I need a smoke

[Silverkm]

Wow... I've been so paranoid of running out of things it's crazy. Almost at 2 weeks and I have: 1 nebula starter kit, monster battery, usb passthrough. Ego-t battery and atomizer, 510-t starter kit.

Everything tastes burnt. The nebula is cartos, drained a carto, fill it with lots of juice... burnt taste. So I try the 510-t's - either absolutly nothing or lots of smoke and tastes burnt. Ego, for some reason tastes really sour (my reg tobacco flavor)

I am so aggitated right now, but I decided to vent my frusteration instead of going for a smoke. Going to go to bed and wake up and hopefully I can get something together to work to get me through the day tomorrow.

 

[Boodle]

Bless your heart. You're having a BVD (Bad Vape Day). Once a carto tastes burnt it's usually toast. Do you have an atty you can drip in for now? Weird taste hits us all occassionally. Drink water like a camel crossing the desert. You may be dehydrated. The vapor from each hit on your ecig is your water supply you see coming out of your mouth. Foul taste and juices seeming off or no taste is usually a symptom. A couple of big glasses before bed tonight and start the day with a couple big glasses and it's my guess you'll ditch the BVDs. Hope it's all better soon.

PS. Don't spank yourself too hard if you need a cig while you get it all straight. They truly don't control you anymore. You'll be back vaping shortly. You may be at a point you can't stand the taste of a cig by now. Some gum or a lozenge might help you through the craves. Good vibes your way.

 

[Michael Curry]

Excellent advice there... Though it might be a bit chilly in Vancouver this time of year to be running around 'sans BVD's'



(Sorry Boodle - the BVD reference totally cracked me up - couldn't not comment lol)

 

[dormouse]

What PG/VG of juice? I like PG w/ 20% or less VG in cartos. Moves fast, keeps the stuffing damp near the coil best it can. And you could have crap cartos - what do they look like inside? If they have an inner seal and no defined center air channel (just a soft wad of formless stuff) they may be SLB or what I call use-once cartos.

And how are you filling the cartos? I open the carto and watch what I am doing. I fill blank cartos to stated capacity (I hold a tissue against the threaded end hole, blocking it so I can get the correct amount in). I make it take 18 drop s per ml capacity then way 30 seconds then add however many more drops it will soak up easily (usually 3-6). Then I clean it up, then I settle the carto, laying it on different sides for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing is damp. After that I just keep the carto damp. I can use a Boge carto for over 10 days and not singe it. I can get 7 days out of a KR808D-1 carto. Your mileage may vary. I'm a moderate vaper using 2-2.5ml per day.

Re Nebula - try the cartos from Bloogplanet or SmokelessImage. They are nice bottom coils and I find them a bit harder to singe, they fill easily. Give them a try.

Some new vapers try to use inappropriate thicknesses of juice in things. Tanks like 30% or less VG though some thinner 50/50's may work. Simple stuffing cartos - I think 20% or less VG makes them work easily and keep working longest - and I also avoid all juices that drop flavoring sediment in the stuffing (clogs cartos, gunks up attys and carto coils).

 

[hairball]

Toss the burnt cartomizer. You may also going through a bit of "tasting transition" right now. I think we all did. At some point, everything will taste just flat wrong to you or you'll lose your ability to taste for a few days. Drink tons of water while all of this is going on. Don't stop trying. You need to put on a fresh carto with new juice. I know it stinks to have lost the juice you already have in it but unless you can vape through it, it's toast also.

 

[Michael Curry]

hmmm.... Everything tastes burnt, all of the sudden, and all at the same time - different atty's and carto's?

Around the 2-3 week mark, my wife and I both had a sudden and drastic, but temporary shift in taste perception. Lasted a couple days.

Have you been exposed to anything out of the ordinary like cleaning solvents or anything? We never figured out if it was environmental, or just the process of detox and our taste buds coming back. We held our ground and rode the storm out, drank tons of water. The Dasani with a lemon 'tint' seemed to perk mine up better than just water. A couple days later, all was well again.

 

[Maximillian]

Heyas Silverkm,

+1 to everything Boodle said. Never vape a carto dry. I try to top them off before I even notice the taste/vapor decreasing, let alone a dry, sharp, burnt taste. I made that mistake with the first carto I used, and have been careful/lucky enough to avoid repeating it.

And yup, lots of water or sports drinks. Gotta keep hydrated. Although I'm a bad one for that. I rarely drink anything other than energy drinks or pepsi max (Bad Max. Bad)

Also, when I first tried my tanks, I THOUGHT I had cleaned the atties well, but I was getting this plasticky taste. Thought it was coming from the plastic tanks. Eventually took a hit directly off the atty without the tank, and got the same taste, so now I'm thinking that particular foul flavor came from not cleaning the atty well enough. Bought an ultrasonic cleaner, cleaned a couple tank atties, now have to learn to adjust the wicks *sigh*. I SO wanted to love the tanks.

And dripping, like Boodle said, is great when nothing else tastes good for some reason. Usually no burnt taste, and the simplest way to get a good, clean vape. pita dripping all the time, but worth it when you need it


Props on the effort to quit smoking! And, (grrr. You didn't leave me anything original to say Boodle!) don't kick yourself if you need a smoke. Light up, get your nic fix, and be astounded at how incredibly NASTY it tastes. I've been vaping a bit over a month, and without even trying, I'm down from over a pad to 3-4 smokes a day in the last week, to 1 analog all day yesterday. They just taste god aweful.


Happy vaping,
Maximillian the Moderately Mischievious

 

[Silverkm]

Thanks for all the advice. Got up to give it another shot. lol.. Can't sleep.

So they're the turbo carts or something (thinking smokeless image clone) they come prefilled. Friend of mine, who started me on vaping refills his about 3 times. I find it difficult to tell when they are running low and when to refill them. First time I nailed it. Second time, it was starting to lose flavor, refilled and it tasted burnt. I think I just need good good hardware lol. Really pushing the wife to let me buy some new stuff, but all her stuff (same kits) are working perfectly for her (much lighter smoker, one prefilled carto lasted her 4 days before even a refill) The juice I'm using to refill is 73% PG - 27% VG base, the cartos have a rubber piece I pop off, then it's a hole in the center, and what looks to be foam around, goes to about 3/4 the hight of the carto.

Thanks again for all your help, everyone.

 

[Michael Curry]

And dripping, like Boodle said, is great when nothing else tastes good for some reason. Usually no burnt taste, and the simplest way to get a good, clean vape. pita dripping all the time, but worth it when you need it

That's a good idea to try. I didn't try dripping when that phase hit me. In fact, I hadn't tried it till today. The difference is pretty impressive.

I didn't want to mess with putting drops in all the time either, but another member was saying good things about a new dripper, so I ran by the store this afternoon and tried one. Very nice, and the flavor and hit are great. I over-nic'd on 18mg. And I chain vape 24mg all day long in a carto.

 

[Silverkm]

I have 6 cigs left from when I started vaping, as much as I want one, I really don't think I could stand one lol. I work with a bunch of smokers, and I'm not a turn up my nose ex smoker, just can't stomache the smell or lingering odor. I really think my problem is the vaping dry, because I didn't want to mix flavors. So I was vaping them until there was no flavor then refilling. Think I'm going to be trying out some blanks next time and not the prefilled.

 

[Maximillian]

So I was vaping them until there was no flavor then refilling. Think I'm going to be trying out some blanks next time and not the prefilled.

Yup. Blanks are the way to go. Fill 'em yourself.

As for not mixing flavors, that where dripping comes in again. drip into a normal atty when trying out different liquids. Then when you find one you REALLY like, dedicate a carto to that flavor and keep topping that carto with that flavor 'till the carto wears out. At least, that's what I do


Happy Hunting,
Maximillian the Mostly Mischievious

 

[dormouse]

Re adding more juice to a carto

1 - I use a simple plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece (the round delrin and the plain clear colored plastic ones at LiteCigUSA.net fit in my cartos. Their swirled plastic ones were too tight. haven't tried the flat tip, and the fancy lathed acrylic ones around (Ming, pawn etc) don't fit for me. Anyway - the drip tip is eay to pull to look at the stuffing - if I am about to put a fresh battery on (hotter), or about to go out, or if I just think I haven't added juice for a while, I look at the stuffing. if the top of the stuffing has gone white (which mine does because I use juices with no sediment) then it could use some juice.

2. If anything seems off - if the flavor or vapor seems weak or wrong or the tiniest bit bitter - stop! and add juice. If the carto is getting abnormally warm then stop! and add juice. Occasioanlly I get fooled and a carto is vaping great and then singes a tiny bit - just stop and add juice. A little bit of bitter can help a tobacco juice but can ruin a sweet juice, killing the sweetness.

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Flavors - Pay attention to whether some flavors give you analog cravings. Some people cannot vape food flavors when they start vaping - gives them an analog craving as if they had just eaten. I was like that, though I could mix food flavors into a tobacco flavor. Some other new vapers can't vape tobacco flavors because they are reminded of cigarettes and want one. And some can vape any flavor right away. Figure out which you are. if certain flavors leave you unsatisfied or give you analog cravings then stop vaping those flavors alone for now - you could mix them with satisfying flavors or even alternate vaping the fun flavor and the satisfying one. Just pay attention to what satisfies you.

And remember to smell the vapor. It's up to you. Ecigs don't dump their aroma all over you the way cigs do. A huge part of flavor is aroma since your tongue can only sense sweet, salty, bitter, sour and umami (msg). A cherry juice should put a suitable amount of sweet and sour on your tongue but it's not cherry until you smell it. if you have trouble with losing flavor - try vaping contrasting flavors. I vape a sweet one and a hardly sweet cocoa tobacco. Each refreshes my taste buds for the other. And cold water can help refresh. Hot liquids and alcohol can dull your sense of smell and taste, as can flavors/aromas from stuff you just ate or aromas around you.

 

[JD1]

If they're complimentary flavors, you can come up with some pretty good mixes sometimes. Also, if you're willing to waste a little juice you can blow it out or spin it out and refill. Try to make sure you're not vaping too fast for the juice to wick and keep the coil moist.

 

[sliq]

buy new cartos, attys and juice.
do not buy a pack of cigs.

if i were your friend, and beside you right now, i will slap you hard in the face and say NO!
but im just a stranger in a forum, so here's me saying 'don't do it man... you've come a long way'

vape on. healthier bodies, healthier lungs.

 

[cavibird2005]

There is a flying J in Vancouver @
8655 Boundary Road
Vancouver, BC

They sell Mistic's @ every flying J I've ever been in. In a pinch; they're a great go to. Unlike many OTC PV's they actually work pretty well. They run $14 usd with 2 bats 2 cartos and a charger around here. Should tide you over until you can get more supplies.

Hope this helps

 

[Brianbotkiller]

Stay strong! It's not easy at first, and the hardest thng is finding juices that make you happy. Keep trying, and remember, you'll find something you like, soon!

 

[curts02]

i just got my roughstack yesterday and all my attys have tasted like that =(

 

[vaporbird]

Everything tastes burnt. The nebula is cartos, drained a carto, fill it with lots of juice... burnt taste. So I try the 510-t's - either absolutly nothing or lots of smoke and tastes burnt. Ego, for some reason tastes really sour (my reg tobacco flavor)

Same thing happened to me last night! I got one bad hit trying to drip (but using too little liquid, being a n00b) then for 8 hours everything tasted bad, even my *other* e-cigs. The taste must have been in my mouth.

I'm still trying to fix the messed up atty that started this mess. But it sounds like you may have grazed your palette. Since you are a smoker, if you still need nic, consider a pice of gum for now, your mouth should be back in order in about 15 hours if you are like me. Today I'm happily vaping along like it never happened.

Well except I'm suspicious of that atty!

 

[Silverkm]

Well this whole freakout situation may have worked... My wife is just inches away from letting my pullthe trigger and buy a provari. Due to all the help and support of everyone, I now have a better idea of what to get / do so this doesn't happen again. GOign to pick up the provari, couple batteries, and lots-o-cartos and and extra 2 atty's for dripping in emergency situations

 

[vaporbird]

Yay! I'm so glad things worked out for you!

Now are you saying if I just freak out enough my Husband will buy me a provari?

hmmmm...


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