I need master minds!!

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quovadis

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Hi guys,
I'm going to post a long message here.
I have been doing a lot of testing (spent lot's of money) and these are the discoveries i have made.
Some are statements some are questions, i need to connect the dots :



1. Pure Copper conducts electricity in the PV to the atty better than aluminum or brass. True or false?

2. Copper is good but tarnishes quickly. Gold would be better? True or false?

3. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 2.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works perfectly with a single 3.7 volt cell gives plenty of vapor. True or false?

4. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 3 ohms, and has 4 holes, works well with a single 3.7 volt cell but gives less vapor than the 2.5 ohm one. True or false?

5 A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 3.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works badly with a single 3.7 volt cell and gives very little vapor. True or false?

6 A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 2.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works badly with two 3 volt tenergy batteries, it heats up immediately, the vapor tastes hot and burnt. True or false?

5. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 3~3.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works somewhat well with two 3 volt tenergy batteries, but it heats up quite, fast, needs rotation, lots of juice to keep it from dying.
True or false?

6. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 4.5~5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works much better with two 3 volt tenergy batteries, it heats up less quickly, and i can press the button for a longer time. I get a really good vape perfect taste, and the vapor temperature is perfect. True or false?

7. I have more brand new custom atty's ranging from 6 to 8 ohms.
They do not perform on 6 volts. They barely sizzle, give no vapor.
They do however perform a little better on two 3.7 volt batteries. True or false?

8 These custom atty's rated at a higher resistance work amazingly well with a prodigy pass through and a tekkeon powerpack that has variable voltage.
However the atty only performs amazingly when the voltage is set to 9~12 volts. True or false?

9. An 801 atty, with multiple holes, that has a resistance of 2.5 to 3 ohms, will give a tight draw on 6 volts. It will blurp and maybe die. True or false?

10. The same atty has tons of airflow on a single cell 3.7 volt battery. True or false ?

11. An atty with a low resistance under 3ohms may be tripping my Tenergy 3 volt batteries? True or false?

12. Any atty with a resistance above 4.5ohms rarely trips my Tenergy batteries. True or false ?

13. High resistance atty's above 5 ohms cannot trip my tenergy batteries (unless the battery is defective to start with). True or false?

14. The Chinese do not make 6 volt mods. True or false?

15. However the chinese make all the 801 atty's. True or false?

16. Because of a potential FDA ban nobody has really bothered to do some scientific research on how to make our products better? True or false?

17. There has been progress in engineering and aesthetic design, but rarely has anyone focused on the real problems such as atty's and batteries?
True or false?

18. What if !! we found the real problems and causes, instead of posting placebos and temporary fixes?

19. I think i am on the right track. However, I am not a supplier, not a technician. I do love vaping. And i want to get it right.

Anyone??8-o












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Well. That's a lot of questions.. lol

I think that as you stated, there is no real motivation much investment into new attys or battys until there is some more definate determination of how the law will effect sales in near future.

Please. someone make a 6v 1 cell batty and a better 801 atty!!!!!

Then one more thing, SUPPLIERS, Please carry some 6v batteries and chargers!!
You sell the mods, Sell also the batteries... I know a few do.. congrats!
 

trog100

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I'm going to post a long message here.
I have been doing a lot of testing (spent lot's of money) and these are the discoveries i have made.
Some are statements some are questions, i need to connect the dots :



1. Pure Copper conducts electricity in the PV to the atty better than aluminum or brass. True or false?

copper conducts better than aluminum,, but where and e cig is concerned its a little irrelevant..

2. Copper is good but tarnishes quickly. Gold would be better? True or false?

true but inpractical..

3. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 2.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works perfectly with a single 3.7 volt cell gives plenty of vapor. True or false?

kind off.. he he

4. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 3 ohms, and has 4 holes, works well with a single 3.7 volt cell but gives less vapor than the 2.5 ohm one. True or false?

true the lower the resistance the hotter the coil gets..

5 A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 3.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works badly with a single 3.7 volt cell and gives very little vapor. True or false?

dunno but see the above answer..

6 A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 2.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works badly with two 3 volt tenergy batteries, it heats up immediately, the vapor tastes hot and burnt. True or false?

probably but how wet the heater coil is plays a big part..

5. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 3~3.5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works somewhat well with two 3 volt tenergy batteries, but it heats up quite, fast, needs rotation, lots of juice to keep it from dying.
True or false?

true-ish

6. A brand new custom built 801 atomizer reading 4.5~5 ohms, and has 4 holes, works much better with two 3 volt tenergy batteries, it heats up less quickly, and i can press the button for a longer time. I get a really good vape perfect taste, and the vapor temperature is perfect. True or false?

false nothing is "perfect"..

7. I have more brand new custom atty's ranging from 6 to 8 ohms.
They do not perform on 6 volts. They barely sizzle, give no vapor.
They do however perform a little better on two 3.7 volt batteries. True or false?

false

8 These custom atty's rated at a higher resistance work amazingly well with a prodigy pass through and a tekkeon powerpack that has variable voltage.
However the atty only performs amazingly when the voltage is set to 9~12 volts. True or false?

i wont even attempt that one

9. An 801 atty, with multiple holes, that has a resistance of 2.5 to 3 ohms, will give a tight draw on 6 volts. It will blurp and maybe die. True or false?

false but they all die in the end..

10. The same atty has tons of airflow on a single cell 3.7 volt battery. True or false ?

true but i would "tons" is meaningless so false but it should give the same

11. An atty with a low resistance under 3ohms may be tripping my Tenergy 3 volt batteries? True or false?

possibly

12. Any atty with a resistance above 4.5ohms rarely trips my Tenergy batteries. True or false ?

less possibly

13. High resistance atty's above 5 ohms cannot trip my tenergy batteries (unless the battery is defective to start with). True or false?

who the f-ck knows..

14. The Chinese do not make 6 volt mods. True or false?

true

15. However the chinese make all the 801 atty's. True or false?

true

16. Because of a potential FDA ban nobody has really bothered to do some scientific research on how to make our products better? True or false?

false

17. There has been progress in engineering and aesthetic design, but rarely has anyone focused on the real problems such as atty's and batteries?
True or false?

false

18. What if !! we found the real problems and causes, instead of posting placebos and temporary fixes?

19. I think i am on the right track. However, I am not a supplier, not a technician. I do love vaping. And i want to get it right.

Anyone??8-o

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okay i was daft enough to have go.. he he

trog

ps... we fit gold plated atomizer/battery connections in our SDs.. he he he
 
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trog100

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Well. That's a lot of questions.. lol

I think that as you stated, there is no real motivation much investment into new attys or battys until there is some more definate determination of how the law will effect sales in near future.

Please. someone make a 6v 1 cell batty and a better 801 atty!!!!!

Then one more thing, SUPPLIERS, Please carry some 6v batteries and chargers!!
You sell the mods, Sell also the batteries... I know a few do.. congrats!

out of the mouths of babes comes forth wisdom... sometimes.. he he

with current technology there is no such thing.. lead acid is 2 volts per cell... alkaline 1.5.. then we have 1.2 and 3 or 4 for lithium...

the voltage isnt the problem.. the capacity for a given size is the problem.. one simple fact.. a battery thats up to the job of effective powering an e cig all day and every day cannot... repeat cannot fit into a cigarette sized tube..

e cigs were designed for light occasional use.. not all day and every day use..

one simple fact that folks just will not grasp... and one simple fact that is the key to it all...

but as a seller and maker we think one lithium cell of sufficient capacity does the job okay... i smoke a single cell type e cig.. i know it works okay.. if it didnt i would alter it... he he he.. just bear in mind i do have the ability to...

trog
 
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