i might as well introduce myself, and a question about eGo batteries

[allimsayin]

i have been lurking, reading, watching... so i figure that i should start posting. i have been vaping for about six weeks now with no analogs are all.

im using eGO twists (x2) 1000mah, eGo 450mah (for out and about), and a Ego mini. still testing out different cartomizers to see what i like the best. so far the EC3 or phoenix bottom coil (branded different from different vendors, but seem close to the same) are my favorite. been playing around with vivi nova tanks, kanger T2, vision clear ego, getting ready to start to try dripping with 306 bridgeless. buying my liquid from johnson, virgin, want2vape, and tested a good handful of others.

my question, has anyone killed an eGo battery yet? had one die? what is their lifespan?

 

[mrtomaso]

vendors have told me about four to six months. I've been using mine for about two months and I have already noticed decrease in performance.

 

[vsummer1]

Welcome to ECF! It sounds like you are well on your way as an ex-smoker, congratulations! I am new also, and haven't killed mine yet

 

[allimsayin]

thank you, i have read a few places that they are only good for about 4-9 months, and then they dont hold a charge. i was thinking this is why some people use MODs with rechargeable batteries?

 

[VaperBart]

i have been vaping my ego for almost 2 months and they seemed fine until a few days ago when i dropped one and the battery inside slid down (i have the version with the LCD screen in it so there seems to be space between the battery and the LCD) and my button caved into the housing and i could no longer push it. Also my center post as of late has been getting pushed in a bit and i have to pull it out just slightly in order to make the connection with my charger. i have 2 1100 mah batteries and they both need there center posts pulled a bit to charge. oh and i did "kinda" fix my button issue on the one i dropped.

 

[BigDaddies-Atty]

Welcome allimsayin! I have seen the ego batteries last about 6 months and then they start losing some power! cwho try pushing the post up in your atty or carto, which ever you use. It is better to push and pull on them instead of the battery. The pin on the connection of your carto should move up and down just as easy as it does on your ego.

 

[VaperBart]

Welcome allimsayin! I have seen the ego batteries last about 6 months and then they start losing some power! cwho try pushing the post up in your atty or carto, which ever you use. It is better to push and pull on them instead of the battery. The pin on the connection of your carto should move up and down just as easy as it does on your ego.

yeah i have to do that also from time to time but if i don't pull the center pin on my battery it won't make the connection on the charger.

 

[ravenlily]

Ive owned 3 egos and 5 twists. Had one ego die when the carto broke off and the threads were stuck. Totally my fault. And one twist the button got all wonky. Couldnt use it. Thats it. Rest of em still work great. Use em non stop since spring/summer.

 

[BigDaddies-Atty]

The problem we all have is that the center pin is in a different position on all of our devices. So we put a carto on one device and it pushes the center pin up, and then put it on another device and it does not make connection. If we could just find the sweet spot and get the center pin in the same position on all of our devices we would hardly ever have to adjust the center pins. That is a big if though.

 

[Rickajho]

Welcome!

A lot of it depends several factors:

Low resistance devices will kill eGo batteries more rapidly than SR devices. This is especially true if you do not monitor whether the resistance on your LR devices drops super low - 1 ohm or less. At that point you are, in effect, shorting the battery and that's hard on any battery.

Usage, of course. All batteries will only work for so many charge/discharge cycles.

Is it the real deal JoyeTech stuff or a cheap clone? Lotto vendors out there saying they sell eGo batteries. They might look like an eGo but if the pricing is too cheap to believe the chances are it isn't by JoyeTech. Clones in general don't last as long as the real deal. Classic example of you get what you pay for. Or not.

I have had my JoyeTech 900 and 1000 mAh batteries over a year now and they still perform. Mind you, I have four eGo batteries in total. And they don't get used daily now that other PV's are in the rotation. But for my first eight months those were the only batteries I used and they still work fine.

 

[VaperBart]

Welcome!


Is it the real deal JoyeTech stuff or a cheap clone? Lotto vendors out there saying they sell eGo batteries. They might look like an eGo but if the pricing is too cheap to believe the chances are it isn't by JoyeTech. Clones in general don't last as long as the real deal. Classic example of you get what you pay for. Or not.

just wanted to add i think mine are "clones" i looked on the JoyeTech site and i don't see any of there batteries with the LCD display. However my eGo-c upgrade is genuine JoyeTech merchandise.

since im here i may as well ask...is the kgo battery a good quality battery or are they considered clones also?

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

The problem we all have is that the center pin is in a different position on all of our devices. So we put a carto on one device and it pushes the center pin up, and then put it on another device and it does not make connection. If we could just find the sweet spot and get the center pin in the same position on all of our devices we would hardly ever have to adjust the center pins. That is a big if though.

Maybe that is why I have never had a problem with battery posts. If something has a center pin that sticks out, I press it on a flat surface until it is flush on the bottom. If something has a center pin that is a little short (rare) I pull the pin down past the bottom slightly and then press it on a flat surface until it is flush. If the Vivi Nova sticks out it has to be filed flat because the head pushes it down when screwed in. I guess I have been putting all the center pins in the same position without thinking about it.

As for eGo batteries, I know there are a lot of "battery salesmen" on the Forum who like to say that eGos are disposable and only last 2 or 3 months. I have been charging an 1100mAh eGo clone daily for about 6 months and have no problem. I have a Twist that I charge nearly every day since they came out and it is fine, so far. They do wear out and I expect maybe in a year. That would be 7 cents a day for what I paid. I'm happy now that I have 6 months on the clone. Having more than 1 eGo in rotation extends the calendar time as well.

I heard a claim that somebody charged their Twist 3 or 4 times a day. Since it takes about 3 hours to charge, they must not be getting much vaping time out of that Twist! Lol Most button problems are repairable if you wish to take it apart and align the button and circuit board. Just be gentle taking it apart. An old Star Dust makes a great handle to hold when pulling it apart. Just rock it gently up and down and side to side until it starts to move apart and then be very gentle. Do not pull, just keep gently rocking it until it comes apart. The wires are very fine, about like a hair, and break easily. If you have an eGo that isn't working anyway, you have nothing to lose if it breaks or if you have to solder wires back together.

I have the 1100mAh clone (pass-through) (2) and 1000mAh Twist (2), 350mAh Mini (4), and an iTaste. With the Vivi Nova 2.5 and Mini Nova I have all I need to be happy, right now.

I am Relaxing and Enjoying!

 

[mrelwood]

I think I've used my eGo-C 650mAh battery for about 8 months now. eGo-C Twist 650mAh joined the rotation at some point, but the eGo-C is still in good daily use. I think the charge wears off a little quicker than it used to even if I try to compensate for the lower resistances I use now and the fact that I've been vaping a lot more lately.

I did kill a Riva eGo battery when getting into SS wicks. One short and the battery was dead. A great reminder to ALWAYS measure a modded ato before connecting to battery. Thankfully the eGo-C and has a short protection though, as one ato shorted on-flight.

 

[grandmato5]

The lifespan of an ego battery should be 250-300 charges. Everyone's mileage is going to vary so that's certainly not going to be everyone's experience. Some people have had them die in a week. I have egos that are 22 months old and still working fine. Mine dont get used very often anymore but when they were new they saw a lot of use. Shorts caused by attys or cartos is most often the reason they die early.

 

[kiwivap]

since im here i may as well ask...is the kgo battery a good quality battery or are they considered clones also?

KGOs are good. They have a new variable voltage out that quite a few people have bought and given good reports on.

 

[steved5600]

Depending on the type of actual battery that is in them there are some things you can do to extend the life of them. I am looking into what specific type it it. I suspect that they are Ni-cad. Ni-cad batteries do not like to be left in chargers. They do not like to be only partially discharged and then recharged. You should use them till the are almost dead. Then you should charge them up fully and remove them from the charger. If you keep letting it only partially discharge it will develop a memory and when it hit the memory spot it will just suddenly go dead. Other things that improve their life is keeping them cool. Quick charges will use them up quicker than a slow charge.

Lithium Ion and Ni-mh batteries are not as picky as a Ni-cad.

Also keep the contacts clean and free from contaminants. They can cause a short over time or a bad connection.
I know this because was a Ham Radio operator and and Electronics tech. If you are a Ham you become a Battery Guru or you spend a lot more on batteries which can get old.
Hope this helps.

FYI all Ecig users should become battery savvy. It will save you money.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Welcome!

A lot of it depends several factors:

Low resistance devices will kill eGo batteries more rapidly than SR devices. This is especially true if you do not monitor whether the resistance on your LR devices drops super low - 1 ohm or less. At that point you are, in effect, shorting the battery and that's hard on any battery.

Usage, of course. All batteries will only work for so many charge/discharge cycles.

Is it the real deal JoyeTech stuff or a cheap clone? Lotto vendors out there saying they sell eGo batteries. They might look like an eGo but if the pricing is too cheap to believe the chances are it isn't by JoyeTech. Clones in general don't last as long as the real deal. Classic example of you get what you pay for. Or not.

I have had my JoyeTech 900 and 1000 mAh batteries over a year now and they still perform. Mind you, I have four eGo batteries in total. And they don't get used daily now that other PV's are in the rotation. But for my first eight months those were the only batteries I used and they still work fine.

I happen to be friends with some of the vendors that sell "cheap ego clones" and I can tell you for a fact that these "clones" are among the least returned products that come from China (almost all ecig products come from China btw - Ruyan, a Chinese company, created the modern ecig and started the ecig revolution in 2004). Please stop associating name brands (an American concept) with China (who copies everything and what matters to them is outproducing and outselling, not outnaming each other). Their laws are different than ours and our rules don't apply to them. On that subject, I have seen posts about Provaris dying in just 1 day. Name brands are meaningless in the world of vape. Even if the four EGO batteries you have were claimed to be legitimate Joyetechs (in your eyes) there is no way to prove it. This is exactly what I am talking about.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/281673-my-provari-dead-after-1-day.html

To answer the OP's question, a Lithium Ion battery (which all EGO type PV's contain) is recommended by the manufacturer to be replaced after 300 charges. At this point most Lithium Ion batteries will permanently lose maximum voltage output (on average about .1v). Because these batteries require a safety circuit that prevents overcharging (past 4.2 volts, which results in fire and venting) they recommend you replace them at this time because they don't want to take a chance that you will burn your house down and possibly lose your life in the process. 300 charges. I charge my 2 batteries every other day so that's 1 year 8 months. With one battery charging every day it's about 10 months.

If anyone reading this would like a crash course on batteries and safety please click the link below to the Vaper's Handbook and reference "Batteries 101" (hit Control+F to do a quick find). TYVM.

 

[Rickajho]

That's the beauty of opinions - everybody has one.

On the ECF boards the majority of complaints I read are regarding clone batteries at half the price of JoyeTech batteries, dying anywhere between 1 month to 4 months. Some times even less. Personally, I know someone who bought 4 Riva "eGo" kits for people at Christmas. Out of those 8 batteries 1 was DOA and 2 of them died in under 14 days. All of the remaining batteries didn't make it past the 2nd week of April. That proved to be a great way to save money...

YMMV. My JoyeTech eGo's still workin'

 

[VaperBart]

i am about 2 months in on my ego clones and they seem to be doing fine......as far as charging and use time. in fact i seem to get more use time out of them than when i first got them but i did make sure that i fully charged them befor the first use and i always full deplete them until they just stop working before i charge them. i get about a day and a half out of one charged 1100 mah. the only problems i have run into is the post being pushed in and not making the connection with the charger and of course when i dropped one it messed up the button but i have since fixed that.

so all in all it's seems im about middle of the road on the life span? so we will see how long they last. if i go by the 300 charge cycles i charge 1 per day on average so i should get almost a year out of them.

 

[allimsayin]

Welcome!

A lot of it depends several factors:

Low resistance devices will kill eGo batteries more rapidly than SR devices. This is especially true if you do not monitor whether the resistance on your LR devices drops super low - 1 ohm or less. At that point you are, in effect, shorting the battery and that's hard on any battery.

Usage, of course. All batteries will only work for so many charge/discharge cycles.

Is it the real deal JoyeTech stuff or a cheap clone? Lotto vendors out there saying they sell eGo batteries. They might look like an eGo but if the pricing is too cheap to believe the chances are it isn't by JoyeTech. Clones in general don't last as long as the real deal. Classic example of you get what you pay for. Or not.

I have had my JoyeTech 900 and 1000 mAh batteries over a year now and they still perform. Mind you, I have four eGo batteries in total. And they don't get used daily now that other PV's are in the rotation. But for my first eight months those were the only batteries I used and they still work fine.

thanks, they are JoyeTech batteries, and I think the lowest carts I'm using are 1.8. I will make sure to be more mindful of what I'm screwing into it