IGO-w with itaste MVP 2.0.. what do you think?

[Ksprings]

What do the vet's have to say about my vape gear that has yet to come? VERY excited and what is the recommend dual coil ohms you would run on this. also any available tips,tricks, and build quirks.. I will be using 28 ga. kanthal and 2.5mm wick... what do you think about the size wick and coil i'm using? Any and ALL information would be great.

 

[VaPreis]

I try to build coil setups for my innokin SVD around 1.5Ω total resistance. In a paralel dual coil setup, (like the Igo-W) the total resistance will be half of your lowest resistance coil. So in other words, you will need to build two 3Ω coils to achieve a 1.5Ω total resistance.

That should be fairly easy to do, but you'll have an easier time doing it with some thinner wire that will give you more resistance with less wraps. I'd recommend trying some 30 gauge kanthal instead. Then maybe start with 5 to 6 wraps for one coil. Install the one coil and check your resistance on your MVP. If you hit 3Ω, build another just like it. If not, adjust the amount of wraps accordingly.

 

[acooknamedmike]

Well, the IGO-W and MVP2 is my exact same setup! I've been using it now for the past 3 days with a Delrin wide mouth drip tip. Looking boss!(see avatar pic) The IGO-W is my first RDA.

I use 30G Kanthal, and cotton yarn. Previous to this I was recoiling a Protank 2 with 6 wraps on a 5/32" drill bit and getting a solid 1.8ohms. When I got the IGO, I just launched right into it and put in two 6 wrap coils on there. The resistance came out to 0.8ohms, which is definitely not optimal for an MVP, nor the type of resistance I really want to vape on anything. I tore it down and built a 7 wrap single coil which came out at 1.9ohms. So far it's a solid vape with lots of plumage and good flavour. When I burn out this build out I'll try the dual coil again, maybe 10 wraps per a coil per side and see where it comes out. I don't know where I heard it, but I have this nagging feeling that resistance should be 1.5ohms or above for a VV/VW Innokin product to perform well.

BTW, don't know if your MVP kit is coming with the iClear 16's or not, but I previously had the iClear 30's, and have to say the 16's are much better performers. Lots of flavour and vapour, and a world of difference from my Protank 2, which I previously thought was indispensable. I use them primarily while driving to avoid dripping. The IGO-Dubya is the one I use at home.

 

[Ksprings]

Exact almost to the T of how i roll. lol. BEAST

 

[Ksprings]

Much appreciated!!! very helpful

 

[acooknamedmike]

Sorry for the double post, but a couple of things...

Wash that IGO with soap and water before coiling up and vaping. I got some nasty machining taste when I first fired it.

Also, I was so used to my Protank builds that I got cocky with the IGO, and finished it before I checked everything out. The second time around, I put my coil through and just tightened the screws to make contact, then checked ohms. At this point I still had the option to either continue, or pull it out and add another wrap, or unwrap accordingly. I think that's probably a good benefit to using the "drill bit" method of wrapping, as I typically wick my coils with the doubled up yarn after they're installed.

At a point of contention, I feel the o-rings are a little loose and could hold the cap on tighter for my liking. If you ever come across a good fix then send it my way.

 

[Ksprings]

is 28 gauge bigger than 30 gauge kanthal? what is your standard coil size and wick size?

 

[acooknamedmike]

To my knowledge, the lower the # of wire, the thicker it is. Like body piercing jewellery, an 18 gauge is smaller than a 6.

I wrap the coils on a 5/32" drill bit (smooth end), so I guess technically it's a micro coil. I don't torch the wire before coiling, but give it a quick burn without wick after I have my ohms figured.

For the yarn, I went to the craft shop and got a whole ball of pure cotton, which probably has enough wick in it until I die. I cut of a few feet at a time, knot both ends so it doesn't fray, boil for 10 mins to get the "craft store" smell out of it, then throw it in the clothes dryer to dry out. The cleaned yarn just stays in my build kit and I snip off as needed until I kneed more. Don't know much about yarn really but apparently there are different thicknesses. The one I have is "4", which is quite heavy, but can still be threaded through a micro coil even when doubled over.

 

[Credo]

For my VV/VW devices I usually just keep it simple and do regular 3 Ohm coils (1.5ish when installed together) with AWG 33 (I already had this size laying around when I got the W).

No brainer, I just measure up the amount of wire for my target resistance (with a little extra for attaching/positioning) and wrap it right on the cotton...the number and size of wraps isn't important since I've measured out the right length of wire.

For me, the most important thing with this atty is learning where to put the coils for the throat hit you like. Take note of the air holes in the side of the cover...where you put the coils in relation to these holes will have far more to do with your flavor and throat hit than the coil-build itself.

I've done a few micro-coils on this thing as well, but I only have AWG 28 for experimenting on that front, and I'm still debating if it's not just as good to go with a single coil for the VV/VW devices.

Ya just gotta try stuff

 

[acooknamedmike]

If you're interested, I'll post play by play pics of coil and wicking tomorrow. Let me know if you'll need it.

 

[acooknamedmike]

Good advice, Credo. I was thinking maybe the dual coils should be left to mech mod territory.

I'm really having good performance with that 1.9ohm single in this RDA. Coil is positioned right next to the air hole.

 

[Ksprings]

im glad to see the igo w... what i ordered... is going to fit/fire on the mvp 2.0 because as i read i am finding out that a few rda's and some other tanks do not fire/fit on the mvp... it would be great to build a list of things that do not fire on the mvp... where do u think i should post this for the maximum amount of eyes to see and participate in the list building?... or if you already know! thanks you guys are very helpful in this "alien" world of vaping.

 

[Credo]

im glad to see the igo w... what i ordered... is going to fit/fire on the mvp 2.0 because as i read i am finding out that a few rda's and some other tanks do not fire/fit on the mvp... it would be great to build a list of things that do not fire on the mvp... where do u think i should post this for the maximum amount of eyes to see and participate in the list building?... or if you already know! thanks you guys are very helpful in this "alien" world of vaping.

1. Put it in your personal blog, then you can throw up a link to it at will and not constantly repeat yourself.

2. You might find the Main MVP forum and post it there and request sticky status?

 

[DasBluCig]

SOME IGO units suffer from a too-short center pin, thus not making contact with the pin on the MVP v2.....
Try LIGHTLY tapping the CENTER POST screw with a small tack-hammer or the like....this will move the pin DOWN so it makes good contact.
If you're having trouble with ALL or MOST devices' connection....try pulling the center pin of the MVP UP with a pair of tweezers or needle-nose pliers (CAREFUL!!! GO EASY!! Just enough "pull" to lift the pin a mm or so....)...
I've had to make the center pin adjustment on one of my 3 IGO-L's....
Good Luck!
Happy( vaping) Trails!

 

[acooknamedmike]

I had that connection problem with my VV V3. I pulled the post up a little with a small screwdriver and it worked. So far there's nothing that wouldn't work on that connection, and the MVP has the very same one.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

TBH, trying your first few builds on a regulated mod is a great idea. In fact, before I invested in a Reo, I almost exclusively used VV/VW mods. It is a total fallacy that you need a mech to use RBAs or dual coils. Your setup should work fine. The older igo w fired fine on my MVP.

A couple things though, as others alluded to, 28 gauge Kanthal is pretty low to wrap dual coils that will fire on your MVP. The resistance of your coil is half of the two coils you wrap for DC. So you should aim for each coil to be around 3 ohms, making the total resistance 1.5 ohms. To comfortably wrap a 3 ohm coil, you really need 32 or 34 gauge. Otherwise you will need a ton of wraps (like 10+) with 28.

I could never successfully get a DC build to work well. You have to get both coils to be almost exactly the same resistance