I think I'll get a silver bullet. Question?

[jiff]

Yeah, I've done A LOT of "e-window shopping" to try to find what to buy. I figured I wanted an e-cig that would have a long battery life... That meant a mod? So I poked around and found out about the silver bullet, that seems to be pretty popular and gets good reviews. I've also seen the dse905 v2, which gets some good reviews, some bad.

The difference is the 905 is cheaper, and as I'm on a budget, I wanna know. Is it worth the extra money to get the silver bullet? If I got the 905 I would be getting that, 801 adapter, 801 attys and carts, and a passthrough. If I get the silver bullet, it would be with the 510 attys, 510 carts, 2x batteries, and the charger.

The difference in price is enough that it makes me want to know for certain if the silver bullet is just that much better.

Also, how long (about) is the battery life on each of these? Do I necessarily need a passthrough with either or does each (or one of them) last a solid day for battery life?

 

[CatVTTV]

I cannot answer this question fairly as I dont own a DSE905 but I am fairly sure it doesnt run on the same battery as the Silver Bullet which I do own and run at 3.7v

The SB runs on a 18650 battery which can last up to 3 days depending on your vaping style. So no pass through is needed. Currently my older batteries are being changed every 24 hours, which is still pretty good.

You can buy an adapter for the SB so you can use 801's.

It is in my opinion a good buy.

But that is just mine...

 

[DaMulta]

I think the Silver Bullet is worth the month. With the 18650 battery it will last a whole day, and or two days before you have to recharge. When I'm using the 18650 battery I just change it out in the morning, and never even think about running out of power.

 

[jiff]

Thanks for the reply. Good to know the more expensive option doesn't need anything extra since it lasts a long time anyway.

Anyone else have opinions between these two? If you have either share how you feel about what you have please!!

 

[highping]

The SB is going to be better than the 905, hence the higher price.

However, if you want something that costs a little less than the SB and performs on par with it (or better according to many), you should check out the Chuck. It's $80 shipped, built like a tank, and fully customizable. It also comes in two sizes. The smaller one will run all day on a battery, the regular sized chuck will run 3-4 days on a charge. It's worth taking a look at... THAG BUILT: A Wolf in Sheeps Clothing! . Of the hundreds that have been sold, I have not heard of a single person that was unhappy with their chuck.

Now, (to be fair to other mods), I also suggest you check out several mods and weigh your options to find what fits your needs best before making a purchase.

 

[DaMulta]

But the Chuck has a cheap switch. It hurts my fingers when I go too use it. I have a Chuck along with a Sliver Bullet. I use my Chuck maybe one time a month for a few hours tops.

Plus the Chuck is not pocket friendly at all. If you stick it in your pocket it will go off, but with a Silver Bullet you don't have too worry about it. Also you can drop the Chuck on the switch, and it will break due too the switch being a cheap Radio Shack switch.

There is a difference vapping on the Chuck/SB. The SB is more of a mellow vape, than a hard hitting vape. IMO the mellow is better 90% of the time.

 

[doots]

Id go with the sb and the 18650 batty for 3.7 vaping. will last a long time and is pocket friendly.

 

[jiff]

Ok thanks everyone. I think I'll end up ordering the SB in a week. Gotta fork out 176$ for everything I want to get started. Then per week I'll be spending half as much as I am now on "analogs".

Now just gotta talk to my fiancee so she isn't mad at me for spending that kinda money

 

[highping]

But the Chuck has a cheap switch. It hurts my fingers when I go too use it. I have a Chuck along with a Sliver Bullet. I use my Chuck maybe one time a month for a few hours tops.

Plus the Chuck is not pocket friendly at all. If you stick it in your pocket it will go off, but with a Silver Bullet you don't have too worry about it. Also you can drop the Chuck on the switch, and it will break due too the switch being a cheap Radio Shack switch.

There is a difference vapping on the Chuck/SB. The SB is more of a mellow vape, than a hard hitting vape. IMO the mellow is better 90% of the time.

Agreed Demulta, the switch is the (only) weak point on a chuck, but it fires 100% of the time. As far as pocket friendly... The SB is pretty fat, so it's going to be kinda bulky in the pocket. I never have trouble with pocket firing of my chucks.
I won't knock the SB, as it is a nice mod, but I will 'sell' the chuck every chance I get because of the performance it gives, and more importantly the customer service that comes with it. I would put the warranty conditions of the Chuck against the SB (or any other mod for that matter) any day. So the 'weaker' switch is kind of a moot point. If you do mange to break it, it's going to get fixed, no questions asked, and on top of that, the whole mod is going to get the full treatment while it's 'in the shop'. No one can beat Jeff on warranty coverage (IMO).
And I think the statement about the SB being more of a 'mellow vape', kinda confirms my earlier claim that the Chuck out performs the SB. (my stock 510 is a mellow vape )
Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a (yet another) Chuck vs SB thread. The main point I was trying to make to the OP was that there are many mods out there and they should look at a few and weigh all the options.

Edit: BTW, Demulta..."hurts my fingers"?..."mellow vape"?!?! This from the guy that I've seen vaping a soldering iron and running 2 18650's in series ?!?!
Are you goin' soft on us

 

[DaMulta]

The weak spot that makes it work

IDK how you have never had a pocket go off. I can't even stick it in my jacket pocket without it going off.

The SB is a little bigger(not by much fat wise), but without the problem of it going off. You can stick it in your back pocket, front pockets, jacket pockets without ever having too worry about it. Too me that was a big thing.

It is a more mellow vape, and you really can't tell with the 3.7. The amps with the 18650 battery can hold. However with 3v batteries on a 801 you get 6v on a Chuck(batteries non load at 7.4v), and on the SB with the same setup you will have 5v.

A lot of people say that 5v is the sweet spot with vapping. IDk this is why I do pull the Chuck out ever once in a blue moon. It's just that dang switch sucks so bad that I don't continue to use it.

I think the warranty is just as good with the SB/BB. You can send a email/skype anytime of the day/night and get an answer back really quick.

 

[highping]

Well I can't really speak to the warranty on the SB, and they may answer your questions, but I'm talking about the coverage of the product itself. If the switch does eventually go out on your SB, it's not going to be repaired by rob. Best case scenario is, you send it to him, then he sends it to the person/factory that actually made it. I don't have to worry about that with Jeff.
Also, if you leave your SB on top the car and it bounces down the freeway and gets all scuffed up, you think rob is going to do anything for ya? (I have my doubts). Jeff will...has.
Try opening your SB and fiddling with the wiring (I know you probably have, but I'm talking about Joe Average Vaper), if you screw up the switch is rob going to send you a new one? (again, doubts).

Bottom line for me (mods aside) is that it's two different 'companies' with two different business models. One is in it for the profit, and the other is in it for the craft. I know which one I want to support.

BTW: unscrew your atty a half turn on your chuck before you throw it in your pocket and you'll be fine.

 

[DaMulta]

I know for a fact Cddz had taken some in when needed for a re-polish. Also has even done other peoples mods not just his own.

No he will not send just you out the million click switch, and for one reason I think is that the vent is there if something went bad. It's not just a radio shack cheap switch that you just wire up.

I laugh at the remark for craft when Jeffs Chucks parts can be bought at Lowes/rat shack. It makes one wonder who is really making a killing money wise on them. I'm happy to give my money too Rob, and Chad for making a nice product that feels like it's worth the money when you hold them. Than feeling like you payed 50 dollars on top of your mod for a nice paint job.

The Chuck isn't even vented Jeff just says blow inside and it's vented lol yea right.... It's a ticking time bomb when batteries do decide to blow IMO.

 

[highping]

Hmm... I don't know where to begin in responding to that.

First... I can buy all the materials to build a house at HomeDepot, but it still takes a craftsman to turn them into a house. That point isn't really valid.

Second, I can't really claim to know exactly how much profit is flying around on either of these mods, but Jeff is taking the raw materials and building them himself, so any 'profit' he is making is really just paying for his time.
Rob is buying a mass produced product in bulk and just shipping it out. The SB sells for 100 bucks. If I had to guess, I would guess he pays 40-50 bucks each for them (probably closer to 30-40 if that) ** and before anybody jumps in to say I'm wrong, I said it was just a guess** So Rob is making 50-60 just to move them from one box to the other. Where as Jeff may be making the same 50-60 bucks, but it's for the hours that he puts into them.

So in Rob's case it's all profit, in Jeff's case it's basically being paid for his time. And not even being paid much for that. So with the SB you are giving money to a guy that is pretty much just a middle man (who makes you pre-order, so there is no risk on his shoulders). With the chuck you are paying a hard working american for his time.
That's how I see it anyway.
And on top of all that the SB is plain and boring, the Chuck is whatever I want it to be.

But like I said, we shouldn't turn this into another SB vs Chuck thread. The SB will never win in some ppl's mind and the Chuck will never win in other ppl's minds. They are very similar in quality and performance. That's why it all comes down to business model for me.

 

[DaMulta]

So instead of buying something that does this as a second job, because he likes it makes it a bad thing? Instead of buying it from someone who is running this along with his business? Main difference is that your paying a guy to make a unit for you that you "PRE ORDER", and then he makes it for you. Tube, Switch, Caps, Spring, Paint around maybe 20 dollars top without having other people in the loop. To the guy that is selling someone else mod(altsmoke) that takes going to a machine shop to be made, going to a guy to polish it, and or going to a guy to paint them, and then going to someone to put it together. If you think they are being turned out for 50 dollars I'm sure your wrong by a lot. I bet they wish they were making that much off every unit. It's not a Chinese repack job, and plus when is the last time you had to pre order a SB/BB? You can have one in a few days if you want one

 

[ohiomelody]

Hmm... I don't know where to begin in responding to that.

First... I can buy all the materials to build a house at HomeDepot, but it still takes a craftsman to turn them into a house. That point isn't really valid.

Second, I can't really claim to know exactly how much profit is flying around on either of these mods, but Jeff is taking the raw materials and building them himself, so any 'profit' he is making is really just paying for his time.
Rob is buying a mass produced product in bulk and just shipping it out. The SB sells for 100 bucks. If I had to guess, I would guess he pays 40-50 bucks each for them (probably closer to 30-40 if that) ** and before anybody jumps in to say I'm wrong, I said it was just a guess** So Rob is making 50-60 just to move them from one box to the other. Where as Jeff may be making the same 50-60 bucks, but it's for the hours that he puts into them.

So in Rob's case it's all profit, in Jeff's case it's basically being paid for his time. And not even being paid much for that. So with the SB you are giving money to a guy that is pretty much just a middle man (who makes you pre-order, so there is no risk on his shoulders). With the chuck you are paying a hard working american for his time.
That's how I see it anyway.
And on top of all that the SB is plain and boring, the Chuck is whatever I want it to be.

But like I said, we shouldn't turn this into another SB vs Chuck thread. The SB will never win in some ppl's mind and the Chuck will never win in other ppl's minds. They are very similar in quality and performance. That's why it all comes down to business model for me.

Highping,
For your information my husband manufactures the Silver Bullets and BB's. It is NOT mass produced. I personally inspect and wrap each and every SB that goes out of our home. If there is ever a problem with your unit it will be taken care of. This is a family business. Learn your facts before you start slinging trash talk. I don't post often, but felt the need as this got under my skin. Oh and btw, your profit number is waaay out of proportion.
Regards,
Melody