I love vaping, but can't stand the ringing...

[HazyShades]

I drink water and tea constantly throughout the day, the heavy chest is 100% VG related. I discovered it early on as I started with 70pg 30 vg juice and didn't have any issues at all, as stuff started being offered in 50/50 and higher VG blends I started using them, it only took a very short while before I developed a cough and felt like my lungs were loaded up. I just can't tolerate too much VG. even 50/50 gets to me. Then I began DIYing and reduced the VG till the affects were gone. I've been solely DIY for a couple years now.

I do all VG except for the flavors in my DIY and want that fullness of vapor
but noticed the same congested feeling that I didn't get when I bought PG or PG/VG blends.

Both Pg and VG seem to act as mucus solvents and expectorants but VG stays longer.
What percentage VG have you found messes with you the least?

 

[Txaggiesaunt]

I had it before vaping. Got mine from a bad cold and pressure build up. Also caffeine makes it worse too. Most days I don't notice a difference vaping or not.

 

[ENAUD]

I do all VG except for the flavors in my DIY and want that fullness of vapor
but noticed the same congested feeling that I didn't get when I bought PG or PG/VG blends.

Both Pg and VG seem to act as mucus solvents and expectorants but VG stays longer.
What percentage VG have you found messes with you the least?

At 70/30 I have zero issues, but I've reached a happy place with 60/40. I can tolerate the 40% VG with minimal issues, a heavy nighttime session will leave me a little wheezy, but I can deal with that. Some nights I can hear some of my alveoli squeek and whistle, but it is nothing compared to the crackling sounds and wheezing sounds that my lungs used to make when I was smoking.

 

[HazyShades]

I had it before vaping. Got mine from a bad cold and pressure build up. Also caffeine makes it worse too. Most days I don't notice a difference vaping or not.

I have, especially lately with the hot muggy weather.

 

[Mel-meowf]

I had it before vaping. Got mine from a bad cold and pressure build up. Also caffeine makes it worse too. Most days I don't notice a difference vaping or not.

With me lately I've noticed caffeine doesn't change it all that much...it did make it quite louder before when I was smoking PG/VG blends.

 

[HazyShades]

At 70/30 I have zero issues, but I've reached a happy place with 60/40. I can tolerate the 40% VG with minimal issues, a heavy nighttime session will leave me a little wheasy, but I can deal with that. Some nights I can hear some of my alveoli squeek and whistle, but it is nothing compared to the crackling sounds and wheezing sounds that my lungs used to make when I was smoking.

For sure, nothing like mornings as a smoker. 40% VG gives you the cloud w/o the problem?
I'll try, was thinking of using more PG.
Lately the muggy heat is being a problem, especially if I stay up all night vaping.
I lowered the percentage nic in this batch so don't think it's that.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Thank you! And yes I did muster up the willpower to quit for 3 days and switch to the gum...didn't see significant changes. I did notice that when I switched from PG to VG only that It decreased in sound quite a bit, but did not go away completely. I have read that it took weeks for other people's ears to heal from quitting the vape, but idk...I was hoping to still be able to vape along as my juice didn't have PG, but I haven't read of anyone solving the issue by doing that! So sad cause I do enjoy the vape.

For me, the tinnitus showed up out of the blue two weeks after starting the vape. It took me two months for me to realize that it could be the vape...haven't been exposed to loud noises or anything...went to Dr. And she just kinda threw antibiotics at the situation, didn't seem to change anything for me.. I just want my silence back lol!

Were you a former smoker before you switched to vaping?
What nicotine strength are you vaping at?
And lastly, when you switched to the gum, did it also contain nicotine?

I dont have a clue if this could be related to nicotine at all- just trying a process of elimination since you said it decreased when you switched to VG but I dont recall nicotine being mentioned in any of your posts.

 

[Mel-meowf]

Were you a former smoker before you switched to vaping?
What nicotine strength are you vaping at?
And lastly, when you switched to the gum, did it also contain nicotine?

I dont have a clue if this could be related to nicotine at all- just trying a process of elimination since you said it decreased when you switched to VG but I dont recall nicotine being mentioned in any of your posts.

Yes I was a pretty heavy smoker before vaping. Probably was smoking at least a pack a day. I was a smoker for about 7 years. When I started vaping, I used 6mg nicotine, and the 3 days I was on the gum I used 4mg nicotine. Never had the slightest hint of tinnitus when I smoked cigs, and when it started happening, I amost went back to cigs, but I didn't. (Cause that would've been pointless of course). I've done as much research as I can, but there just isn't that many studies on vaping. All I know for sure is that PG is otoxic to the inner ear (when applied topically). As for vaping, I'm not sure...

 

[CagedSpam]

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[Mel-meowf]

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Thank you for the tip! I ordered a couple flavors from virginvapors, but I may just go back to the gum to see if it heals. I verified with virginvapors to make sure there isn't any PG, but my gut is telling me that if I don't quit, it'll become a permanent issue...I was hoping someone could shed light on this topic and tell me they were able to eliminate the ringing by switching to non-PG liquids.

 

[Racehorse]

I am one of the few and unfortunate people to have tinnitus shortly after vaping...so I need to know, has anyone out there cured the ringing by switching to juice that contains absolutely no PG? All I have read out there is that people had to end up quitting the vape to stop the tinnitus. Or the ringing would die down after switching juices. I have switched to juice from virgin vapors that contains no PG, but I am worried that I should just quit...not sure. New to this forum. I would love to hear about others experiences and what they did to solve this.

Tinnitus nothing to mess around with..... was your ENT able to provide any insight into food, allergens, substances, etc. that may be affecting you? He may want to send you to a good allergist as part of your treatment plan.

I'm assuming an ENT evaluated you and diagnosed the tinnitus.

Really, get some testing:
Allergies & AutoImmune Inner Ear Disease | St. Vincent Medical Center

Your situation, once properly evaluated, may be solved by a simple allergy shot, or an appt with a nutritionist once they figure out what is going on with you.

You would not want anything progressive to happen in there.

 

[Mel-meowf]

Tinnitus nothing to mess around with..... was your ENT able to provide any insight into food, allergens, substances, etc. that may be affecting you? He may want to send you to a good allergist as part of your treatment plan.

I'm assuming an ENT evaluated you and diagnosed the tinnitus.

Really, get some testing:
Allergies & AutoImmune Inner Ear Disease | St. Vincent Medical Center

Your situation, once properly evaluated, may be solved by a simple allergy shot, or an appt with a nutritionist once they figure out what is going on with you.

You would not want anything progressive to happen in there.

I'm not sure if it's an allergic rxn or not. This started a few weeks after I began to vape, really strong and loud too. There was ear pressure, high pitched ringing, and sometimes sharp pain. My doctor (reg doc, not ENT) gave me antibiotics in case of infection but it did not cure. I looked into it and saw many other people experiencing the same symptoms; ended up quitting the vape. Some people recovered from hearing loss, others did not. Some people relate it to PG, but at this point I don't think its PG...bc my ear ringing has intensified after just one day of vaping non-PG juice(after 3 days of chewing gum instead). I think Im going to give up the vape again until I can see an ENT.

 

[Txaggiesaunt]

Thank you for the tip! I ordered a couple flavors from virginvapors, but I may just go back to the gum to see if it heals. I verified with virginvapors to make sure there isn't any PG, but my gut is telling me that if I don't quit, it'll become a permanent issue...I was hoping someone could shed light on this topic and tell me they were able to eliminate the ringing by switching to non-PG liquids.

In most cases, once you have tinnitus it never completely goes away. The little hair particles in your inner ear are ruined. And there is really nothing they can do for it. You can pick up some Lipoflavanoid at Walgreens (it's all natural with supplements) in the ear section and take like it says and it does help.

 

[Racehorse]

In most cases, once you have tinnitus it never completely goes away.

In most cases but .....it depends on how the damage occured.....the kind from loud noises is usually not curable (family member has that kind which is why I know a lot about the disorder).

Something as simple as ear wax blockage can cause tinnitus and in that case it's solvable if not left long enough to do permanent damage. All of this is just nerve interference/nerve damage which affects how stimulus is sent to brain. They are doing interesting things now with electrical stimulation (of vagus nerve) which interferes somehow and tinnitus is no longer "heard".

Anyway, if I were the OP I would want a full workup w/an ENT, to know for sure what was happening, and to make sure it isn't something else, or something is in there, or there is a allergen (inhaled or otherwise) causing problems.

 

[Foggy Road]

I had tinnitus for over 15 years, bad enough that the med. tech would ask if I had it during hearing tests.
I started taking vitamin A (beta carotene) for night blindness.
Several months later my night vision had improved a great deal but I'm not sure when I stopped having tinnitus, it just went away.
This was 15+ years ago, it has not come back but I did find a essay on it (take it with more than 2 grains of salt)
Lack Of Vitamin A May Be Overlooked Root Of Tinnitus And Hearing Loss

I've had T for something like a decade now. Only been vaping for a little over a year. Severity of my T has always been all over the scale from totally maddening to almost forgotten. I've never seen a doctor about it. Dietary or nutritional influences may very well explain the varying severity? Thanks for the link. I'll certainly be looking into this.

 

[Bonskibon]

I got a good whack to the head many years ago that broke my eardrum and have had T ever since. I just got used to it. I don't notice it any worse with vaping.

 

[Verb]

I have no issues above 80VG. I thought it was weird and it bothered me, but nothing like the tooth pain of vaping juice with too much sucralose. I found no need to quit as the problem was solvable.

I mostly vape unflavored now and flavored a couple times a day from a few trusted sources (Adirondak and Keystone).

 

[Detroit Doug]

25 years working at an airport did it for me. Vaping didn't seem make it any worse.

 

[Robino1]

I started vaping while I was still in a band. The tinnitus... I can't say if it was music or vaping related.

In the link I posted, Roly noted that pg didn't cause tinnitus, just that in a small number of people, it aggravated the issue.

I can say, there has been no pain involved. Ever. Just a low level buzzing/ringing. If there are any sounds going on in my environment, I do not hear the low level ringing.

As for caffeine, I only drink 2-3 cups of coffe in the morning. After that just water, no other caffeinated beverages.

 

[Rossum]

25 years working at an airport did it for me. Vaping didn't seem make it any worse.

I never worked at an airport, but I went to plenty of the rock concerts, rode motorcycles, flew light airplanes, and shot guns for much of my life. So at 57 years old, it would probably be surprising if I didn't have a bit of tinnitus. I had it before I started vaping, and in fact, switching from a 2 PAD cig habit to vaping seemed to make it better for a while. Right now, I'm not sure it's better, but it certainly isn't any worse. In any case, I'm not concerned about it and it's not something I'm going to purse with via the scam that we call a health care system.

Now if I were the OP, who's only 26 years old and doesn't have a history of exposure to loud noises, yeah I *would* be concerned. But is vaping really the cause? Remember, correlation does not equal causation.