If Nicoticket is your #1, whats #2?
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Virus and Wakonda are my ADVs (I seldom vape anything else), and I can usually go around a week or so on a coil/wick in my REO before I start getting "off" flavors. I usually just replace the whole coil rather than dry burn/re-wick - I always have coils on hand and it takes me less time to rebuild the RM2 than it does to pull the wick, dry burn the coil to my satisfaction and re-wick it. I don't use Protanks, but I can't see how 2.5 ml would crud your coil up that badly. NETs are harder on coils than some other juices, but I've never ruined a coil that quickly with any juice.
Virus is a doppelganger - it changes flavor daily, sometimes even more often than that. As it steeps/ages, you'll get a lot of different flavors out of it. People have tasted peanuts, chocolate, coffee, maple, cinnamon, toffee, caramel, etc. Most Virus aficionados (myself included) advise to hit it fresh and ride it because the changes are so interesting and enjoyable. If you're really not fond of the taste right now, give it a good shake and set it aside for a week before giving it another try. If that doesn't do it, give it another week and see what it's like. I can just about guarantee you that you'll get a different flavor from it every time. There are some who say that Virus hits its prime after about 6-8 weeks, but I hit it fresh from the mailbox until it's gone and enjoy it the whole way.
Definitely going to give it more of a try, I was just very thrown off by the strong peanut flavor. Probably dumb on my part considering that's one of the flavor notes but as I said it was almost savory and very strong.
The peanut flavor has already mellowed a good bit and it hasn't been all that long since I posted. I'm vaping it right now and more the maple is coming through a lot more which is something I can get behind that for sure. Very nice. Thanks for the posts, you two.
@Darryl Licht - I'll definitely update my thoughts on this as I give the juices time to steep and develop. Look forward to your thoughts as well.
Oh my goodness, never consider yourself dumb. You are just looking for a good vape.
I hope Nicoticket delivers that for you.Oh my goodness, never consider yourself dumb. You are just looking for a good vape.
Thanks
The Virus is definitely doing it for me right now. I can tell that Wakonda will be very nice after some steeping and I already like CLS fresh so it'll be interesting to try again after steeping.
Yes, please do keep us all updated. I will do the same in a week or two. I know plenty of folks rave about NT juice, but OOB I wasn't impressed. Not sure what it is; lower VG, or my ordering the wrong nic content. I will say that my sample pack from VapeWild has all tasted great OOB, Ive sampled 4 of the 8 flavs they sent, and they allow you to choose your preferred VG/PG and add 50% flav boost (which I did on all). All my NT and VW are steeping for the remainder of the week, if I can stay away from those flavs!
To respond to the original OP's question who was seeking something other than Nicoticket, I highly recommend Steam Juice http://www.steamjuice.us/
For tobacco flavors, I second NiteLite Vapor's Bounty Hunter. and also recommend their NLV Gold. Open Source Vapor's Trifecta.
Are there any particular flavors from Steamjuice you would recommend?
(inquiring minds want to know...)
It's certainly priced better then those but still quite a bit rich for my blood considering I have 240ml coming in the mail for $36 from ITC. While I would like to try Nicoticket, it would take a pretty good sale.
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I'll never chastise a fellow vapor on a budget.
No matter what decide to go with hopefully it will be better than smoking.
As for me it comes down to this.
With Nicoticket I know what I'm vaping, I know for a fact that Nicoticket uses the purest most high quality U.S. sourced ingredients available.
I know the nicotine in my liquids are in fact 99.7% pure
I know that if I have any, questions, comments or concerns about anything to do with Nicoticket, I can ask the man himself "Clark" Kent Brooks right here on ECF in open forum, he will respond, and will whatever it takes to make sure I'm 100% satisfied.
If you call you are going to get a live person that WANTS to help you.
I say again for the piece of mind knowing for sure I'm getting the highest quality products and customer service possible, $.53 per ml is a h3ll of a bargain.
How many other juice manufacturers can you say that about?
Do you know the name of the owners?
Do you know where they hang out, or how you can talk to them personally?
Can you truly trust them as though they were family?
Do you really know what's in what you are vaping?
I do!
Disclaimer: This is my opinion, and my opinion only. Your mileage may vary. They have several I have not yet tried, so these are based upon the ones I have tried. All Steam Juices I have tried need steep time with exceptions noted below.
Exeptional: Brittany's American Pie (Realistic Apple Pie with a bit of extra cinnamon), Buttery Nipple. Enjoyed both FOOB, gets even better with age
Very good: Blue Velvet, Peaches N' Cream (both need 4-6 weeks steep)
Better than average good: Breakfast of Champions (hint of bakery cinnamon), Golden Road (tobacco), Orion (fruit vape that is not over potent) after 3 weeks steep
Good: Toasted RY4 (slightly bitter until 4 weeks steep)
Others: Cheesecake better than most vendors Cheesecake after 2 months' steep. Tastes much better with a fruit added and same steep time. It is awful FOOB but did come around.
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What I know is, I belong to the ITC Facebook group and can talk to the owner Luke on both the group as well as their page. Their ECF thread has also went over 4000 posts with nothing but great reception not to mention that unlike other budget companies, their website reviews are primarily 5 star reviews.
And here is the statement on their site
ITCVapes is an e-juice company that is both run and owned by vapers. .Our main team consists of Luke, Jakob,.Mal, Nate, Sharon & Brian. .
After selling our juice line at premium prices for almost a year, we decided to change things up. .We wanted to make our blends available to everyone in the vaping.community...not just those who could afford it. .Our plan, offer for the first time ever a line of gourmet blends at an affordable price. .Actually affordable is an understatement, we took things to an all time low. .
All of our blends are gourmet mixes (complex). .Some consider a juice to be complex if it is a blend of two or more different flavors. .When we say our juices are complex we mean made from scratch compared to boxed mix. Our blends consist of a large number of flavors, usually 8-10, used in small percentages to create the recipe we are looking for.
All of our blends are created with the highest quality ingredients. .Our nicotine, which can also be found in several very high end juice lines, is some of the cleanest and clearest nicotine available. .We use 100% USP Kosher non-GMO Vegetable Glycerin and 100% USP Kosher Propylene Glycol. .All of our flavoring comes from companies that have stated that their product is diacetyl free.
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Willie, really. Nicoticket is premium e-juice. ITC simply is not. I foolishly spent around $50 on an assortment of their juices when I was new to vaping because of that thread. It was horrible. The dirty Dutchman in particular made me physically ill. I refused to even donate their juice because it was so bad. In the garbage it went.
Ahlusion is a good runner up for me. I've tried several and all have been good, but not good as in Nicoticket good. If ACB goes away they have a really good tobacco vape that I would consider doing an ADV for me.
May I ask how long you steeped it for? Because I think I remember you posting before that you were vaping it rather fresh and was selling it because you didn't believe in giving your "Precious" juice a warm bath. I'm asking because juices like Dirty Dutchman aren't even ready for about four weeks. Desserts and Tobaccos take the longest and Dirty Dutchman is both.
So if you didn't follow the recommended instructions when steeping fresh juices using raw ingredients from scratch, it's going to be exactly how you describe.
The process is a bit time consuming because the ingredients are so raw and fresh which starts with a warm bath, a good shake, a four hour breathe time and then more shakes every few days and a squeeze to replace the oxygen.
So if you didn't do any of this, it's really not good to slander another juice company because you didn't give it a chance, being new to vaping and became loyal to another juice company.
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I didn't like any of the 3 flavs OOB from NT, but I've put them in the "dungeon" for a few weeks to steep. Actually, the flav was there, but also a harsh taste (might be too much nic) I'll give them another try at 1 week then back to the "dungeon", I'll repeat this process each week to test if they get any better.
I don't think anything will change as I believe I have a sensitivity to PG and they (NT) doesn't offer a max VG. When I vaped the flavs from NT, I got very VERY bad numb tongue, and none of my high VG juices do that to me. However, I also mistakenly ordered the wrong (my old nic level) and forgot that it is suggested to cut nic in half when sub ohming. <--MY BAD!
But I'm still going to give the 3 flavs I ordered a chance.
...And if still not agreeable to me, I'll try one more order of CLS at the correct nic level!
I don't think anything will change as I believe I have a sensitivity to PG and they (NT) doesn't offer a max VG. When I vaped the flavs from NT, I got very VERY bad numb tongue, and none of my high VG juices do that to me. However, I also mistakenly ordered the wrong (my old nic level) and forgot that it is suggested to cut nic in half when sub ohming. <--MY BAD!
But I'm still going to give the 3 flavs I ordered a chance.
...And if still not agreeable to me, I'll try one more order of CLS at the correct nic level!
You are completely correct. I did steep it for about a week, which now from what you wrote, is not enough time. And to ITC's defense, I have vaped other chocolates and cannot vape them, either. I don't know if it's because I don't like chocolate vapes, or because of the reaction Dirty Dutchman caused.
And, you are also correct that I did not give it a "bath." I refuse to do this with all of my juices, Nicoticket, Ahlusion, or the stuff I get from a DIY guy. I don't believe in them and I feel it ruins the taste of the product in the long run.
You are incorrect about selling them. I did not sell them nor did I give them away. They went into the trash.
I also forgot to include the "peppery" taste I got from the juices. From what I've read, that is because of poor nicotine quality.
I don't feel as I am "slamming" ITC vapes. I am just giving an upfront, honest opinion about my experiences with them. I feel the truth be told because I don't want people to spend their money and be disappointed as I was. I am very, very happy that you enjoy them and happy for their followers which keep people off the smokes. That is the goal all around and I am grateful that ITC can do that for people.
Respectfully,
Dani
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