If "smokeless" chewing tobacco causes cancer, then doesn't "smokeless" e-cigs?

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I have been using ecigs since 4/1/2013. No more analogs for me. I really enjoy my ecig. However, the thought recently occurred to me...........if smokeless tobacco causes mouth, throat, and other cancers, then wouldn't ecigs, too? I have been doing tons of research but can't find any hard facts. All I know is that people that chew tobacco don't cough or wheeze like cigarette smokers, but they end up getting cancer nonetheless. I no longer cough or wheeze now that I vape, but in the end will I end up getting cancer from this Ecig?
 

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there is a difference between snus and American chewing tobacco. The preparation of the tobacco is different i believe which results in less carcinogen being released in snus.

either way, the only element of tobacco present in e liquids is the nicotine which is the element that makes it addictive. nicotine is not a cancer causing agent.
 

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I think Swedish type snus is not a tobacco product just like e liquid is not a tobacco product. Swedish snus has nicotine but no tobacco. American chewing tobacco is fermented tobacco.I chew Triump Herbal Chew- mint leaves and such Triump is 1 0f 2 brands of herbal chew among the many out there that have a nicotine and nicotine step down option. The other being Ellicit herbal chew . Its the same formulation of nicotine used in nicotine gum
 

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All those horror films in high school gym class about people who chewed, who have missing cheeks, jaws, throat cancer and electronic voice boxes were lies?

For the most part, that would be a YES. The Swedish snus is a tobacco product and has been studied for the entire population of Sweden, and the smokers / snus users contained therein. The studies show less tha a 1% increase in cancer, or any other medical problems, and it has been a decades long study.

The Swedish product is different for what is produced by the American tobacco companies, same as the cigarettes produced by American tobacco companies with numerous additives and chemicals.
 

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All those horror films in high school gym class about people who chewed, who have missing cheeks, jaws, throat cancer and electronic voice boxes were lies?
those same people had little or no dental care either. they were the poorest of the poor. typically of Appilation or southern decent. statisticly the use of American style tobacco chew may cause a slightly elevated rate of getting cancer than that of non risk groups. due to extreme poverty there were sub groups of users that had a higher elevated risk. lack of dental care,spiking the chew with other substances,and home brews being mitigating factors they forget to mention.
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What was the cause of Tony Gwynn's death?

There are way too many people out there who have made the same 'leap' of logic, or assumption about the cause of Gwynn's cancer.

Carl Phillips addresses this very question.

Supposed THR supporter demonstrates he still thinks like an ANTZ | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

And as to the scare-films, a whole lot of propaganda style content there than true facts. Cherry-pickin and selective story-telling

Any and all smokeless tobacco products fall down into the <5% the harm risk of smoking, and real snus & ecigs being 1% or less.

Brad Rodu, Michael Siegel and Carl Phillips writings over the past 3 years for numerous references.
 
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Chewing tobacco is still tobacco, but there is no tobacco in eliquid, only nicotine. Nicotine causes addiction, but it cannot cause cancer

Apart from the nicotine found in both tobacco and e-liquid (and also in patches, gum and sprays, none of which cause cancer either), tobacco and eliquid couldn't be more different.
 
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For the most part, that would be a YES. The Swedish snus is a tobacco product and has been studied for the entire population of Sweden, and the smokers / snus users contained therein. The studies show less tha a 1% increase in cancer, or any other medical problems, and it has been a decades long study.

The Swedish product is different for what is produced by the American tobacco companies, same as the cigarettes produced by American tobacco companies with numerous additives and chemicals.

So in other words, unless he uses Swedish snus, that no, those films are most likely factual and not propaganda.
 

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So in other words, unless he uses Swedish snus, that no, those films are most likely factual and not propaganda.

There are way too many people out there who have made the same 'leap' of logic, or assumption about the cause of Gwynn's cancer.

Carl Phillips addresses this very question.

Supposed THR supporter demonstrates he still thinks like an ANTZ | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

And as to the scare-films, a whole lot of propaganda style content there than true facts. Cherry-pickin and selective story-telling

Any and all smokeless tobacco products fall down into the <5% the harm risk of smoking, and real snus & ecigs being 1% or less.

Brad Rodu, Michael Siegel and Carl Phillips writings over the past 3 years for numerous references.

Those films are not factual and mostly "other stuff" madness type propaganda.

The Swedish snus has been proven in studies to be effective and less harmful than others. The smokeless tobacco has been shown in studies to be far, far less harmful than smoking. The least harmful thing to do is absolutely nothing, but that also holds true not only for smoking, but food, drink, driving a car, flying in an airplane, crossing the street....

Read through at least some of the studies I linked to earlier in this thread. Reading is fundamental...:)
 
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