I have spent sooo much!

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Zutankhamun

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I'm trying to take the control back but it's becoming expensive. Yeah I'm a lil bit under you DingerCPA. Bout the same in regs. Bout 5 clone mechs which I don't really like that much. Got an authentic Gus which I'm enjoying and also the Kiss in the post. The tanks are silly though. Like 20-25 sub tanks which are a bit meh. Love tighter draws but only one kayfun. I've done it all wrong:(
 

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Im worried about these regulations and have spent £464/$669 in the last 2 weeks!
Who has beaten me?

I became concerned about the government's "involvement" years ago and decided to learn how to make the NET I so enjoy. I began stockpiling nic and other critical supplies when the government began demonizing vaping through their propaganda arm (main stream media), at that point their intent became crystal clear. I already have several gallons of 100mg nic stored at -10F in a dedicated freezer but I mix for and supply several people. Everything I have stockpiled was purchased while on sale. I anticipate that I may be helping more friends/family out once "tobacco level" taxes hit (and they certainly will) so I'll add to the stockpile in the coming months taking advantage of any good sales that come along.
 
I've been spending $700 ea month, and that will continue through until they ban everything. My list:

NEXT 90 DAYS - OR ASAP


## Deep Storage Freezer, no defrost may be the best bet


## (NEXT 90 DAYS: BUY ALL) Label maker, mixing bottles, nicotine test kits, battery powered drill FWD/REV/ADJ Speed, fishing tackel swivels, Argon gas spray

- For mixing bottles you are looking for:
- I use glass bottles from specialtybottles.com for storage of my unflavored 35-100 mg VG nic juice. The ones with eurodropper inserts, since I use them for syringe dispensing. Just stick an 18 gauge blunt needle through the center hole. With these inserts, accidental spill, which is a DISASTER with 100 mg juice, is eliminated. I use 50 mL bottles (although given how fast I go through them, I should have used 30 mL), fill them almost to the rim, put in the insert and screw on the cap.

I store them in the freezer. As long as they are brought to room temp before opening them, the liquid will not absorb much water from the air. I pull out one bottle at a time for juice making. I just pulled out a 100 mg VG bottle stored since January, and it has not even discolored compared to the original very slightly yellow, as in VERY slightly yellow. In my freezer, PG and VG do not freeze (I have some DV PG juice stored too), nor do they expand. VG becomes VERY thick, like rubber cement at the temp of my freezer. I have not tested for nic content, but the juices I make now are in my opinion no less potent than when I got the juice fresh.

- BUY at Binnys: Argon gas spray. It is more dense than air and you spray it in the bottle. It allegedly settles on top of the liquid you are trying to preserve.

- 30ml(buy 20)/60ml(buy 20) for vaping
- 30ml(buy 4)/60ml(buy 4)/125ml(buy 4)/250ml(buy 4) to store nic/pg/vg. Don't take a 500ml bottle of nic out of freezer and use just 30ml or less!
- 125ml(buy 4) and 250ml(buy 4) for mixing before you knock it down to 30ml/60ml for use in vaping

- If you are tired of giving it all you have to syringe 30 mL's of VG, try using a 60 cc catheter tip syringe. You'll save your arm and be doing your happy dance!

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 6+ - 500ml, 100mg/ml) ORDER MORE NUDE NICOTINE (GALLONS)
- For 30 years, if vaping at 12mg/ml, you'll need about 20 liters.
- Rotate PG/VG purchases. Nicotine may hold up better in PG.
- VG mixes with PG better if you add the VG into your PG, rather than the other way around.

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 1 liter ea) ORDER PG/VG
- tractor supply carries PG, it's used to treat cattle feed. Yes, it says for animals only but is USP the last I checked. One of the Mods (or ex mods, at one time I think he came back: Elendil) always used PG from the feed store.

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: start ordering) ORDER FLAVORS (start making juice to learn what it takes)
- Hangsen is definitely your best bet. They make the best tobacco flavors by far!
- Technically no, flavors do not go bad like you think of with food or drinks. Flavors do change over time having an effect on the taste of the flavor. We suggest that flavors be used within 9 months of purchase for best results. As far as storage goes, flavors are best stored in glass over plastic (which is why we sell our 10, 30, and 120 mL bottles of flavorings in glass) because flavors can react with the plastic and ruin both the plastic and the flavor. Also, they should be stored in a cool, dark place (not the refrigerator).


## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 2 RDA, 5 RDA parts packages) ORDER 4+ TWISTED MESSES V2, ORDER THE REPLACEMENT PARTS KITS

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 2) ORDER 4+ SIGELEI 213

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 1) ORDER 2+ SIGELEI 26650 MODS

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 1 lb) ORDER SS316L & NICHROME WIRE BY THE LB. (whatever is rqd for claptons, twisted(2 and 4 strand), std wires)

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) ORDER 10+ LIGHTNING VAPES: CLAPTON: watch the coil gauge

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) ORDER 10+ PRE FABBED COIL SETS - UD FERRIS WHEEL IN KANTHAL A1

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) SPOOL TAMER (SEE: Browser Vape/_ BUY)

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 2) BATTERY CHARGERS: buy the very best 4 battery, 18650/26650

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 5) ORDER 5+ ASPIRE CLEITO AND AT LEAST 10 BOXES SS 316L ATOMIZERS

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 1) ORDER ONE, Scott's Mods "The Vet," a dual 18650/26650 parallel mechanical box mod.

## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 8+ 18650) (18650: LG HG2, Sony VTC5 or Samsung 30Q from Orbtronic, Illumn or RTDVapor) (26650: AWT Yellow, Brillpower Green, or Basen Black) BATTERIES 18650 & 4 PLASTIC CONTAINERS (18650 and 26650)

## ORDER 2ND COILMASTER 521, 2 MATs, 2 COIL REMOVAL TOOLS(YELLOW), 2 VAPE CARRYING POUCHES, 2 v3 coil wrapping tools,
 

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I've been stock piling since Nov. of last year. I did add a few more mods on Thursday(Noisy Cricket, eVic mini, Reuleuax RX200S) and a Gear RDA. Hopefully soon, I can just concentrate on adding more nic, flavoring and wires. My theory is, even if HB 2058 passes, taxes will be astronomical. Not to mention, flavored e-liquids still wouldn't be safe. I'll be damned, if I'm forced to choose between tobacco and menthol only.
 

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I don't do Tobacco Flavors - I quit smoking and never really thought ashtray was that good anyway. :lol:
Personally, have had no problem with or noticed any change in Flavors Delivered from TFA in Plastic bottles and refrigerated for long term use. I separate out what I will need into Glass Vials for a month at a time and keep in cool storage.

Got the 4 Gal. VG on the way and may get the flavors ordered this week. Budget isn't what it once was, but I have a little put back just for this situation.

This ole Man will be enjoying Chocolate Mint, Butterscotch and Ice Cream Flavors for years.

I Vote
I Vape
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I've been stocking up for almost a year now and I still don't think I've spent that much.I have plenty of tanks. mods and replacement parts. I think PG,VG and flavorings will always be available but nicotine maybe harder to get but I have a good stock of DIY supplies so don't need to worry about that for a while
 
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I've been stocking up for almost a year now and I still don't think I've spent that much.I have plenty of tanks. mods and replacement parts. I think PG,VG and flavorings will always be available but nicotine maybe harder to get but I have a good stock of DIY supplies so don't need to worry about that for a while
Where you getting your flavoring that they'll always be available?

Every time I go to the mfrs website, at least 1 item I need is OOS.

Only places I can find them is online vaping retailers.

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Where you getting your flavoring that they'll always be available?

Every time I go to the mfrs website, at least 1 item I need is OOS.

Only places I can find them is online vaping retailers.

Tapatyped
I get my flavors from wizard labs Wizard Labs. I use TFA flavors but these are commercial flavorings used in the food industry and not just for vaping. I get my PG and VG here 2 Gallons PG-VG Free Shipping: Essential Depot as you can see from the websites they are commercial suppliers and not vape shops.these chemicals have wide use in industry and a vaping is only one small part of their commercial uses.
 

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I get my flavors from wizard labs Wizard Labs. I use TFA flavors but these are commercial flavorings used in the food industry and not just for vaping. I get my PG and VG here 2 Gallons PG-VG Free Shipping: Essential Depot as you can see from the websites they are commercial suppliers and not vape shops.these chemicals have wide use in industry and a vaping is only one small part of their commercial uses.
Pg & vg, I'm not worried about. It's not marketed or sold for vaping in most available avenues.

But as far as I know, wizard labs only carries flavors for the purpose of vaping.

Methinks, aside from straight from the mfrs, for most flavoring, one would have to have a commercial account or order off shore at some point.

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If some people say you can use Amber bottles, airtight, freezer, small bottles etc...for nicotine Does that mean that the same goes for pure vg & pg base? does that mean they might keep for years.
I'm sure they could.

But I wouldn't worry about it.

There's too many naturalists making soap with vg and farmers that need pg for their cows teets. They're not going anywhere.

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