I've seen one at a local B&M and even had the chance to try it and it pretty well built and sturdy. I like to call it the otterbox or lifeproof of mods that are currently in B&M's, and online at the moment. However I did find it interesting that even when I was in the process of purchasing one the shop employee mentioned numerous times how difficult it was to get the battery compartment screwed down and actually was not able to even do it with a brand new out of the box and if that screw isn't all the way down it makes the water resistant claim pointless, she also said that using it with the batteries I had in the mechanical mod I brought into the shop would not work with it. I love the design and idea of it but for that price it was at the shop I was in which was roughly $90 before tax I decided it would be worth it to spend the extra and get a vv/vw box mod built from a friend that makes box mods(even though it would be bigger size wise).
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I've seen one at a local B&M and even had the chance to try it and it pretty well built and sturdy. I like to call it the otterbox or lifeproof of mods that are currently in B&M's, and online at the moment. However I did find it interesting that even when I was in the process of purchasing one the shop employee mentioned numerous times how difficult it was to get the battery compartment screwed down and actually was not able to even do it with a brand new out of the box and if that screw isn't all the way down it makes the water resistant claim pointless, she also said that using it with the batteries I had in the mechanical mod I brought into the shop would not work with it. I love the design and idea of it but for that price it was at the shop I was in which was roughly $90 before tax I decided it would be worth it to spend the extra and get a vv/vw box mod built from a friend that makes box mods(even though it would be bigger size wise).
I am just like you Crates and tend to abuse my mods at times and not think of how fragile they can be. I know some one mentioned the ELVT mod and you can see my reply about them. But If your looking for a starter kit that's good and can withstand some abuse and be a mod you don't have to worry about breaking, I think I know what you may be looking for only problem is I don't know exactly what you looking for such as a vv/vw mod starter kit or a mechanical. But if you send me a message I will make sure to get back to you because I think I have the answer to your problem.
Yes, get eleaf istick vv/vw box mod, about the size of 30 ml bottle of juice.
is hottest thing out there.
goes from 3 to 5.5 volts. built rock solid
some pics of mine i just got.
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would get a nutilus mini tank perhaps with the metal outer housing if you like dropping things....lol.
some pics.
oh yea, istick has 2200 mah battery, and lasted me 20 hrs. str8t vaping.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127571667@N07/
get a mech mod and a kick 2 if ya want to use clearos...mech mods dont break...I switched to them after staring vaping and breaking my first 3 egos in a week each.
Now i have over 10 mods(new toys disease) but not one of them has crapped out on me.
Now i have over 10 mods(new toys disease) but not one of them has crapped out on me.
I second that. I have a Cronus mech mod and that thing has been through some rough situations and it hasn't given up. It has a few scratches in the metal but that's it. I would get a Kick for it but the telescoping part of it isn't wide enough to fit it. 
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