I just got mine from D&B Gold. I love it, and for $50.00 shipped, it cannot be beat. A great 808 upgrade. 2 batteries, 4 mega cartridges, a charger and Bill even threw in a drip tip! Fantastic prices and customer service. I love the 650, personal choice, because its a perfect fit in my hand. No led bottom, its the soft battery button, very nice for stealth vaping. No more carrying around my charger or bottles. One battery, one full cartridge and I'm good all day at work. Ego, Kgo, Vgo, Ugo, GoGo, Echo, Echo-e. I have had good luck with V4L, good prophets and ikenvape carts on it. I go with the IGO.