I realize this has been asked before

[Bob Digi]

But I am completely oblivious as to how these devices work. What is analog? What is its counter part? What's the difference between atomizers and cartomizers? I'm looking for an e-cig that allows for an easy transition refill process. In other words how does one ensure you receive your order before your previous cartridges run out? I'm looking for an e-cig that closely resembles an actual cigarette. (I don't want to be vaping from what looks like vuvuzela)


Thanks,
Long time lurker, first time poster

 

[BardicDruid]

Well if you read through "The Wonderful World of vaping" you'll then have a good idea of what we're talking about and be able to make a more informed choice on your first e-cig.

 

[Dioxyde]

An analog is slang for a plain 'ol a cigarette. It's counter part being an ecig of course.

The atomizer is the heating element, which connects to the cartridge, the cartridge holds the nicotine liquid.

A cartomizer is an atomizer with a built in cartridge. They typically perform better in all areas than using an atomizer+cartridge.

The only way to ensure you don't run out is to order ahead of time, you'll get an idea of how much you're going to need after a week or so of use.

Sad to say there simply isn't a good ecig that looks like an actual cigarette, the decent ones have to be bigger than that unless you want to be charging it 10 times a day.

 

[misplacedsooner]

Well if you read through "The Wonderful World of Vaping" you'll then have a good idea of what we're talking about and be able to make a more informed choice on your first e-cig.

true, im new too and ive read this series a few times and continue to go back to it for reference. by the way an analog is a cancer stick. read alot then read more and if you get stuck or dont understand just ask as there are tons of good people here all the time wanting to help you.

 

[Bob Digi]

Thanks for clearing it up people. I really appreciate the prompt responses.

Are atomizers and cartomizers interchangeable from brand to brand? In other words could a cartomizer from Green Smoke work with the remaining parts of its competitor?

What is the best starter kit keeping in mind cost efficiency?

 

[Techwipe]

Thanks for clearing it up people. I really appreciate the prompt responses.

Are atomizers and cartomizers interchangeable from brand to brand? In other words could a cartomizer from Green Smoke work with the remaining parts of its competitor?

What is the best starter kit keeping in mind cost efficiency?

I started with the Provape-1, good introduction, 510 carto, then I moved to the eGo lcd drip kit, also 510, I love every minute of it.

 

[Roach]

Thanks for clearing it up people. I really appreciate the prompt responses.

Are atomizers and cartomizers interchangeable from brand to brand? In other words could a cartomizer from Green Smoke work with the remaining parts of its competitor?

What is the best starter kit keeping in mind cost efficiency?

yes and no. You'd have to get the same size threads to interchange between different brands. 501 stuff works with other 501 gear, kr808d-1 stuff works with most other kr808d-1 gear. adapters are available to mix sizes but it's probably easier to just concentrate on one type.

I still use the kr808d-1 Volt from smokelessimage.com. It's the system I started with. however I use 2 starter kits because I found that one battery didn't charge in the time it took me to use up the other.

you might have a better result, I vape a lot. but get one of the systems that is expandable and uses common components. 501 or kr808d-1. avoid those mall kiosk or gas station models that don't list the thread size. They often can not be used with other components.

you'll need a bottle of e-juice eventually to refill those cartomizers but it's ok to start with a good selection of pre-filled.

 

[Jewls]

I started e-cigs several years ago with a GreenSmoke. It was very very expensive. After about a month I started using a kr808(It still looked similar to a real cig size). As the evolution of the e-cig progressed I got a Puresmoker V2(a tube mod that was very large and hard on my finger)...then to an EGO. Very reasonable and very interchangable with 510 atties and cartos. I have just moved to the bottom feeders and now my search for the perfect e-cig is over. With that being said it was a very expensive venture..but so worth it to stay off analogs. I would start with an EGO(I still use it too). I just won a new GoGo kit that is simalar so an EGO but it is not interchangable with anything...different atties, carts ect. I gave it to a friend of mine to quit smoking and she is very happy with it.

 

[hairball]

analog - a cigarette

counter part - not sure about this one or what you're referring too

atomizer - the heating element on an ecig. Can be used with a drip tip for dripping your eliquid or you can use a cartidge which has filler that you fill your eliquid.

cartomizer - it is an atomizer and cartridge combination. Very simple and easy to use. Fill it with your favorite eliquid and screw onto the battery. Vape as normal.

As for ensuring you receive your oder before you run out, order extra of everything. Only you know how much eliquid and hardware you'll go through.

Something that resembles an actual cigarette is a Joye 510 but you'll find that constantly recharging batteries will become a pain. I recommend going with a riva or ego kit from liberty-flights.com. Use code october20 for 20% off your total. I also recommend a box of Boge cartomizers, a drip tip, and assortment of eliquids ranging from 18-24mgs. You didn't state how much you currently smoke but this is the average mgs.

 

[Roach]

if you're worried about cost efficiency you might do best with an EGO or similar large battery. They are not cig sized. Larger battery, bigger carto, plenty of selections, longer battery times between charging. Most users end up buying the bigger batteries anyway so you would be cheaper skipping the cig sized units and jumping right into a big battery.

And oddly enough they are about the same price as the cig sized systems.

 

[tofucute]

vuvuzela?

 

[dormouse]

Analog is like an analog watch vs digital watch, analog being a cigarette and digital being an e-cig

Atomizer is a heating element used with a plastic and stuffing cart as part of a 3-piece ecig setup. The carts are a bit cranky, may give an uneven experience, can dump their juice and often need frequent topping off with juice. A cart can last a long long time - can be cleaned, restuffed with a particular blue foam or other material, etc. You can use any thickness (any PG/VG) of juice as long as it flows at least as fast as you vape. PG is thin and lets through the most flavor, nicotine TH and nicotine irritation. VG is thick and dulls everything PG lets through but adds thicker visible vapor.

A cartomizer is a combined one-piece cart with built in atomizer coil - they hold more eliquid, generally need liquid less often, provide a more even vaping experience, won't dump all of their juice. But they are disposable. A couple of higher end kinds are supposedly designed to be cleaned and some people try to clean normal stuffing cartos with mixed results. The stuffing cannot be replaced. I just use for for a week or more then start a new one. They cost $2-3 each. Most cartos work best with thin juices. I use juices with 20% VG or less. The most popular 3-piece ecig threadings also have cartomizers available but almost all are blank cartomizers. The most popular 2-piece ecig threading (KR808D-1) has plenty of prefilled and blank cartomizers. Cartomizers are probably the most popular way to vape.

You buy stuff in advance to stay stocked. You can never know when vendors will run short on carts or cartos (and BTW you probably never need to own more than 1 pack of carts ut you should keep cartos stocked). And sometimes a vendor will run out of a juice flavoring or if the juices are made for them in China they may run out of your nicotine level in your favorite juices.

And re buying in advance - that includes SPARE PARTS. If you use atomizers a lot, you should have at least 3: 2 to swap while cleaning one, and 1 total spare. It is good to have a 3rd battery (and I super strongly recommend manual batteries). it is good to have spare charging cables (plus handy to have one at work and enough at home to charge 2-3 batteries at once). New vapors are the ones who run out of juice or cartos (or carts if they didn't buy juice), who have no spares and whoops kill two attys and are left with no others and no cartomizers, etc. Veteran vapers have lots of juices and various cartos they tried and multiple models of ecigs.

 

[sln88]

I have the Volt from smokeless image. It is a kr808-d1 set up. It is cig sized. It works for me, but I am generally home and just switch batteries on the charger when one runs out. I would say I have been switching them 2-3 times a day. There is a newer version called the Elite that is supposed to have a longer lasting battery.
You have to figure out if that would work for you. If you are working and unable to charge your batteries, that might be a problem. They do sell USB passthrus and personal charging cases that can help with that.

Its hard to decide. Good luck with whatever you pick!

 

[BakaGaijin83]

Seems like the factual questions have all been answered three times.

In terms of which e-cig to get? If you're set on having something that looks like an analogue, I think a Joye 510 (it goes by many names, but most anything with "510" in it means about the same thing) is a good way to go. It's about cigarette sized and it comes in white if you like that. I'm pretty sure they all have blue lights, but that's probably just e-cigs in general.

I can't compare it to a kr808 since I haven't tried one, but since the most common larger battery e-cig (Joye Ego) uses the same equipment, it's convenient to upgrade if performance trumps appearance to you in the future.

Personally, I bought a 510 and upgraded within a couple months, so I'd just recommend getting and Ego right off the batt. It's much less conspicuous than you might think. Even with the Ego, strangers still try to bum smokes off me on a regular basis. I will admit though that and Ego will feel super heavy compared to a cigarette, and I do sometimes miss the lightness of my 510s.

 

[jk6060]

newbie here, but hearing lots of good review on ego 510.

 

[rwnielsen]

Well if you read through "The Wonderful World of Vaping" you'll then have a good idea of what we're talking about and be able to make a more informed choice on your first e-cig.

It starts here
Tons of info in 6 parts, Well written and fun to read.
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