If the FDA bans ecigs will we still be able to get them somehow? And what about Liquid? Will that be harder to get? We need a plan
If the FDA banns ecigs.....
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I am very concerned about this too. I would hate to have to go back to tobacco. I don't really know what to do unless make a big deal if they do ban it. My Dr told me that when I got an ecig to bring it and show him. He thought it was great and I vaped right in his office. Weve been talking about the fact that I should not be smoking for more than year. The media attention so far is not really helpful if a ban goes into effect
I also wondered about it and decided to stock up as best I could. I got a mod that uses a regular battery so I don't have to depend on the ones from China and I got a bunch of atomizers and juice. I think the atomizers are the part that we can't duplicate, so thought this was the way to go.
Could you tell me more about this? What does it work with? By "regular battery", do you mean...like...an energizer? Where do you get this mod? How do you like it?
There are several battery mods on this site. I've made a few to try out also. Radio Shack is hard to beat - especially for 901s.
1 - 4xAA box
1 - N type coax connector
1 - momentary switch
All total around 5 bucks.
A little wire twisting and battery case modding later... and you have a battery case using 3 out of it's 4 places for batteries, and 1 space for wires and switch / connector housings.
Your 901 atomizer or cartomizer will screw right onto the N type connector no mod needed, and you can use standard rechargable or name brand AA batteries in there! No problemo!
Take care,
- Hap
1 - 4xAA box
1 - N type coax connector
1 - momentary switch
All total around 5 bucks.
A little wire twisting and battery case modding later... and you have a battery case using 3 out of it's 4 places for batteries, and 1 space for wires and switch / connector housings.
Your 901 atomizer or cartomizer will screw right onto the N type connector no mod needed, and you can use standard rechargable or name brand AA batteries in there! No problemo!
Take care,
- Hap
As far as i know, all the mods (like the screwdriver, v1, prodigy, etc.) use batteries that you can buy at places like radio shack. They're not standard AA's but they are widely available.
Edit: Ah, i see haplo already answered the question
...is to go ahead and buy as much as you can now.
Semantic nitpick: the FDA would not be "banning" eCigs; they have never been approved
But yeah. Just buy what you can afford while you still can. If this case is decided in favor of the Defendant, the FDA, then interstate commerce in these items will be a Federal Criminal offense.
-K
...is to go ahead and buy as much as you can now.
Semantic nitpick: the FDA would not be "banning" eCigs; they have never been approved
But yeah. Just buy what you can afford while you still can. If this case is decided in favor of the Defendant, the FDA, then interstate commerce in these items will be a Federal Criminal offense.
-K
Not to be a semantic nitpicker or anything
but isn't making it a "criminal offense" to import something equivalent to banning?
Not to be a semantic nitpicker or anything
No worries, I've had nearly everything I've said today turned into something that I had not set out to say, or turned on a dime into something associative. Most people knew what you meant and understand the relative term.
Take care,
- Hap
if they ban them the only thing they'll accomplish is to create another black market in this country. in my opinion
I think it would be hard to ban a battery, sold just as a battery.
As far as the Atomizers, Im sure they could be sold as simple paper weights
I would be surprised if you couldnt order parts seperately overseas and get them, the main hullabaloo that I got from the FDA stuff, was marketing the completed item as anything usable by a human for inhaling, etc.
Heres to hoping the individual parts will be ok, just not the product itself, at the least.
As far as the Atomizers, Im sure they could be sold as simple paper weights
I would be surprised if you couldnt order parts seperately overseas and get them, the main hullabaloo that I got from the FDA stuff, was marketing the completed item as anything usable by a human for inhaling, etc.
Heres to hoping the individual parts will be ok, just not the product itself, at the least.
Not to be a semantic nitpicker or anything
It would not be *made into* an offense. It would be enforced. No new law is being made here. If people were much more careful will how they worded things in the first place, this mess would not BE a mess.
If people wish to be more...accurate...they could learn a little Latin...it would be a de facto "ban" because you couldn't get any, but NOT a legal ban. No one is saying "eCigs cannot be made or sold in America". That would be a legal ban.
See?
What is being stated is as soon as they go thru the proper process and approved for the intended use, then there you go.
This usually triggers the "PharmaTobaccoFDA Evil Cartel" talk, but that isn't *fact* until someone at least attempts the legal process.
If certain...entities stuck to what is defined in law as fact (you know, the semantic details) we'd all be talking about some whole other thing entirely now
-K
If people wish to be more...accurate...they could learn a little Latin...it would be a de facto "ban" because you couldn't get any, but NOT a legal ban. No one is saying "eCigs cannot be made or sold in America". That would be a legal ban.
See?
-K
So, to clarify, they would be blocked on importation, but can still be legally made and sold in america (except, of course, in states that pass legislation making that illegal)?
Am i correct on this?
yep, the batteries are just batteries, i suppose the manual (push button) ones would be the most applicable to being sold as a simple powering device... we need more things that plug-in to the existing manual batteries so they can be sold in combo, there are hundreds of things that can be powered by the existing batteries.
I tried posting this as a new topic, but I guess I'm too new a member to start a new thread (?)
Anyhow...in the event of a ban...
What would be the likelihood of keeping PVs legal if they were: non-nicotine; completely tobacco-free; submitted (by manufacturer/retailer) in each individual case to the FDA for approval and found "safe"?
In other words, if I invented a device that looked like a pencil (or carrot, or frankfurter) that vaporized PG/VG and natural flavoring, and was found to contain absolutely nothing harmful, would/could that possibly be "ok"?
Anyhow...in the event of a ban...
What would be the likelihood of keeping PVs legal if they were: non-nicotine; completely tobacco-free; submitted (by manufacturer/retailer) in each individual case to the FDA for approval and found "safe"?
In other words, if I invented a device that looked like a pencil (or carrot, or frankfurter) that vaporized PG/VG and natural flavoring, and was found to contain absolutely nothing harmful, would/could that possibly be "ok"?
I think the easiest way around this is to repackage the device, sold with no nicotine or PG/VG, it could be approved as a personal/travel "humidifier".
The best place for this type of conversation is probably in the underground section of this message board.
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There's enough mod ideas and juice making instructions on this sight that we'll never have to stop vaping. And don't forget those vaporizers that you can buy online all day. Just grind up tobacco and put it in one of those if it comes down to it. Bottom line, I'm done with cigarettes. Peace!
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