If you just started - Let Me Save You Time and Money

[irefine]

Let me start by saying that I KNOW EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, so don't flame me. What I am doing here is offering to the new e-cig smoker what took me many hours of research and over $1000 to figure out. Although some may argue subtleties most on this forum will not totally disagree with my conclusions. I am sure that there are other similar posts out there but the day I started there wasn't so I thought I will put it out there as an offering for those who just arrived this Friday night and are overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of the info on ECF.

The Best All Around Battery You Must Buy - JOYE EGO
The Best Atomizer You Must Buy - Cisco LR 306

Now the even more controversial, dripping vs cart vs carto and juice.

I have tried all three styles and without hesitation will say that once you get the hang of dripping (a couple of days practice) it will be your favorite method.

juice - I have tried virtually all the major brands mentioned on this board in many flavors. Some are good, some are ok, and some are just disgusting. Everyone's taste is different, but if I had to recommend one juice that I can't imagine anyone thinking was a waste of money it would be Tasty Vapor Waffle.

So if you are new and want to get straight to a solid choice buy an ego battery, a Cisco LR 306 with drip tip, and a bottle of TV Waffle and you won't go wrong.

By the way, if you think you want an e-cig that looks like an anolog and tobacco flavored juice, save your money. We all think that is what we want at first but we quickly realize that if we are no longer smokers why should we try to look like one, and tobacco really tastes like .

I hope this helps you on your journey!

 

[StarsAndBars]

Well done Sir, well done. Except for the waffle juice. Taste is subjective, but with the choice of device, you were spot on.

 

[Firefly13]

I suggest the opposite, i suggest buying a disposable to see if you like how vaping is, then if you want the best experience you buy a real mod that isn't disposable after x amount of charges like an eGo (not to mention the ego doesn't even deliver 3.7v under load), also i've found a lot of people don't want to mess with atomizers and keep constantly topping them off or dripping or dealing with leaking and juice bottles, cartomizers are fiddle-free. But like you said it's all personal preference

There are now mods like the GGTB which are 73 dollars and totally mechanical, no electronics to fail, and will deliver a proper 3.7v. There are also a lot of other mods in the same price range.

 

[irefine]

My goal with this post is to help the first time vaper start with a solid choice. As we all know, over time we accumulate more than one device to accomodate various circumstances (home, car, work, etc), but can anyone argue that an ego battery with a Cisco LR 306 will give a new user a true representation of quality vaping?

 

[Firefly13]

My goal with this post is to help the first time vaper start with a solid choice. As we all know, over time we accumulate more than one device to accomodate various circumstances (home, car, work, etc), but can anyone argue that an ego battery with a Cisco LR 306 will give a new user a true representation of quality vaping?

If you want to risk killing your eGo battery because it can't deliver the amperage the atomizer wants (and if you like atomizers) then yes it is quite a good experience but it's not good for the batteries. But i guess when a Riva kit only costs 30 bux these days from Liberty Flights it's not really a big loss killing the batteries is it.

 

[KissMint]

I agree with OP. Maybe add cartomizers to your shopping list for driving/out and about. Not many would jump to a mod for their first ecig.

Juice is a personal preference, just have to test until you find something you like.

Spare batteries are like $20 each maybe less and will last quite a while. To me, that's 3 packs of analogs for 2 1/2 days. It's not a big deal considering how expensive smokes are now.

 

[Krisb]

irefire. Only question i have is have u ever tried a mod? If not, the post is incomplete. Only fair and accurate "which one is best" threads are done by those have tried the spectrum of PV's. For those that have worked their way up to an ego and then stopped, how can you judge that as the best when there is so much more out there?

As far as jumping to an expensive mod as their first, I would not suggest that. I would try something cheaper, of course ($25 box mod?). But, I would not waste my money on a kit!

 

[irefine]

I am not disagreeing with you that a big battery mod is better in many ways. I am making a recommendation for a particular audience here.

For those of you that are in this audience (new e-cig users that aren't ready to spend the money and time researching mods and batteries), there is no evidence that a LR attomizer will kill your ego battery. Many on this forum including myself use this combination regularly without any problems.

Just as reminder, I posted this thread for those out there that want to get the highest quality all around vaping experience for thier first $50 to $75. The EGO LR 306 combo will beat out the typical "first e-cig" (blu, greensmoke, 501, 801, etc.) EVERYTIME!

 

[Krisb]

I agree, like I said, that I would never suggest an expensive mod to anyone as their first vaping experience. However, you can buy a cheap mod, 3.7v for $25...making it cheaper than an ego and the batteries are a no brainer, a AA protected (and they last sooo much longer than any ego-type battery). Now, once you get into all the juice fed, vv...mods, there is a definite learning curve!

 

[Sainted_S]

I think a more effective post for a newbie is just to say, Welcome, please, please ask any and all questions you have about buying a ecig. I read and read tons of posts on ECF before I went with my first purchase of a Joye 510 Mega. It's a good PV, but it didn't fit my needs. A newbie needs to here the reasons why a particular recommendation is relevant to them. I also believe an eGo/Riva is ideal for a newbie, however, some just aren't comfortable going straight from analogs to the bigger batteries. I remember before I made my purchase how nervous I was spending money on something that I was unsure about using as an alternative to smoking. Even though, logically, I told myself, ""This is less that I'm spending on analogs in a month," I was terrified of wasting that money on something that wouldn't work. Newbies need to have their needs met and the best thing we can do is to answer them in the best way we can from our experiences, by answering questions they post. I wish I would have posted questions.

 

[irefine]

Krisb... yes, I have an Omega,Thermo, and Precise. And, sure if I knew then what I know now I would have dropped the $200 on the P-18 on day one, but nobody could have convinced me on that day to spend that much. But I wish I would have seen a post on the first couple of pages that day that just said "buy an ego kit for $55 and a Cisco 306 for $10" and you can't go wrong. That's what I am trying to do here.

 

[NCC]

For all the critics to the OP, I take note that this thread is in the New Member's Forum. IMO, Post #1 seemed to offer some solid advice. Most newcomers aren't going to be comfortable jumping into the world of mods right off the bat, and the eGo-style offers much better charge time than other entry level units. I don't feel it must be Joye though.

I haven't received my Cisco LR 306 atomizers yet, but the reviews are great ...

Taste is the most subjective element of all here. But, I haven't run into many juices which someone else was wild about & that totally sucked to me (although I might not have been as wild about them as they were, LOL).

 

[Firefly13]

There is no evidence that a LR attomizer will kill your ego battery. Many on this forum including myself use this combination regularly without any problems.

Actually there is plenty of evidence on here, it has been discussed many times (even by vendors), I've destroyed 2 x eGo batteries that way and so have other on here, and my Riva batteries are not working like they used to, but i had been using 2.0ohm attys on those instead of 1.5ohm so that's probably why it didn't kill them already.

But like i said earlier, the price of just 30 bux for a Riva kit these days is nothing even if you are killing it faster than usual.

 

[clark8876]

Gotta agree with Firefly on the eGo batteries & LR attys.

Between my brother-in-law and myself, we lost 5 eGo/Riva batteries in 7 days when we first started using LR510s. Saw a thread in the Technical Issues - Batteries section of the forum where there was extensive discussion on the matter. Went back to standards, no more problems.

I know some people have had no problems but after my experience I'm just really wary now. Pity, I liked the LR's.

 

[Firefly13]

Gotta agree with Firefly on the eGo batteries & LR attys.

Between my brother-in-law and myself, we lost 5 eGo/Riva batteries in 7 days when we first started using LR510s. Saw a thread in the Technical Issues - Batteries section of the forum where there was extensive discussion on the matter. Went back to standards, no more problems.

I know some people have had no problems but after my experience I'm just really wary now. Pity, I liked the LR's.

You can try some 2.0ohm attys like ikenvape sell, or some 2.0ohm cartomizers, they aren't as hard on the batteries you might be ok with those.

 

[NCC]

I've been trying to find some 306 atomizers which aren't LR, and I'm coming up empty. I still use my eGo-type quite a bit ... aren't standard 306's made?


EDIT: Found them, with some help.

 

[Krisb]

Krisb... yes, I have an Omega,Thermo, and Precise. And, sure if I knew then what I know now I would have dropped the $200 on the P-18 on day one, but nobody could have convinced me on that day to spend that much. But I wish I would have seen a post on the first couple of pages that day that just said "buy an ego kit for $55 and a Cisco 306 for $10" and you can't go wrong. That's what I am trying to do here.

I understood your point, but I, again, am just saying that you should give a newbie a clear idea of what options there are. I, for one, read many differing views on all the PV's and wish the forum was not so flooded with the ego fans. I'm not saying they aren't right for many people, but they will not be for everyone. As someone who was a newbie no so long ago, and still am in many ways, I would have preferred a basic list of what PV's would be good for a beginner-not just a simple, buy an ego. If someone had pointed out the real differences and a pro and con list for each basic PV/mod, I could have made a more informed choice.

There is just so much info on here for a newbie to read through that really makes no sense until you have your first in your hands that it would be nice if there were more options offered up. Hmmm...someone handy with spreadsheets? Maybe I'll work on one...that would be nice to see visually the basic ones compared in real terms...cost, size, battery life

 

[Goldenkobold]

Why would you spend 55 dollars on an ugly joye ego kit when you can get a riva for 29.99? or a single inferno for 23 bucks?
if your going to say "well money isn't everything" then YES your right...get a mod.

 

[Krisb]

I think there are too many out there that have never tried a mod that for some reason think they are in some way complicated...so not true! Therefor, they recommend an ego.

 

[Icoth]

I'll avoid the whole mod vs. ego debate and challenge the LR atty recommendation. When I started the vaper was harsh with a regular atty. If I had been using LR, I may have decided vaping wasn't going to work for me. Yes, I like higher voltage now, but it took a while to get to that point.

I also take exception with the idea that TV waffle juice will please everyone. It's not what I buy. It's not what a lot of people buy.

There are lots of products that are popular because we're all different. It would be nice if one kit and one juice would work for everyone, but it's just not that simple.