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7 watts is about the center for what most find their sweet spot, usually around 6-8 watts. It can also depend on your juice, flavor and PG/VG ratio. Some flavors, tobacco & coffee seem to like warmer, more watts and fruits lower. The higher the VG percentage, the thicker the juice will be and the slower it may wick, causing a dry coil and burnt taste.
 

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7 watts is about the center for what most find their sweet spot, usually around 6-8 watts. It can also depend on your juice, flavor and PG/VG ratio. Some flavors, tobacco & coffee seem to like warmer, more watts and fruits lower. The higher the VG percentage, the thicker the juice will be and the slower it may wick, causing a dry coil and burnt taste.

Thanks for the reply Stosh but what I'm trying to clarify here is whether or not I'm burning wicks by going up to 7 or 8 watts. It would seem weird they allow you to go that high knowing you might kill your coil heads.
 

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What kind of atomizer are you using? That will give us more info.

I am not sure what you mean by a precoil. Your atomizer has either a single or double coil. They fire at the same time.

Like others have said, 7 watts is pretty middle of the road for any atomizer. By my calculations you are running at about 4.2 volts. That again is about average for a 2.5 ohm atty. So the problem is elsewhere.


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What kind of atomizer are you using? That will give us more info.

I am not sure what you mean by a precoil. Your atomizer has either a single or double coil. They fire at the same time.

Like others have said, 7 watts is pretty middle of the road for any atomizer. So the problem is elsewhere.


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It's a mini protank 2. Yep it sounds like the problem is elsewhere. I just wanted to know I wasn't going beyond what my atomiser can take by dialling up to 7 watts.

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Thanks for the reply Stosh but what I'm trying to clarify here is whether or not I'm burning wicks by going up to 7 or 8 watts. It would seem weird they allow you to go that high knowing you might kill your coil heads.

If when you say 'burning wicks' you mean getting dry hits, that's possible at 7 watts. If you mean you are popping the coils and the head stops working, that's not right. 8 watts should definitely not fry the coil unless there is no juice on it and you hold the power on for 5 seconds or more.
 

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Simple question for you, How long are you waiting to fire it up after filling? And are you priming the atty in anyway? Also, are your juices high in VG? It takes longer for VG to adsorb into the wick and chain vaping with all VG juice might cause this problem. Could also be just a bad brand of atty's, I know Ive had a few that no matter how much you prime and wait they constantly dry hit. All these things can cause this dry hit and burnt taste. But to answer your question, 7 watts shouldn't be enough to burn the atty you have that quickly if you have juice in your wick. My experience I don't start burning things until about 11.5 watts, or around 5.3 volts.
 

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If when you say 'burning wicks' you mean getting dry hits, that's possible at 7 watts. If you mean you are popping the coils and the head stops working, that's not right. 8 watts should definitely not fry the coil unless there is no juice on it and you hold the power on for 5 seconds or more.

Not dry hits, burnt hits, the taste changes and doesn't seem right. It happens most when I go to 8 but has happened at 7.

I thought I was being over zealous having just discovered VW but then I thought hang on this goes to 15 would I start a fire if it went that high?

I notice as well that a 1300 mah battery lasts me about six or seven hours which is about the same as the 650 mah EVODs I was using which just doesn't seem right but I accept if I'm whacking up the power I'm burning battery life a lot quicker.
 

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Thanks for the reply Stosh but what I'm trying to clarify here is whether or not I'm burning wicks by going up to 7 or 8 watts. It would seem weird they allow you to go that high knowing you might kill your coil heads.

The wicks themselves won't burn, the silica can be held in a torch flame 'till cherry red without burning...:)
It's the juice and the flavorings in the juice that burns, tastes like I cooked my own dinner.

The MVP is designed so that you can use pretty much any resistance (ohms) on it and adjust it to your own tastes. Some vapers like a very hot vape and will mod their attys, cartos to be able to feed the juice fast enough to use higher wattage. Some just like the higher wattage regardless of the taste (can't explain that..:laugh:). The adjustments will go higher and lower by far from what you like, but that's what makes vaping different for everyone.

I would recommend you try setting your MVP for VV, and adjust the voltage as low as it will go. Try vapingit, and slowly increase the voltage until it tastes good, gives you good vapor production. That's your sweet spot!! If you take the voltage it's set at, the ohms of your coil and use ohms law ... Ohm's Law / Watt's Law Calculator...it will give you the wattage your taste prefers.
 

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Simple question for you, How long are you waiting to fire it up after filling? And are you priming the atty in anyway? Also, are your juices high in VG? It takes longer for VG to adsorb into the wick and chain vaping with all VG juice might cause this problem. Could also be just a bad brand of atty's, I know Ive had a few that no matter how much you prime and wait they constantly dry hit. All these things can cause this dry hit and burnt taste. But to answer your question, 7 watts shouldn't be enough to burn the atty you have that quickly if you have juice in your wick. My experience I don't start burning things until about 11.5 watts, or around 5.3 volts.

I never thought about waiting to fire it up after filling. How does that affect it? I don't know what priming the atty means either. Most juices I use are PG heavy, closest I get to VG is 50/50.
 

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The wicks themselves won't burn, the silica can be held in a torch flame 'till cherry red without burning...:)
It's the juice and the flavorings in the juice that burns, tastes like I cooked my own dinner.

The MVP is designed so that you can use pretty much any resistance (ohms) on it and adjust it to your own tastes. Some vapers like a very hot vape and will mod their attys, cartos to be able to feed the juice fast enough to use higher wattage. Some just like the higher wattage regardless of the taste (can't explain that..:laugh:). The adjustments will go higher and lower by far from what you like, but that's what makes vaping different for everyone.

I would recommend you try setting your MVP for VV, and adjust the voltage as low as it will go. Try vapingit, and slowly increase the voltage until it tastes good, gives you good vapor production. That's your sweet spot!! If you take the voltage it's set at, the ohms of your coil and use ohms law ... Ohm's Law / Watt's Law Calculator...it will give you the wattage your taste prefers.

Yeah there seems to be two schools of thought on this... get your watts right and don't worry about the voltage or vice versa. I got this battery because it offer both and I switch between mini protank 2 and evods a lot and don't always remember what coils I'm using so it seemed easier to use VW.

I honestly have no clue at all about VV and VW I just bought this thing and really love how I can control the vape when I never could before but I know I'm overdoing something, I just don't know what lol.
 

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I never thought about waiting to fire it up after filling. How does that affect it? I don't know what priming the atty means either. Most juices I use are PG heavy, closest I get to VG is 50/50.

Waiting to fire it up after filling gives the wicks time to adsorb the juice. Esp if you are not priming in any way (as in dropping a few drops onto the coils to wet the wick, or what I do by sucking strongly a few times to draw the liquid into the wick and coil area) this very well might be your issue.
 

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Yeah there seems to be two schools of thought on this... get your watts right and don't worry about the voltage or vice versa. I got this battery because it offer both and I switch between mini protank 2 and evods a lot and don't always remember what coils I'm using so it seemed easier to use VW.

I honestly have no clue at all about VV and VW I just bought this thing and really love how I can control the vape when I never could before but I know I'm overdoing something, I just don't know what lol.

I'm in the third school...if it tastes good, you're at the proper voltage or wattage or unicorn farts...:laugh:
Your own taste buds give you instant feedback if it's too hot or too cool, adjust it without looking at the numbers. When you find the setting that tastes good, look at the numbers so you can set it back there in the future...:vapor:
 

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Waiting to fire it up after filling gives the wicks time to adsorb the juice. Esp if you are not priming in any way (as in dropping a few drops onto the coils to wet the wick, or what I do by sucking strongly a few times to draw the liquid into the wick and coil area) this very well might be your issue.

Very useful info, thanks.

I'm in the third school...if it tastes good, you're at the proper voltage or wattage or unicorn farts...:laugh:
Your own taste buds give you instant feedback if it's too hot or too cool, adjust it without looking at the numbers. When you find the setting that tastes good, look at the numbers so you can set it back there in the future...:vapor:

Anywhere between 7 and 8 works great for me, loads of vapour and great TH. I only dial down when I'm using 24mg which I have to sometimes if the nic hit just isn't happening. I can't deal with that monster TH from 24 even though I know I need the nic hit.
 

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Anywhere between 7 and 8 works great for me, loads of vapour and great TH. I only dial down when I'm using 24mg which I have to sometimes if the nic hit just isn't happening. I can't deal with that monster TH from 24 even though I know I need the nic hit.

Sounds like you found your sweet spot!..:toast: Just try a little higher or lower with new flavor juices, each seems to have a temperature it likes the best.
 

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The Volts/Watts level is going to vary alot from one vaper to the next and there are other factors such as what juice it is and what device is being used.

Example my juicy fruit DIY I cannot crank up past 5.5 Watts on my Vamo V2 in a Protank 1. Yet the same juice on the same vamo V2 but put in an Aspire I can crank up to 7.5 Watts. There is that much variance.

I do agree letting an atty sit for 10-15 minutes after a fill before vaping it and/or priming the wick are critical.
 
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