I may need a two battery mod

[bombastinator]

My experience with TC is it can be fickle, especially how you wrap your coils. Contact coils like basic micro-coils (wire touches at each wrap) this can throw TC readings off as TC coils are inherently hotter and ramp up in heat quicker due to each wrap helps heat the adjacent wraps. TC coils work best when spaced with gaps between each wrap, this widens out the surface area, and each wrap is reliant upon generating its own heat, making the TC even along the whole wire, increasing TC accuracy. FYI, Evolv with the advent of the original DNA40 chipsets, and what started the TC movement, it was originally designed for Nickel Ni200, Titanium Ti1 came into effect later as vapers began experimenting given Ni200's low melting point, Ti1 for the most part only becomes dangerous if you dry burn it and cause titanium-dioxide to be formed, both wires should never be dry burned, most cases dry wicking still has some liquid in it unless you burn it dry and charcoal it, Ni200 should not melt nor Ti1 should not create titanium-dioxide with a previously wet wicking, the TC should ramp down due to the drying out wicking.

The most accurate control boards for TC, JMHO, are Evolv (DNA), Yihi (SX), Smoant's, and Hohmtech's, most others are cheap slap together and have very minimal TC control (example Kanger, set into TC mode the PCB sets watts to max and only allows you to set the TC cap, you have to adjust both the watts (with Yihi it is Joules when in TC mode) and the TC cap to fine tune the vape.

Single battery vs multi-battery for TC, unless you are needing super high watts, 55watts or higher when not in TC mode, then a dual battery mod comes into play, but on a dual coil, properly wrapped TC spaced coil, with maybe 26awg wire thickest for SS or Ti1, 28 to 30awg thickest for Ni200 (due to it has negligible resistance to begin with), 50watts should suffice for a proper TC setup, and it is a PITA to experiment what settings work the best for you as not only do you deal with the watts but the TC cap as well, took me about a week to get my TC setups down pat for my personal tastes.

TC, in most regards will seem anemic to standard wattage only mode, thus reason why most say TC is carppy and don't like it, myself it is a cooler relaxing no worries about dry hits or generating poisonous by-products type of vape.

I'd look at maybe purchase of a DNA75 (most times this will be a single battery device), I have 2, both HCigar Vt75's that use a 26650 though does have an adapter for using 18650's, and suggest at least a 25amp 18650 if you go the 18650 route, but the DNA75 is just as accurate as the DNA166/200's in my experience thus far.

So to avoid anemic TC vape I need to do 50 watts or more, correct?

 

[Necrospecter]

Okay I will start this with I have never used TC I want to try it but have not done so as of yet since the idea of building coils for me is intimidating my hands shake too much. However, my eVic Primo 2.0 has TC mode and is a two battery mod which is what you are looking for if I skimmed everything correctly it is a great mod I got it from gearbest for 55 bucks Joyetech eVic Primo 2.0 Kit with ProCore Aries -$54.87 Online Shopping| GearBest.com hope this helps and I did not just derail the topic

 

[SteveS45]

There are factory screw in coils made of every wire type so TC Mode is not only for builders.

 

[Necrospecter]

There are factory screw in coils made of every wire type so TC Mode is not only for builders.

yes but you still have to deal with the little screws on the deck correct? that is my worry, the wrapping I am sure I could do but the little screws last time I tried to repair some sunglasses ended up having to send them into get repaired stripped the screw

 

[SteveS45]

No I mean coils like this


Atlantis V2 Replacement Coil head 0.3/0.5ohm for V2

 

[SteveS45]

What happened to my picture?

 

[Necrospecter]

No I mean coils like this


Atlantis V2 Replacement Coil head 0.3/0.5ohm for V2

new toys to order will send you a PM so I stop highjacking thanks

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

new toys to order will send you a PM so I stop highjacking thanks

It's not hijacking, IMO. If someone else is lurking in the thread and is interested in a dual battery mod and trying temp control but not sure about their coil wrapping skillz (raises hand), getting info on trying TC with a stock coil is righteous.

 

[Beamslider]

You don't need 50W to avoid anemic vape. Depends on the coil you use. I use a very run of the mill SS awg27 coil at .6 ohm and have it set at 20w and 195C. I get plenty of vapor and it is very flavorful.

You need to match coil and wattage or TC will throttle the power and you will end up with little vapor. You have to fiddle to find out what works. If you change type of coil frequently you will be fiddling around a lot.

I like it for two reasons, the vape is consistently the same and the wick lasts for a long time without changing. Also if I forget to refill until the tank runs low, I don't get dry hits, it just stops putting out vapor and I then know it is empty

 

[OlderNDirt]

Just sharing my own personal experience with TC:

I started with drop in TC coils just to try it out, several different wires, tanks, and mods. It seemed to me that using the same tank/coil on different mods could require substantially different settings on each mod. As somebody else mentioned, "finicky." Not giving up quite yet, I purchased a Lavabox DNA 200 which I felt gave me the best TC vape of anything else I tried. I used that for a while, but was a little frustrated with the limited life of the built in battery for the benefit of TC vape. And I just couldn't see or justify the cost of buying another DNA mod.

I read a lot of recommendations to build TC coils which, in spite of funky hands and tremors, I do a bit of kanthal building. But what others accomplish in minutes, I may take an hour or more. And that is on "good days" when I can even attempt it. Personally, I find the wicking to be more problematic and time consuming.

So I am back to power vaping with drop in coils and using one RTA just to stay in practice building while my Lavabox gathers dust. But I do believe the DNA gave me the best TC vape of any of my other mods I tried.

 

[Beamslider]

Yes different mods different result with same coil. I use DNA 75, Pico 75 and Evic. All are different settings to approach the same thing.

The DNA I think is better too but the pico and evic work fairly well too. The arctic fox firmware on the pico and evic seem to improve them substantially.

 

[Necrospecter]

The arctic fox firmware on the pico and evic seem to improve them substantially.

From time to time I see things about using different firmware but never really looked into it only have the one mod and kinda afraid of screwing it up but I guess I am going to need to look more about it.

 

[bombastinator]

What happened to my picture?

you appear to be a human chipmonk. But it was that way before i think. the uploaded pic of the drop in coil is there and fine though. You just have to click on it

 

[bombastinator]

You don't need 50W to avoid anemic vape. Depends on the coil you use. I use a very run of the mill SS awg27 coil at .6 ohm and have it set at 20w and 195C. I get plenty of vapor and it is very flavorful.

You need to match coil and wattage or TC will throttle the power and you will end up with little vapor. You have to fiddle to find out what works. If you change type of coil frequently you will be fiddling around a lot.

I like it for two reasons, the vape is consistently the same and the wick lasts for a long time without changing. Also if I forget to refill until the tank runs low, I don't get dry hits, it just stops putting out vapor and I then know it is empty

these are powerful incentives.

 

[SteveS45]

you appear to be a human chipmonk. But it was that way before i think. the uploaded pic of the drop in coil is there and fine though. You just have to click on it

I was talking about the picture I pasted into the previous post that just disappeared from between the two sentences and not my Avatar.....................

 

[bombastinator]

I was talking about the picture I pasted into the previous post that just disappeared from between the two sentences and not my Avatar.....................

I know. I just cant resist a dad joke when I see one.. Its a sickness..