to be tanks with the built in atty's? (I will probably screw this all up... lmao) I have ordered some things labeled as tanks online, but appear to be a cartomizer?
I suppose my question here is:

The eGo tanks are rather plug and play: attach to battery, insert juice, vape. with other tanks, like the Vivi, are there other parts I need to purchase? 1. I'm a lazy vaper. 2. I feel as though I know what I'm looking for/need BUT everytime I go to order something online, I have a really hard time doing it for fear it's the wrong thing. A majority of my confusion around this comes from a friend of mine who insisted I needed to have a tank. I kept trying to explain to him that I had one, but when I showed him, he was completely confused. He showed me a few random parts and and showed me a plastic tubing? which appeared to have the same parts as my tank inside, but didn't really attach to the battery. I assumed that was more a cartomizer, which required an atomizer? I'm not sure I have my ecig anatomy correct. >.> Is something like the vivi "plug and play" as well?

 

[Shipmister]

Yep I would say vivi nova is the way to go. I have the mini and regular version. I haven't had any problems with mine. I do clean them at least every other day though.

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[fioredellanotte]

From what I have read, we probably could not go wrong with them.

^^ THAT IS WHAT I NEED. Haha. Part of my ... frustration is normally I research more. I'd looked into a few products, but this was a "Referred by a friend to a shop. Loved it. Bought it." I didn't ask any questions, because.. I was just so sold. Looking to find answers online... like the anatomy of an ecig.. what part is what, what does what has been a been of a nightmare. There's so many Mods/customizations it seems there's not one answer. Everyone prefers their own thing.

So now that I'm having issues, I've got a ton of time/ decent chunk of money in it.. AND everytime I break something, my boyfriend goes and buys a pack of analogs while I get it fixed (mostly because I can't stand them, and he can). So if it's fool proof, I'm COMPLETELY sold.

 

[klynnn]

Call your supplier and find what pg/vg % your juice is. It can make a difference with wicking issues. You don't have to change wicks in a vivi nova unless you want to. The head is a screw on piece that holds the wick and coil and attaches to the inner part of the tank. It can be removed and cleaned. It can also be replaced with a new head for around 2.50. Your wicks shouldn't be getting burnt they are silica. Your juice can burn though at too high voltage. The clearos you pictured are most often called stardusts and appears you don't have the rebuildable type. I never had any luck with those and they leak. A nova should def help. On my twist I use the 2.4ohm head at 4.0 to 4.2 volts. I never have dry hits or burnt tasting juice.

 

[klynnn]

A PBusardo Tutorial - Vivi Nova Cleaning & Rebuilding - YouTube
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/21069-ecf-abbreviations-101-a.html

 

[Hulamoon]

Hi Fiore, It does get confusing very very fast. Let's see. An atomizer is the thing that creates the vapor. It gets hot. Then you have the "cartomizer". That's the thing that looks like a black tube. It has wadding stuffed into it and has the atomizer built in. You fill it by soaking the wadding. The clearomizer has the atomizer built in, but no wadding. It has a couple of cotton strings in the atomizer that wick the liquid. One thing to remember with both. VG high liquids take a few minutes to absorb into wadding, or the wick when filling for the first time. With a clearomizer, only fill the cartridge 2/3 of the maximum, and roll that juice around while the PV is in your hand just to make sure those wicks are nice and wet. Personally, I LOVE plug n play and am not into gadgetry and rewicking and whatnot. So I prefer these. Kanger T2 (eGo CC) Clearomizer The nice thing is that the atomizer (or coil) as people call them is replaceable so when your nearly blowing your eyeballs out of their sockets and there's no vapor, heat or nothin' and it isn't your battery thats dead, you just unscrew the mouthpiece of the clearo and replace this bit - Kanger T2 Replacement heads (btw these particular links do show decent prices, so I'd suggest getting 2 or 3 complete ones and a pack of coils). Next up: the "ohm" on a clearomizer for most 3.7 volt batteries (ego twists and similar batteres) is best at 2.2 ohm - 2.4 ohm.Another thought I had is that when you vape, the best technique is this - think of your dad or grandad sitting on the porch on a sunday afternoon smoking his pipe. To get a good technique, you need to take two nice leisurely pulls from the PV that will fill your mouth for a few seconds enjoying the flavor and inhale if needed, and then blow out via nose or mouth or both. - You cant vape it like a cigarette or you will get that burning effect. So vape it more like a pipe, more leisurely fashion. This may be why you need 10-15 minutes with a PV vs smoking a cigarette equates to just 10 drags in 1.5 minutes. I apologize if this is too simplified but sometimes we can whack newcomers on the head with a million different things and not cover the basics. Hope even a little bit of this is helpful to you or someone else reading it.