In the end the best juice in the world is the one that keeps you from smoking.
Well perhaps I wouldn't have considered it slamming if your words weren't "Nicoticket is premium eliquid, ITC is not". Especially when you gave this opinion based on your experience with unsteeped juice. When most people do reviews, they are not reviewing straight out of the mail or even a week in unless that company says their juice is good in a week.You are completely correct. I did steep it for about a week, which now from what you wrote, is not enough time. And to ITC's defense, I have vaped other chocolates and cannot vape them, either. I don't know if it's because I don't like chocolate vapes, or because of the reaction Dirty Dutchman caused.
And, you are also correct that I did not give it a "bath." I refuse to do this with all of my juices, Nicoticket, Ahlusion, or the stuff I get from a DIY guy. I don't believe in them and I feel it ruins the taste of the product in the long run.
You are incorrect about selling them. I did not sell them nor did I give them away. They went into the trash.
I also forgot to include the "peppery" taste I got from the juices. From what I've read, that is because of poor nicotine quality.
I don't feel as I am "slamming" ITC vapes. I am just giving an upfront, honest opinion about my experiences with them. I feel the truth be told because I don't want people to spend their money and be disappointed as I was. I am very, very happy that you enjoy them and happy for their followers which keep people off the smokes. That is the goal all around and I am grateful that ITC can do that for people.
Respectfully,
Dani
Well perhaps I wouldn't have considered it slamming if your words weren't "Nicoticket is premium eliquid, ITC is not". Especially when you gave this opinion based on your experience with unsteeped juice. When most people do reviews, they are not reviewing straight out of the mail or even a week in unless that company says their juice is good in a week.
As for a bath ruining the juice? I've certainly never heard of this with the exception of people boiling their liquid or throwing it in the microwave. If you live in a warm climate or even in the north during the summer, your juice is going to get a lot hotter for a lot longer then a 20 minute bath just during shipping. But even if you truly believe that despite even juice experts heating their juice for steeping, you don't actually have to heat it. It just takes longer. There really wouldn't have been anything to lose from putting the juice in a cupboard for a month and trying it then instead of just throwing it away and shooting down somebody's recommendation.
As for the peppery taste? I really don't taste that although I order in low nic for sub-ohming and even Nicoticket claims their juice is peppery at high levels and I've read about a peppery taste in Nicoticket reviews as well.
Not trying to start a big debate here. I just see a lot of bias against my original post and I want to address that. Because had I seen your comments about ITC before actually trying it for myself, "Truth Be Told", I would have probably skipped them and missed out big based on an opinion of unsteeped juice. I just hope others don't miss out.
Here is from Nicotickets site. Does this make their juice no longer "Premium" and instead using a cheap nic base like ITC apparently?
http://www.nicoticket.com/what-strength-of-eliquid-should-i-buy/
NOTICE:.Unflavored nicotine has a slight peppery taste that increases significantly at the higher levels of concentration. We recommend using the MINIMUM level that provides satisfaction for you.. If there is any question about which level might be right for you, contact us for a free consultation and we will do our best to customize a solution that provides the maximum amount of satisfaction and enjoyment.
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Oberon, would you mind recommending an ITC juice for me to try? Tobacco's if possible, dessert if not. I also DIY from NET's I extract from whole leaf with cold maceration. I would be very interested in finding something I can enjoy when I don't have enough time to mix.
I know Oberon hasn't tried the ITC tobacco flavors yet, so I'll interject an opinion here...hope you don't mind! They have three that are a bit less ordinary:
Orangutan - A Turkish-type banana-nut tobacco, this is one of my favorite juices, both for flavor and as an analog craving-killer. It needs a bit longer steeping (3-4 weeks recommended) before the tobacco fully blooms.
Dirty Dutchman - This is a chocolate cigar RY4, and it's one of their best sellers. The chocolate dominates early on, but the stout cigar punches through after 2-3 weeks steep time. Over a longer period, it all blends together with vanilla and caramel backgrounds to a pretty fine dessert tobacco.
Tropical Leaves - A piña colada flavored Turkish-type tobacco, with the tobacco emerging more after proper steeping. I'm not a fan of pineapple flavor (which dominates at first), but I found myself reaching for this in the morning once it settled down.
They also offer a Turkish Blend, with variants Silver RY4 (tobacco-heavy) and Gold RY4 (more sweet added)...these are probably a bit too ordinary given your experience in the NET lane.
You've made me curious, Moonbogg. Heaven's Bounty wasn't a re-order for me, but after steeping 2 weeks from delivery date I remember it was sweet and creamy with a little spicy and tropical taste. I'm not a tropical guy much, but it was mellow.
I've still got about 6-7 mL left from my 50/50 18mg tryout bottle. It's 14 weeks old and the color of buckwheat honey. I think I'll load some up soon.
To respond to the original OP's question who was seeking something other than Nicoticket, I highly recommend Steam Juice http://www.steamjuice.us/
For tobacco flavors, I second NiteLite Vapor's Bounty Hunter. and also recommend their NLV Gold. Open Source Vapor's Trifecta.