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bovril

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Guys i have a problem, im really desperate here and this is my only hope of finding a solution!
So last month i ordered my first ecig from ebay, it came with an ego battery, a ce4 atomizer and 3 ibreathe liquids 34mg.
The vape was great, but then i ran out of juice.

So i ordered some other liquids from ebay and the problem is that it had a horrible taste! The vape burned my throat whenever i inhale/exhale. It's like it had a super spicey flavour! (No it's not dry hits)

I have ordered several different types of liquids from differnt stores and all kept giving me this burn in my throat. Used 2 different ego batteries and several differnt tanks such as the Kanger Protank 1 and 2 mini and the MT3.
Again i am sure it's not dry hits because i have experienced dry hits before.

I also ordered some ibreathe liquid (since the good juices were ibreathe) but they were also bad, but i don't think they were the same as the one i had got the first time, the bottles were differnt.

A strange thing is that i ordered 0mg liquid from Killer Juice - Natural Flavors Made in The USA and they were fine, but when i ordered 12mg liquid from the same store they had that bad taste!
Please don't say i have not got used to the nicotine because i smoke cigarettes.

I also tried 100% VG maybe i was allergic to PG or something....

So yea guys i'm calling for help here, im DESPERATE because i don't know what to do! I WANT TO VAPE!

EDIT: GUYS I DON'T THINK IT'S THE NICOTINE, I'VE TRIED 12MG WHICH IS LITTLE AND STILL GAVE ME THE SAME PROBLEM :/
 
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Try mixing that 18mg juice half and half in your tank with the 0mg, so you have like 9mg, and see if that works better for you. Not saying you arent used to nic, but you have to find the level youre comfortable vaping. Maybe that first batch of 36mg wasnt as strong as it was supposed to be or something?
 

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Good advice from the others. My first e-cig order, I bought two bottles of juice, and they gave me 6 or 7 free samples. Everything they sent - different vg/pg, but all 24 mg - were yummy. I ordered more, they sent more freebies, again all yummy. I tried juice from other vendors, and it was dreadful! Everything was just horrible.

I would have just stayed with my original vendor except that they stopped offering the pg/vg blend and lower nic I was looking for. I ended up learning to make my own.

But if you're getting bad juice from a vendor who had good stuff before, it probably is lack of steeping, although not all vendors consistently make a good product.
 

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First, don't toss the bad juice. They could just need some time to settle. Second, try a lower nicotine level. The peppery taste is nicotine. Not saying that your body isn't used to it. It does affect the taste of the juice however. The higher the level, the more peppery. You can also look into juice with a higher VG level, rather then PG. The higher VG softens the hit.
 

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Have all the juices but the zero one from Killer been 18 mg? If so, I'd say that you need to try juice with lower nicotine. I started at 12 mg and smoked about a pack and a half of Virginia Slim Lights.

I just checked and the ones from Killer juice were 12mg not 18mg....

is your ce4 bad have you cleaned or put a new one into service..?
sorry i dident read post properly...juice can be subjective....i only order juice from usa made vendors

It's not too strong, it burns my mouth. Even if i keep the vape in my mouth it keeps burning my mouth.
 

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First, don't toss the bad juice. They could just need some time to settle. Second, try a lower nicotine level. The peppery taste is nicotine. Not saying that your body isn't used to it. It does affect the taste of the juice however. The higher the level, the more peppery. You can also look into juice with a higher VG level, rather then PG. The higher VG softens the hit.

Yes i also tried 100% VG and still.
 

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As others have said, it sounds like the nicotine content is too high (don't confuse the nic level in a liquid with your body's tolerance for nicotine: higher nicotine--and higher PG--can make the flavors "spicier") or the liquids need time to steep.

In the mean time, if you need something RIGHT NOW that you can vape, try checking out a local B&M. Good ones usually steep their liquids long enough that the flavors are ready as soon as you leave the store.
 

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As others have said, it sounds like the nicotine content is too high (don't confuse the nic level in a liquid with your body's tolerance for nicotine: higher nicotine--and higher PG--can make the flavors "spicier") or the liquids need time to steep.

In the mean time, if you need something RIGHT NOW that you can vape, try checking out a local B&M. Good ones usually steep their liquids long enough that the flavors are ready as soon as you leave the store.

How can it be the nicotine if this happens with 12mg liquid?
I smoke cigarettes and the each cigrette puf is the same as a ecig puff with 18mg liquid.

And even if it was high, i don't think it would have burned my mouth :/
 

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How can it be the nicotine if this happens with 12mg liquid?
I smoke cigarettes and the each cigrette puf is the same as a ecig puff with 18mg liquid.

And even if it was high, i don't think it would have burned my mouth :/

Nic in cigs and nic in ecigs are not equal. They are different in particle size. That's why you never get a buzz from ecigs, the nic particle is about 10x larger in eliquid. So to say your body is used to nic from cigs is irrelevant. Your body has to get used to the new nicotine delivery method (ecig).

With that being said, it might not be the nic. It could be the PG or VG, burnt coils, or your sucking to hard and not letting the eliquid wick fast enough, etc...

There are many factors that can give you a burnt taste. What tank/clearomiser are you using? Did you try the same juice in a different tank?
 

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Nic in cigs and nic in ecigs are not equal. They are different in particle size. That's why you never get a buzz from ecigs, the nic particle is about 10x larger in eliquid. So to say your body is used to nic from cigs is irrelevant. Your body has to get used to the new nicotine delivery method (ecig).

With that being said, it might not be the nic. It could be the PG or VG, burnt coils, or your sucking to hard and not letting the eliquid wick fast enough, etc...

There are many factors that can give you a burnt taste. What tank/clearomiser are you using? Did you try the same juice in a different tank?

I tried both 50/50 and 100% VG and still. I have userd ce4, pro tanks and mt3 tanks with different flavours.
 

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Honestly, I get that too with certain juices - a burning sensation - and I still haven't been able to figure out what it is. Not an allergy, but something. It could be a component of the flavorings, or it could be the nicotine source (some vendors have a nic base that is more "peppery" tasting than others). If it's happening with the same juices you had before that didn't cause a problem, it could be that the numbing effect from the chemicals in cigarettes is wearing off.

Yes, the nicotine content in your smokes may be the same or less, but there are chemicals in cigarettes that actually numb the mucous membranes, allowing you to drag harder and deeper without feeling it. Those chemicals in aren't in our liquid, and your nerves are feeling it now. If you're concerned about an allergy, get some Benadryl. If it relieves the reaction then you ARE having some allergy to something in the juice.
 

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I buy juice from many different vendors and also make my own. Killer Juice has good juice. I buy 6mg nic and my husband buys 18mg from them. None of it tastes bad or burnt or harsh. I'd guarantee its probably either the topper you are using or you have an allergy to PG. however I'd doubt its an allergic reaction considering you had no issues with no nic. I'd say its your toppers.

I recently got my mom into vaping and I supply all her gear, toppers and juice. When she uses iclear 30s toppers her juices are good, but when she uses ce4s she says the juices taste bad and burnt sometimes. The juices I send her are from different vendors and some I make myself. So I don't send her ce4s anymore. I bought her extra 3 iclear30 s and several coil/wick refills. Her juices are great now.

Also, I smoked for over 20 years at 2 packs a day and I dropped down to 6mg nic juice because anything above that is just too harsh on my throat. Some people just can't do higher nic levels in juices even tho they were heavy smokers. The nicotine delivery is just different. On the other hand, my husband smoked around the same yet he can drip 18mg nic all day long with no bad tastes. My Mom is the same as me and can't do over 6mg of nic. Higher nic gags her.

If I were you I'd lower my nic to 6mg nic and buy better toppers. The iclear30s is a good topper.

Good luck. :vapor:
 

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I buy juice from many different vendors and also make my own. Killer Juice has good juice. I buy 6mg nic and my husband buys 18mg from them. None of it tastes bad or burnt or harsh. I'd guarantee its probably either the topper you are using or you have an allergy to PG. however I'd doubt its an allergic reaction considering you had no issues with no nic. I'd say its your toppers.

I recently got my mom into vaping and I supply all her gear, toppers and juice. When she uses iclear 30s toppers her juices are good, but when she uses ce4s she says the juices taste bad and burnt sometimes. The juices I send her are from different vendors and some I make myself. So I don't send her ce4s anymore. I bought her extra 3 iclear30 s and several coil/wick refills. Her juices are great now.

Also, I smoked for over 20 years at 2 packs a day and I dropped down to 6mg nic juice because anything above that is just too harsh on my throat. Some people just can't do higher nic levels in juices even tho they were heavy smokers. The nicotine delivery is just different. On the other hand, my husband smoked around the same yet he can drip 18mg nic all day long with no bad tastes. My Mom is the same as me and can't do over 6mg of nic. Higher nic gags her.

If I were you I'd lower my nic to 6mg nic and buy better toppers. The iclear30s is a good topper.

Good luck. :vapor:

Thanks for the reply but i used several differnt tanks such as protank mini 1 ,2 and 3 and MT3 so i don't think it's the tank :/
 

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I know you have said that you don't believe it's the nicotine causing the problem, but perhaps it is not the nicotine itself, but the nicotine base that is used. Many vendors buy from the same source, so if the different liquids you have tried were all sourced from the same place, that might have something to do with it. Maybe try something advertised as "all organic" like Velvet Cloud Vapor, Tetra-Vape, or Open Source?
 
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