If today vaping is...

[anthonyiro]

i love how most people ignored the second question....lol smh

 

[AndriaD]

i love how most people ignored the second question....lol smh

Because we already know that vaping is safer than smoking, so that's a complete non-starter.

Andria

 

[anthonyiro]

Because we already know that vaping is safer than smoking, so that's a complete non-starter.

Andria

that is not a guarantee..........you dont know if all the chemicals in these different flavorings are any good for your lungs...not too mention you have people blowing enormous clouds and using 20 ml a day..... technically an ego set up is probably like 10 times safer since you are vaping much less. we already had this whole da ap thing who knows what else is out there? if that popcorn factory thing never happened we would have never knew about the da ap harm

 

[Bad Ninja]

These scenarios won't happen to me.
I have too many mechs and I have juice supplies to last a decade.

Push/shove, I could make a mod and atomizer from Home Depot parts in an hour. It's flashlight electronics.

No one will ever be able to put the vape genie back in the bottle.

 

[DC2]

Scenario A:
Vaping is more expensive and/or as expensive as cigarettes

Would u
A. Stick with vaping
B. Go back to smoking
C. Quit both for good

I would stick with vaping (A) as no amount of money would make me go back to smoking.
I've seen too many health improvements to even consider such a thing.

Scenario B:
Scientific studies show that vaping is harmful to your health and possibly higher chance for cancer and other respiratory diseases

Would u
A. Stick with vaping
B. Go back to smoking
C. Quit both for good

I would just vape unflavored (A) if I had to.
The chances of a health risk from vaping unflavored have to be as close to zero as you can get.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

that is not a guarantee..........you dont know if all the chemicals in these different flavorings are any good for your lungs...not too mention you have people blowing enormous clouds and using 20 ml a day..... technically an ego set up is probably like 10 times safer since you are vaping much less. we already had this whole da ap thing who knows what else is out there? if that popcorn factory thing never happened we would have never knew about the da ap harm

 

[K_Tech]

Scenario A - I'd keep vaping. I have enough nicotine in the freezer to last me several years, and enough atomizers, mechs, and mods to (hopefully) last at least that long.

All I'd need would be batteries, wick, wire, PG/VG, and flavorings.

Scenario B - I'd probably keep working my way to zero nic, and quit at some point. I smoked for 30 years, a few more years vaping can't make things much worse.

 

[DC2]

G. With a little computer savy track down all these folks with lifetime vape supplies.....

My dog and my Mossberg shotgun would stand in your way.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

My dog and my Mossberg shotgun would stand in your way.

See previous post.

I've been waltzing in and out of Afghanistan all week.

 

[tj99959]

G. With a little computer savy track down all these folks with lifetime vape supplies.....

Bring it on!

 

[DC2]

Bring it on!

How is a horse going to protect you?


By the way, is that you, or did you steal this picture?
Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Bring it on!

Plan B. They don't give you bacon wrapped filets? Let Uncle Reign fix that, it's good isn't it.

Then the dog wouldn't let you in.

 

[AndriaD]

that is not a guarantee..........you dont know if all the chemicals in these different flavorings are any good for your lungs...not too mention you have people blowing enormous clouds and using 20 ml a day..... technically an ego set up is probably like 10 times safer since you are vaping much less. we already had this whole da ap thing who knows what else is out there? if that popcorn factory thing never happened we would have never knew about the da ap harm

Well I'm certainly not using 20ml a day, nor blowing enormous clouds either -- I vape to refrain from smoking, not create weather, and how cool or otherwise I may be, I really don't give a single damn. I also do not vape diketones.

Vaping may entail some small risk, as I'm asthmatic, but it is a long, long, long way from the risk entailed in the 4,000 toxic chemicals in cigarette smoke. No question about that whatsoever. Vaping is NOT harm removal, it is HARM REDUCTION. Therefore, yes, it is safer than smoking.

Andria

 

[tj99959]

How is a horse going to protect you?


By the way, is that you, or did you steal this picture?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Son in law & his sister, and "Walter" of course.

I'm an old fart ... remember.

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

that is not a guarantee..........you dont know if all the chemicals in these different flavorings are any good for your lungs...not too mention you have people blowing enormous clouds and using 20 ml a day..... technically an ego set up is probably like 10 times safer since you are vaping much less. we already had this whole da ap thing who knows what else is out there? if that popcorn factory thing never happened we would have never knew about the da ap harm

I've been vaping for 4 years now. My lungs at my last doctor's appointment were clear. My doctor was amazed and stated my lungs looked as though I never smoked. My smoking habit was over 20 years at over 2 packs a day. With smoking, I couldn't breathe well at all. I always had trouble climbing stairs. Now I can run, climb stairs and a lot of other activities that I couldn't do when smoking.

I will take vaping over smoking any day! Just a little research and anybody knows cigarettes contain a few thousand bad chemicals, toxins, many are known to cause harm. With vaping we have a few chemicals and even if a couple are bad there's no way it can be even a fraction of a percent as bad as cigarettes. Common sense tells us lighting the end of a cigarette is a lot of the issue with smoking. It produces tar which makes it far worse. You don't get tar with vaping.

I have a freezer dedicated to nicotine. I have several gallons broken down into smaller glass bottles. So, I can supply me and my family until we all die.

As someone else stated, vaping is harm reduction. There's a risk with anything we do. The air we breathe in has toxins, so even the act of breathing has risks.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

"You can get killed walking your doggie."

 

[Jman8]

that is not a guarantee..........you dont know if all the chemicals in these different flavorings are any good for your lungs...not too mention you have people blowing enormous clouds and using 20 ml a day..... technically an ego set up is probably like 10 times safer since you are vaping much less. we already had this whole da ap thing who knows what else is out there? if that popcorn factory thing never happened we would have never knew about the da ap harm

We do have a guarantee that if you do absolutely nothing harmful to your body, you will pass away from this planet. Thus far in human history, there has not been an exception to this rule. Therefore, leading a perfectly health life on earth, will guarantee that you will die.

All the rest is stuff that we have some indication on how things could go, and lots of proganda / deception for those who frame all this stuff through fear and competing interests.

If you think vaping and smoking are on par with each other, and/or that all the data we have on smoking harms are entirely accurate, then really not much to discuss. You've been deceived and you are plausibly going to be arguing from position of ignorance.

 

[Pearl B]

Keep vaping and diy as much as possible. It's also why I'm getting a stockpile of rdas and devices

 

[Ryedan]

Unflavored nic, or IDY juice and a deep well RDA or decent RTA will NEVER be anywhere in the cost range of even the cheapest cigarettes.

I agree, except for the nic. That could get really expensive and/or hard to get.

 

[Ryedan]

Scenario A:
Vaping is more expensive and/or as expensive as cigarettes

Would u
A. Stick with vaping
B. Go back to smoking
C. Quit both for good

I make my juices, use rebuildables and don't vape much nic. If that became as expensive as smoking I would either cut back on vaping or quit.

Scenario B:
Scientific studies show that vaping is harmful to your health and possibly higher chance for cancer and other respiratory diseases

Would u
A. Stick with vaping
B. Go back to smoking
C. Quit both for good

I would either cut back on vaping or quit, depending on how much risk was discovered.

I'm not going back to smoking no matter what happens.