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Dusif

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I've heard that flu cured tobacco is the closest thing to a real cig, a vaper said it tasted like an ashtray smelled so it must be close... If you try mixing it with something that doesnt have alot of taste it might hit the spot and taste like a true cogarette


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When I first started vaping, I too was on the hunt (as is everyone) for my tobacco flavor.
The best vendor I found is freedomsmokeusa. com They are in AZ. You can call their 800 number listed on the site and ask to speak to someone to help you pick the right one.
I smoked Pall Mall and theirs tasted dead on to me. Of course, I no longer can stand the taste of anything tobacco, but it got me off the stinkies.

Good luck. oh and they have a forum here at ecf also. Maybe you could ask there? Go to top of page and click on the forum suppliers link and scroll down the page that opens up. You will find both the website urls' and the forum links for all of the vendors listed there.

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I've heard that flu cured tobacco is the closest thing to a real cig, a vaper said it tasted like an ashtray smelled so it must be close... If you try mixing it with something that doesnt have alot of taste it might hit the spot and taste like a true cogarette


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I vape lots of fire cured. It's a smoky vape. Not a cig, but a good substitute. Actually, it is fire cured (the smoke from the fire cures the tobacco). Flue cured just the heat from the fire dries the tobacco.
 

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She's not looking for a flavour she loves she just wants something that feels and tastes natural to her. Nobody smoked cigs for flavour. The only way to make her feel like she's in her own comfort zone is to buy something flavourless and that means cheap tobacco flavours.

All 'premium' tobacco flavours will taste like cigars with a hint of something else (usually caramel or a spirit of some kind, whiskey, brandy etc).

Don't complicate the issue buy cheap tobacco flavours and one or two of them will have no discernible flavour and I believe that is exactly what will hit the spot for her. A lot of vapers when they first start don't give two hoots for flavours they all try tobacco types first. Pick the ones least likely to have ANY flavour and you're on the home stretch here.

It has a lot to do with it. I've has some gorgeous 18mg juice from Vapemunki that has very little TH and it's mixed at 50/50. If I need to go to 24 or 36mg to get a TH it's never going to happen. No chance.

PG hugely contributes to TH.

But, not without the nicotine. It might be more accurate to say that high VG can mute the throat hit from nicotine, while PG lets it through. PG by itself will have fairly little throat hit.

to the OP, this is dishonest, but I'm wondering what would happen if you gave her a non-tobacco flavor and told her it was tobacco? When she notices you could just say, "oh, must have been a mistake, but give it a few more puffs and see what you think". Might get her to give something else a chance and see that non-tobacco can be quite tasty. Other than than I have no suggestions. I haven't used tobacco flavors since I started.
 
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But, not without the nicotine. It might be more accurate to say that high VG can mute the throat hit from nicotine, while PG lets it through. PG by itself will have fairly little throat hit.

to the OP, this is dishonest, but I'm wondering what would happen if you gave her a non-tobacco flavor and told her it was tobacco? When she notices you could just say, "oh, must have been a mistake, but give it a few more puffs and see what you think". Might get her to give something else a chance and see that non-tobacco can be quite tasty. Other than than I have no suggestions. I haven't used tobacco flavors since I started.

I find high VG gives me no TH. You have to have a huge inhale from the start and even then it's not noticeable. I'm talking from the viewpoint of someone who now vapes everything at 18mg but some liquids have high PG some don't and the ones that don't give very little TH. If it's not the PG what else can it be?

Lots of people report great TH at 18mg but never with liquids with high VG. I appreciate it's all accumulative but much as I love tons of vapour I like at least some appreciable TH and I never get that with high VG liquids and when I say high I mean 50/50.

It could just be my luck with liquids but it would still seem odd.
 

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I vape lots of fire cured. It's a smoky vape. Not a cig, but a good substitute. Actually, it is fire cured (the smoke from the fire cures the tobacco). Flue cured just the heat from the fire dries the tobacco.

Interesting how the name flue cured tobacco came about. I was raised on a tobacco farm in eastern North Carolina in Pitt county. We used to be called the flue cured tobacco capital of the world and had the world's largest flue cured tobacco market along with maybe 8 or 9 tobacco processing plants. When I was a little boy, most of the tobacco curing barns on my grandfather's farm cured the tobacco with coal. The coal was feed into what was called a stoker, a large brick and cement containment at the end of the barn that the coal burned in and created heat. The heat being generated would leave the stoker and go into the curing barn through large (maybe 10 inches OD)sheet metal pipes that ran around the barn setting on bricks on the dirt floor. My father, who just passed away this past Oct at 91, said they burned wood when he was young. None of the smoke came in contact with the tobacco, just the heat.
These pipes were called FLUES.
 
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I find high VG gives me no TH. You have to have a huge inhale from the start and even then it's not noticeable. I'm talking from the viewpoint of someone who now vapes everything at 18mg but some liquids have high PG some don't and the ones that don't give very little TH. If it's not the PG what else can it be?

Lots of people report great TH at 18mg but never with liquids with high VG. I appreciate it's all accumulative but much as I love tons of vapour I like at least some appreciable TH and I never get that with high VG liquids and when I say high I mean 50/50.

It could just be my luck with liquids but it would still seem odd.

That's pretty much what I was saying. High VG mutes throat hit from nicotine, while PG lets it through. A PG juice at 0 nicotine wouldn't have much (any?) throat hit.
 

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You might even let her try a couple of samples of some good black honey tobacco. Open up her variety a little bit and I'll bet she'll find something she likes better than something that taste like a cigarette. I've gotten to love my black honey tobacco from a little B&M shop here in Indy called Pure Vape.
 

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Nice story. That's how I always understood "flue cured". I've been in the R-D area for 16 years. When I first moved to NC I saw tobacco fields everywhere. Now I hardly see them at all.
Interesting how the name flue cured tobacco came about. I was raised on a tobacco farm in eastern North Carolina in Pitt county. We used to be called the flue cured tobacco capital of the world and had the world's largest flue cured tobacco market along with maybe 8 or 9 tobacco processing plants. When I was a little boy, most of the tobacco curing barns on my grandfather's farm cured the tobacco with coal. The coal was feed into what was called a stoker, a large brick and cement containment at the end of the barn that the coal burned in and created heat. The heat being generated would leave the stoker and go into the curing barn through large (maybe 10 inches OD)sheet metal pipes that ran around the barn setting on bricks on the dirt floor. My father, who just passed away this past Oct at 91, said they burned wood when he was young. None of the smoke came in contact with the tobacco, just the heat.
These pipes were called FLUES.
 

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That's pretty much what I was saying. High VG mutes throat hit from nicotine, while PG lets it through. A PG juice at 0 nicotine wouldn't have much (any?) throat hit.

I've often wondered about that. People talk all the time about how they lower their nic over time. If the TH one day disappeared I wouldn't be happy. For some people though TH matters not a jot. I'll never go below 60 PG I feel like I'm vaping flavoured air below that.

But for the lady in the topic I don't know how much a deal TH would be Marlborough Lights if I was to take a wild guess would probably be equivalent to maybe a 60 PG hit? Dunno, but I do know when I first started vaping I wanted tobacco types only and the only ones that worked were the ones that had no flavour at all. I'm guessing the same will be true for her.
 

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Nice story. That's how I always understood "flue cured". I've been in the R-D area for 16 years. When I first moved to NC I saw tobacco fields everywhere. Now I hardly see them at all.

Same here, no ways as much tobacco raised here anymore. The farm I was raised on and still live on is now growing "houses". A lot of the tobacco is coming now from South America and Asia I think.
 

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I vape lots of fire cured. It's a smoky vape. Not a cig, but a good substitute. Actually, it is fire cured (the smoke from the fire cures the tobacco). Flue cured just the heat from the fire dries the tobacco.

Not fire cured... Flu cured... No idea what it actually is, but it should taste exactly as an ashtray smells... Super-smoke.com i think they carry it


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Not fire cured... Flu cured... No idea what it actually is, but it should taste exactly as an ashtray smells... Super-smoke.com i think they carry it


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I've tried flue cured from Dekang and it tastes great. No ashtray action at all going on there. Let's be honest nobody can accurately recreate a cigarette flavour with an eliquid but they can get close by giving you NO flavour at all. The flue cured I tried from Dekang was excellent but only because it was smooth and has a flavour I can't identify but it was soothing as a tobacco vape.

Keep asking for perfection and you will forever be disappointed.
 
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