I-Inhale is Loaded with Mixed and Troubling Reviews

[Sun Vaporer]

The I-Inhale is loaded with mixed reviews. Some like it and others reported problems (see the link below). To name a few of the negatives that are quite troubling are the reports that (1) the mouthpiece gets way to hot and unless you want to burn your lips you need to use the long tube that comes with it; (2) the run time is only 30 minutes between having to refill with butane; (3) The sound is noisy, (4) There are questions about the butane; (5) refilling with the Butane a little difficult (6) The unit needs to be sent all the way back to Ireland for warranty work (7) Reports of unit failures ,(8) The plastic housing.
There are 5 pages of posts in the link –worth a look if you are considering the I-Inhale as an alternative. See
I-inhale - Page 6 - 420 Magazine

 

[Kate]

Thanks for the info Sun, I'll have a look.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

You are welcome. I was excited when I saw this yesterday and was seriously considering ponying up the money for one as I do not care what it looks like--just that it is reliable and viable--but after the doing some research and finding these users reporting--I do not see that with this unit for me--but other members here may want to give it a go--Sun

 

[huey]

I've also researched this a bit and don't know if all the facts you stated are correct. What I'm finding:

1. There are 2 different ways to extend the mouthpiece to prevent the heat issues. It comes with an extension unit that attaches to the mouthpiece to make it longer (which the manufacturer provides) and a US reseller also provides tubing to add on that gives even more distance to cool off but that is completely their own preference. Most of the reviews I've seen say the really short is too close for comfort but with the extension it's comfortable but they really prefer the tubing (mind you these guys are used to using this tubing for vaping other things, not eJuice)

2. I don't know where you got 30 minutes from, most of the reviews I'm seeing say 2 hours. Sounds like somebody might have gotten a defective unit or isn't filling it correctly (will address in #5)

3. I think this is a little hazy, heard from across the room is a little misleading. I can hear my computer fans from across the room but I wouldn't say it was annoying or anything. Most of the reviews I read said that in a room with a TV or in a crowded situation the noise is masked.

4. From what I've read the butane doesn't even touch the vape chamber. The catalytic converter combines the butane with oxygen to create an extremely high temperature. That temperature heats the vapor chamber to vaporize the substance. The butane is destroyed in the chemical reaction that is caused.

5. Refilling butane is a difficult process for some, even on regular butane lighters (I know I've had many issues with a reputable butane lighter, but it's my fault). Most that are experienced in refilling butane say that it is exactly the same process as refilling a butane lighter and the unit actually works great with a large number of different butane bottles.

6. Well this is understandable, I don't know if I would expect anything less.

7. Haven't seen any reports on DOA units but I'm sure I was researching on different forums than Sun Vaporer.

8. I have actually found reviews the opposite for the plastic. I even found a forum thread where the manufacturer chimed in and told about the plastic. The housing is "food grade" plastic or something like that and the internals are "medical grade"? I'll have to hunt the forums down later and reread that. But whatever he said all the experienced vapers on the forum seemed impressed and it seemed to put their worries at ease.

I researched this for about 3 hours last night after reading the initial post and link on ECF (to keep me occupied while ECF was down). There were some people who had issues with the units but just like our e-cig suppliers the manufacturer was quick to answer the concerns and replaced anything that wasn't working as it should.

Most of the really experienced vaper's on those boards said that the unit was now one of the main units in their arsenal. They loved they portability and the functionality. They have more experience with the other type of vaporizers not our nice little e-cigs.

I was looking though and didn't see any way for us to use eJuice in the unit. It seems to me that the vaporizers have sectioned off into 2 types. The type where you have to put in the physical substance and the type like our e-cigs where you use the liquid. I haven't found any vaporizer that could be used for both but maybe I'm missing something.

 

[smokindeuce]

The I-Inhale is loaded with very mixed reviews (see the link below). To name a few of the negatives that are quite troubling are the reports that (1) the mouthpiece gets way to hot and unless you want to burn your lips you need to use the long tube that comes with it; (2) the run time is only 30 minutes between having to refill with butane; (3) The sound is loud enough to be heard across a room, (4) There are questions about its emissions of the spent butane that come out of the unit; (5) refilling with the Butane seems to be difficult for many users (6) The unit needs to be sent all the way back to Ireland for warranty work (7) Reports of many DOA’s ,(8) The plastic housing is cheap and not durable.
After reading all these posts from people that bought the unit, although some report they like it, I will be taking a pass. I can not see sitting there with only a 30 minute total run time and refilling with cans of butane and I do not like this hose deal if I do not want to burn my mouth piece ( like I am doing drugs or something illegal) and the noise factor would be very bothering for both myself and anyone in the room with me. Coupled with complaints of DOA’s and having to sent the unit back to Ireland and paying the shipping and down time, I would much rather stick with my e-cig and "fix it myself" by just replacing the atomizer or a battery. Long live my penstyle for now.
On the other hand, I am sure another one of these units will come along that is more user friendly so I will just be keeping my eye out. There are 5 pages of posts in the link –worth a look if you are considering the I-Inhale as an alternative. See
I-inhale - Page 6 - 420 Magazine

Just thought I'd comment on some of these points:

1/ I haven't had any problems with the mouthpiece getting hot, but as you can see from my video, I do use the mouth piece extension. This is not a 'hose' as you put it, merely a way of making the mouthpiece slightly longer. I don't know what this 'hose thing' is - there is nothing in the box that can be described as this.

2/ The run time as I already state in my video is 30 minutes of constant use - this is correct. However it only takes 10 seconds to refill again with lighter gas, unlike charging a battery which could take anywhere between 1-8 hours. If 10 seconds is more hassle than waiting a far longer time for a battery to charge, then yes - guilty as charged (no pun intended!). An important point to note on the refilling (which I mention in vid) is that if you overfill with butane then there may be a 5 minute shut off before you can use the device again.

3/ The noise is fairly loud as I mention as a negative in the review and may put some people off as I also mention. Through the whole video, the device was turned on and you may be able to tell (because its so noisy) that it isn't a constant noise. Instead it only kicks in when the temperature begins to drop to maintain a constant temperature.

4/ Anyone who is used to using a manual vaporiser ie. using a flame will already be used to inhaling all the gases from the lighter. The difference with the I-Inhale is that all of the unwanted gases are expelled from a vent on the side of the device so that the gases aren't inhaled by the user.

5/ I have experienced a few times where I accidentally overfilled the i-inhale due to inexperience. You may then have to wait a few minutes before the device is useable, although I think I am learning how to avoid this altogether. This might trouble some people.

6/ Our supplier (who is in England), has said that any faulty units can be repaired or replaced by them. If a user finds a defect(within 2yrs), they can send it back to me and I will get it repaired or replaced ASAP.

7/ I have not heard of any DOA's, but I'm sure there probably are some cases. Having spoken to my supplier on this they said that it was such a new product that it's too early to tell. This is an email response I got from them: 'it is a new item so cannot say but it is a quality made item from a well established manufacturer who has done extensive testing'

8/ On the build quality, if you watch my video I mention the build quality as being a negative. It is practical but not pretty. The i-inhale casing is made from an EU regulated plastic suitable for high temperature application.

It is what it is: a portable vapouriser designed for vapourising herbs. If you feel so inclined and aren't put off by the negatives I mention at the beginning of my video review, then you may be able to adapt it for vaping liquids as I have done...

If you're not interested or can't afford the upfront expense, go and buy a janty dura, decent generic or a screwdriver and expect to replace parts on a fairly regular basis....

 

[smokindeuce]

Looks like I was pipped to the post!

Oh and looks like most of our counter points match.... are you my long lost twin or something???!

 

[Kate]

... Most of the really experienced vaper's on those boards said that the unit was now one of the main units in their arsenal. They loved they portability and the functionality. They have more experience with the other type of vaporizers not our nice little e-cigs.

I was looking though and didn't see any way for us to use eJuice in the unit. It seems to me that the vaporizers have sectioned off into 2 types. The type where you have to put in the physical substance and the type like our e-cigs where you use the liquid. I haven't found any vaporizer that could be used for both but maybe I'm missing something.

Many thanks Huey, you've just saved me a lot of research time

I am especially happy that experienced vapers seem to think it's a good device. They will be comparing with some heavy duty equipment I'd guess. I'll be very surprised if it has a failure rate higher than ecigs.

I've not heard of dual purpose vaporisers either but am going to try it after seeing the video Tim/Smokindeuce came up with. It looks to work very well for him but he's told me that technique is different than with ecigs and it might drink eliquid faster than I'm used to. He's been experimenting with wet cartridge filler rather than just dripping and says that might be better and more economical.

It's nice to have honest responses from a supplier about a product Tim, thanks. I don't expect a Rolex for that price, a two year guarantee makes it more than worth it for me.

 

[huey]

Looks like I was pipped to the post!

Oh and looks like most of our counter points match.... are you my long lost twin or something???!

Heh. I don't know, all I know is that I blacked out and when I came to there was this post sitting on my computer ready to be posted to the forums. Must have channeled you or something. ;-)

I haven't seen your video though, must have missed that. I'll have to take a look.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

If you read through each of the many posts, a lot are good, some of the posts reported:

(1) Extending the mouthpiece isn't an option, but a necessity, unless you like hot lips.
(2) It takes a fair amount of lung power to get a good drag off this thing, there is a fair amount of resistance"
(3) "It hisses (the manual calls it a 'roar') with a static sound when it's heating up-noisy enough to hear from across a small room if it's quiet"

(4) As for design, well, it's nifty. But keep in mind safety concerns such as this: You have a pressurized cylinder of butane in your face!"

(5) I started to draw after a couple of minutes with the herb inside and I was quite surprised, but also frustrated at the same time. It was working, but it was hard to draw in."

(6) "I had trouble with the butane as well the first few times I filled it. Its kind of a tricky
So indeed some found the unit to be great and some had other comments--

 

[smokindeuce]

I'm still working on the cartridge filler route Kate, and have so far tried cotton wool and ecig cartridge filler. Neither produce as good results as dripping directly into the chamber however, but both these methods mean the liquid lasts a bit longer.

I was thinking of using some fine grade stainless steel wool that can withstand high temperatures (I've seen some that can withstand over 800 degrees) as the filler. I think that this would produce really good results, and imitate a similar effect to the atomisers in ecigs... My only concerns would be to make sure you wouldn't be inhaling anything toxic by heating the steel wool to over 190 degrees.... anyone got any ideas on this one?

There's also this thread here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/1798-cotten-wool-cart.html

 

[Kate]

I'm going to have a look when I get a chance Sun. As with any forum there is going to be background noise from inexperienced users, I'll be looking for the long term members posts to get a realistic impression.

EDIT
That sounds like it might be worth a try Tim, or maybe Kevlar even, that is ok up to 500 degrees C. I'll have a think about it too.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I think if it turns out to a viable option, I may give it a try.

 

[swanee]

Here's some more info found on another forum talking about the i inhale




"It's going to be different vs. a standard whip vape like the Vapor Bros. Quote:
I expected to see big vapor clouds
Out of the box, with the moisture condenser installed, airflow is pretty restricted. Actually it performs quite well, but only a limited number of hits provide impressive exhales. If you can't feel your normal level of elevation from .2g, I can assure you it's not the fault of a properly working I-inhale. I can feel the effect of a single hit. You can get vapor in 90 sec., but it does do better after a few minutes as the herb chamber gets hot. If you want better and cooler airflow, unscrew the two piece mouthpiece and remove the moisture condenser, and add about 6" of tubing. If you don't have tubing, definitely use the mouthpiece extension. Keep in mind that you'll have to back off your hits some if you remove the condenser, since that piece restricts the airflow quite a bit.

Quote:
I don't give it much time between hits
You'll get better performance if you do. A heating chamber this size needs time to reheat.

I ordered mine on pre-sale and have used it quite a bit. For a hit or two the taste is excellent, then, like all direct draw vapes, taste goes downhill as you continue to hit the partially vaped bowl. I find it's much easier to use and get sizeable hits from than the Vapolution, which has similar sized airways. The Vapo is a better comparison for the I-inhale than standard whips like the VB.
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[Sun Vaporer]

Swanee-- Thanks for the input--I take a look at the Vapolution you cite--wonder if that would be an option--I still have not ruled out the I-Inhale, as I will wait to see what some of the newer reviews say as it may be a viable option if a ban comes. Thanks--Sun

 

[swanee]

I was looking at the oxygen mini but i think it might take so long to heat up that it wouldn't really be practical at least not for me Vapir Mini Oxygen Vaporizer v2.0 @ GOTVAPE.com...


Quick question what temp do these atomizers heat up to?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

It has been posted here that our atomisers only heat to around 250 degrees C. if that helps.

 

[leaford]

What's funny to me is that I can see exactly what both Huey and Sun's source are saying, and they're probably both right.

Take the noise problem. From the sounds of it (pardon the pun) I would probably have said the same complaint about the noise, but then said something along the lines of "but to be fair, you won't really be bothered by it."

 

[smokindeuce]

@Sun Vaporer

I really appreciate your constructive critisim commentary on the I-Inhale, and really feel it is also at the root of my ethics also ie. to sell something that people will be happy with. I have researched and tested this for weeks and also had already read through every single thread of the forum you quoted earlier.

A big point I would also like to make is that the users who comment in the forum you quote are primarily vapourising marijuana and you should bear this in mind somewhat - unless this is what you want to use it for of course? In which case move forums.

A point you make on temperature heating up the mouthpiece hasn't really applied with my e liquid applications. For one it isn't the 'dry heat' associated with pot vapourising and the nicotine liquid condensation inevitably cools the mouthpiece. Also people using it for pot will generally toke for a lengthy period to get the most from there bud: obviously the device will heat up more, given time. However with nicotine, I see users wanting a cigarettes length (ie 10-15 puffs) before switching it off whereby allowing the device to cool. Also I have run the device with the mouth piece extension for over 10 minutes and not had the problems one of your posts describes. Dry marijuana based THTC is activated at higher temperatures than that of our liquids so optimally the I-Inhale is perfect at 10 minutes (ie hot) to vapourise herb, but far quicker (ie. less hot) to vapourise nicquids.

The point on it being noisy. Well I have been as honest as I can in my video review, stating and purposely making a negative point of it, that the noise might bother 'some people'. You are obviously one of these people and you're not really covering new ground here with this point. In a post of yours in another forum trying to derail the i-inhale you write 'I do not know if my nerves could handle it.' if your nerves are really that bad, I'd give up nicotine all together.. Oh, and having spent many hours with wild lions, I know what a 'roar' is and the I-Inhale certainly doesn't come close to one! lol

The point on CO2 emissions is quite frankly laughable and slightly over dramatised by the poster to say the least... WATCH OUT: you exhale CO2, your dog exhales CO2 - if it really truly worries you that much, you may as well leave behind your comfortable dwelling with all its CO2 emitting appliances and live in a rain forest...

Your fifth point relates to MJ - not relevant with liquid use...

Your 6th point I've already answered in my first post on this thread: the butane refilling takes some practice in order not to overfill. If you overfill you may have to wait 5 minutes. I've since overcome this though and anyone who does have issues in the future I will be more than willing to help out and offer advice/tips.

Finally, I appreciate you trying to constructively evaluate this product before you've tried it - that's exactly what I did for weeks before I decided that it may be worth testing. If you read through the entire thread on the website you quote, you will note that more of the user comments are positive although, once again bearing in mind they are vaping da herb here.

For one thing, I'm glad that you've decided the i-inhale isn't for you because at least it means I can get back to working out the best solution for using it with our liquids and offering people who do decide to take the plunge the best way of achieving good results with liquids or even glycerine enhanced tobacco.

Oh, and before I forget: Swanee - your post relates to MJ being used again = not relevant on an ecig forum.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I appreciate the feedback. It was not a review--rather what was stated by other consumers that bought and used it. That is why it was stated that the reviews were "mixed" meaning some loved it. Nothing more or less and your review did point out in fact many of the negatives as well as the positives and was greatfully appreciated. And I belief that many consumers will in fact give it a try. Thanks again!!

 

[smokindeuce]

Sorry for the misunderstanding Sun Vaporer, but the thread title: I-Inhale is Loaded with Mixed and Troubling Reviews sounds a bit alarmist to say the least... and then the subsequent i-inhale bashing bearing in mind you haven't tried it... If I don't want to watch a film, it is generally because I've read 'mixed reviews'. If I want to run a mile from the film it's because I've read troubling reviews...

If I felt mixed or at all troubled after using the I-inhale, I would say so... and certainly wouldn't bother with it in the first place!

The quotes you obtained from the forum you use, actually, on the whole read well and I recommend anyone contemplating using this device for cannabis vaping read the posts in detail before jumping to conclusions via this thread.

As far as niquids, well I've already stated it's work in progress, but something good will come some day soon....