I think I am doing something wrong (or have REALLY bad luck)

[jSmith]

I have used a JoyTech 510 with regular and Oakley tanks, Ego-T with a CE4 cleartomizer, and then I switched that to a DCT cartomizer/tank. ALL of them have leaked!

The 510 tanks all leaked all over my hands. I wasted so much liquid with those that I was getting fed up; that is why I switched to Ego-T. At first I didn't want the large batteries because they seemed so masculine but I decided to embrace my tomboy side and go for it. I have had better luck with CE4s and DCTs but still get leaks. The leaks on these are at the battery and don't flood out but the tanks gurgle and there is less vapor and terrible throat hit. To get the CE4 to work I have to regularly loosen the tip to let fluid out of the area around the metal tip at the top and wipe the battery connection areas down. If I do a few dry hits when the gurgle starts it will get better but uses a lot of fluid.

The DCT didn't last me an entire day. It ran my ego battery down like it was a 510. I use a mix of caramel and cappuccino flavor at 6mg or 0mg (or I use just caramel) and I get a flavor like burnt popcorn at first, after an hour or so it taste better and vapes wonderfully. A few hours later and it's like sucking through a coffee stirrer and there is much less vapor.

I have gotten my husband to start vaping, my sister and her fiance followed our lead, we even have our kid's coaches vaping instead of smoking now. I am glad that no one else is having these issues (well my sister had the issues with the 510 but none with her ego) but I am getting discouraged. I don't know what I am ding wrong but since I am the only one having so much trouble I think it must be me.

Any ideas? Suggestion? Help please...I know this was kinda long but I wanted to get enough information out so I can get to happily vaping.

 

[Tech_Dan]

I am no expert but it sounds like you are over juicing your devices. That gurgling sound coming from the atomizer is not normal and I have only experienced it when I have over juiced the device. Try cleaning it out with the instructions sticky'd in the Joye 510 thread.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

I have used a JoyTech 510 with regular and Oakley tanks, Ego-T with a CE4 cleartomizer, and then I switched that to a DCT cartomizer/tank. ALL of them have leaked!

The 510 tanks all leaked all over my hands. I wasted so much liquid with those that I was getting fed up; that is why I switched to Ego-T. At first I didn't want the large batteries because they seemed so masculine but I decided to embrace my tomboy side and go for it. I have had better luck with CE4s and DCTs but still get leaks. The leaks on these are at the battery and don't flood out but the tanks gurgle and there is less vapor and terrible throat hit. To get the CE4 to work I have to regularly loosen the tip to let fluid out of the area around the metal tip at the top and wipe the battery connection areas down. If I do a few dry hits when the gurgle starts it will get better but uses a lot of fluid.

The DCT didn't last me an entire day. It ran my ego battery down like it was a 510. I use a mix of caramel and cappuccino flavor at 6mg or 0mg (or I use just caramel) and I get a flavor like burnt popcorn at first, after an hour or so it taste better and vapes wonderfully. A few hours later and it's like sucking through a coffee stirrer and there is much less vapor.

I have gotten my husband to start vaping, my sister and her fiance followed our lead, we even have our kid's coaches vaping instead of smoking now. I am glad that no one else is having these issues (well my sister had the issues with the 510 but none with her ego) but I am getting discouraged. I don't know what I am ding wrong but since I am the only one having so much trouble I think it must be me.

Any ideas? Suggestion? Help please...I know this was kinda long but I wanted to get enough information out so I can get to happily vaping.

Jsmith. Glad you're here.
I read many many posts from vapers having same issues you describe.
I've only been seriously vaping 3 1/2 months & I'm not interested in getting into all those hassles so I just use cartomizers. Yes I know that's boring. But it's simple.
Here's my setup:
Kgo
Boge 2.0 carto
Or
Smokteck 1.7 carto
Gooood juice. Yum
I'm happy. No fuss. No muss
Vape on

 

[sailorman]

First off, replace the cartomizer that came with your DCT with SINGLE coil cartomizers. They'll work better and solve your battery issue with your eGo-T. You also need to enlarge the hole in your cartomizer, or get cartomizers with 2 holes. What VG/PG ratio are you using? Thicker juice needs a larger hole or your carto won't be replenished sufficiently. That's what's causing the vapor to drop off. You have to be sure to completely fill the cartomizer before you fill the tank. If you get any burning taste, it means there's not enough juice in the carto. Once you burn that filler inside, the carto is ruined and you'll never get that burnt taste out.

If your eGo tank system is leaking and gurgling, you're not alone and not doing anything wrong. That's just what they do and there are a million posts here from people who have had the same problem. Almost everyone eventually gives up on them and ends up just using cartomizers or clearomizers.

If your CE4 is leaking from the battery end and gurgles, you're getting juice inside the tube, probably from the top, and it's flooding. Try filling it less full and make sure not to get any juice in the top airway. That seem like a common complaint with CE4s though, so I don't really have any other solutions for that.

If you want to avoid all that hassle and, especially, the leaking. Get a Vivi Nova tank. Yeah, it'll look a little top-heavy on an eGo, but it absoultely won't leak or gurgle. It's easy to fill and it tastes great. Plus, you don't have to use a new cartomizer all the time. You just replace a tiny part if the coil ever burns out, so it's cheaper to operate than a DCT tank.

 

[jSmith]

I don't fill the CE4 past the 1.6mL mark, I would go lower (since that is the top line) but the wick does't go much longer. I was at the vape store earlier today and the owner said there are new CE4s coming that have longer wicks. I will try again with the DCT and fill the carto so I can see if that will be better. I will have to go purchase the single coil cartos and give them a try A.S.A.P.

I really am starting to like the amount of vapor I get from the ego battery (when the tank acts right) so I probably won't go back to 510s unless it is something really good that gives me the vapor I love.

The idea of a tank that never leaks or gurgles is REALLY appealing to me. I have come to enjoy vaping a whole lot. I started smoking at 15 and after dozens of attempts to quit over 16+ years vaping is the only thing that has actually got me away from cigarettes and cigars. I was a pencil/straw biter before I started smoking and I know it has a lot to do with my addiction so the throat hit and vapor are more important to me than the nicotine (gums, patches, etc. only made me want to smoke more).

Someone told me today that it could be the sweetener in the caramel that is causing the problem but my sis vapes the same flavors and doesn't have problems...she vapes a lot less than me though so that may have something to do with it. It has been helping me cut back on sweets too (added health bonus!) and I really love the flavor so I REALLY don't want to switch flavor either.

The mixture in my liquid if 60% VG and 40%PG...it's sooo yummy...like having a Werther's Original.

I'm glad this forum is here because I would like to find a solution. I don't think I would be too happy if I had to put off vaping.

 

[jSmith]

So, does this mean that it's not me?

I still don't get why everyone else is doing fine but me.

There are at least 9 others around me that followed my lead and switched to vaping and they all got kits like mine (go for what you know) they are all still absolutely in love and I am fighting the urge to through mine out the window and buy a pack of mini cigars. I am glad to have quit analogs but it seems I can't get this quite right.

It was perfect for the first week with my 510 then the leaking started, even when I bought new batteries, atties, and tanks. I had perfection for about a day with my ego but at it's worst it is better than that little atties and tanks to the 510. I just want a good throat hit and a lot of vapor in my favorite flavors (caramel, chocolate, cappuccino).

Is it the flavor? How I hit? Am I really just unlucky.
I want to try buying the tanks, cartos, atties, that you all have suggested but how can I avoid the same issue with them

 

[Caridwen]

I would try a box of Low Resistance cartomizers and see how that works for you.

Revisit the whole tank thing at a later date if you chose. Use the tanks to test juice. You fill the cartomizer with about a ml of e-liquid and that's it. You do have to top it off fairly frequently. Or, you can fill up two or three for the day. They're disposable (as most things are with vaping) but if you check the Deals and Steals thread, someone has them for less than $5.00 for a box of 5.

If leaking is your issue, they don't leak.

Batteries last about 1 hour per 100 mah. If your using anything low resistance, probably about 1/2 that.

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

Just so you don't feel so alone, I hear Ya'. I have a lot of experience with CE4 (Star Dust, Vision eGo Clearomizer), and have had many of the same things going on. When the draw tightens up on them I take the tip off to let some air in. I think it is creating a vacuum in the tank. As you said, the juice runs down from the top ring. Why else is it up there? If you replace the tip you only get a few draws before it tightens up again. If you leave the tip loose, and are careful when you tip, you get lots more vapor. Lots more vapor = lots of juice used. And when they start to leak at the battery connector, I toss them, they never get better. Long wicks will not change any of this.

I'm having some luck with the small Fluxomizers, not so much with the 1.8ml ones. I am also waiting for the Vivi Nova 2.5 to arrive in my mailbox, although I now hear that the 2.0 may be better. Either way, I can cut back the wicks on the 2.5 if I like. Have a look at them.

I never had luck with cartos, so I have no desire to have a tank with a carto. The Nova seems to be what I would have the most luck with. Here's Hoping!

Relax, Enjoy!

 

[Samyaza]

Here's a really good video on how to fill a tank to avoid pressure that makes the tanks leak. I don't know if they mention it in the video, but fill the cartomizer first as well and take 2 puffs on the tank without firing the battery.

As mentioned above the 1.5ohm dual coil cartos do run the ego batteries down really fast, so grab a pack of single coils, or if you feel up to the challenge - Boge XL cartos, but you will need to punch those yourself.

 

[sailorman]

I'd tend to think you either got some bad CE4s or, like XP3 is sayin, it's somewhat the nature of the beast with them. I don't think the long wicks will help, per se, but that would be the CE4+ and they're a new version. Maybe they'll be put together a little differently or tighter or something. If they leak anywhere other than the connector, the new plastic may help. It's supposed to be less crack prone, which means they're using a softer plastic and, judging by experience with fluxomizers, that seems to hold a better seal.

Other than going to cartomizers, you do have options. I haven't tried them, but it might be worth checking out the E1 or E3 clearomizers. I've heard good reviews of both of them. Take a look at Youtube.

I still heartily recommend the Vivi Novas though. At some point, looks become secondary and, if you looked, you could probably find some kind of a skirt or adapter or something to make them fit more seamlessly with your eGo. They're not huge or anything. The diameter is about the same as a nickel. They just look a bit precarious perched on top of the skinny tip of an ego.

 

[occultangle]

Yeah, everything always leaked for me too, and it drove me crazy. Especially the CE4s because I like the way they look and want them to work. But like Sailorman has been saying the Vivi Nova really is great. It is hands down the least leaky thing I have ever used. I use an eGo twist and it does look funny, but I still keep using it because it's the best working thing I have ever tried. And yes there are thread cones that make it look better. But it still looks like my magic wand or something.

 

[swedishfish]

Due to the frustration factor you've been going through, I'd just get some cartos for the time being. I'm not saying it's a better vape (or worse vape) but it's not a leaky vape. I used them about a year before I ever tried clearos or tanks of any kind and they were fine. As long as you get them wet.

 

[sailorman]

.... But it still looks like my magic wand or something.

LOL!! I hadn't thought of that but that's a pretty good description. What the heck though. It IS magic!!

 

[new kid]

I'm having the same problem and feel the same way, you are not alone! I like vaping, but it is driving me crazy. Leaks, constant battery changes, tossing brand new cartridges/cartomizers that are burnt. It seams like there is no quality control in the industry. Even if you buy the "name brand" stuff it is hit or miss.

I started with the Blu, but the batteries had to be recharged after only a few uses. So looked for something better and went with an EGo- C kit. I started with the atomizer/cartridge route first , since that is what came with it and that lame. No flavor, no vapor, almost always burnt.

I then tried cartomizers, but no matter what I do they are burnt, even after I fill them and let them sit all night. When I can get them to work I get little or no vapor I'm using EGo-C with Boge LR cartomizers. I also have a EGo twist which works better, but the cartomizers are just slightly better (even the standard ones that came with the kit).

So, I got the CE4's with the long wick and having the same problem. Gone through 2 of them in 2 weeks (both started leaking today). I was about to get an LT today to try and get a decent battery life, but with all the problems I'm having not sure if I want to spend anymore.

I spend most my time cleaning up, tweaking this or that and nothing gets me past a few hits. Dripping works, but it is a real pain. Analogs were so much easier. I totally understand.

 

[sailorman]

Get your LT. Better yet, save 30% and get the Vtube from Apolloecigs.com. Take all the money you save on the Vtube and get some Vivi Novas. I will personally guarantee you that your leaking problems will end immediately. I suggest the V2 instead of the V2.5. They're cheaper and, although you may be skeptical, the short wicks work and taste better than the long ones. Trust me.

You will have no tweaking to do with the Vivi Nova V2. Unscrew the cap. Fill it up, give it a few shakes and a minute for the wicks to soak and then vape. You might want to rinse it out first if you're the paranoid type. Lay it on its side all day, shake it up, turn it upside down and, if it leaks, I'll buy it back from you. If you get the stainless or chrome Vtube, get a 510/510 adapter because the center pole is spring loaded and can cut off the air draw on certain tanks. The Aluminum model doesn't need the adapter.

 

[new kid]

sailorman, thanks for the pointers. I did order the LT from Apollo, price was hard to beat and a 1 year warranty. I am also ordering 2 of the Vivi Nova V2's. I have seen positive reviews of them as well. Your conviction convinced me.

I did mess with the clearomizers last night. I removed the tip and cleaned the silicon at the connection point. Hum...stopped leaking. So I washed leaking ones and I will see what happens.

Now I just need another battery for the LT. Hard to figure out which is flat top and which is not. I wanted something with more life than the ones on Apollo so I am looking around. I hear the panny's are really good.

Thanks again. I will post back the results.

Get your LT. Better yet, save 30% and get the Vtube from Apolloecigs.com. Take all the money you save on the Vtube and get some Vivi Novas. I will personally guarantee you that your leaking problems will end immediately. I suggest the V2 instead of the V2.5. They're cheaper and, although you may be skeptical, the short wicks work and taste better than the long ones. Trust me.

You will have no tweaking to do with the Vivi Nova V2. Unscrew the cap. Fill it up, give it a few shakes and a minute for the wicks to soak and then vape. You might want to rinse it out first if you're the paranoid type. Lay it on its side all day, shake it up, turn it upside down and, if it leaks, I'll buy it back from you. If you get the stainless or chrome Vtube, get a 510/510 adapter because the center pole is spring loaded and can cut off the air draw on certain tanks. The Aluminum model doesn't need the adapter.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

sailorman, thanks for the pointers. I did order the LT from Apollo, price was hard to beat and a 1 year warranty. I am also ordering 2 of the Vivi Nova V2's. I have seen positive reviews of them as well. Your conviction convinced me.

I did mess with the clearomizers last night. I removed the tip and cleaned the silicon at the connection point. Hum...stopped leaking. So I washed leaking ones and I will see what happens.

Now I just need another battery for the LT. Hard to figure out which is flat top and which is not. I wanted something with more life than the ones on Apollo so I am looking around. I hear the panny's are really good.

Thanks again. I will post back the results.

Excellent choices all around. As for batteries, here's the site for Panasonics: Batteries-Chargers-Flashlights-PC gear-Only The Best Sailorman recommended this site & the batteries to order; I ordered a couple for $7.99 each (with free shipping!) but can't remember the P/N offhand. I'll find it & post it here shortly. Great deals on batteries!

 

[sailorman]

The batteries you want are the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mah IMR Hybrid.

There are a couple of them, so make sure you get the gray ones with no button and a flat top.

Here they are: http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-chargers/imr-panasonic-cgr18650ch-10a-18650-rechargeable-battery-cell-high-drain

 

[new kid]

Thanks! Ordering 2 now . I thought those were the right ones, but I wasn't sure. Was just about to start searching the forum.

The batteries you want are the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mah IMR Hybrid.

There are a couple of them, so make sure you get the gray ones with no button and a flat top.

Here they are: CGR18650CH Panasonic 18650 Li-Mn-Li-ion CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Rechargeable IMR Hybrid Battery Cell

 

[new kid]

Everything finally came the last few days. The VV Tube from Apollo and the ViVi I got from MadVapes.

Let me start out by saying that when I started vaping I had a mental picture of what it would be like (as I guess others would). I was not sure what that really was but I felt I would know it when I found it. Been through blues, ego's, twists and now this.

All I can say is .... WOW. This is what I have been looking for. The VV Tube stands on its own at improving the vaping quality (vapor production, TH and flavor). Throw the ViVi on it and it is another dimension. Not only does it not leak on me, it vapes like nothing I have tried before. The batteries that it came with lasted me twice as long as the ego batteries I had. I let my wife try it and now she has the VV Tube from Apollo on the way.

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm also passing on what you help me learn. I help a friend get started vaping and now another friend wants to try it.