IJOY EXO SERIES TANKS (EXO S, EXO X, EXO XL, EXO RTA)

[Vaperx]

I wouldn't go that far

I would lol. My Engines haven't been touched since I got the Exo like 5 days ago. Engine is an alright tank but I don't have the time or patience to play around with something so many times to get some decent flavour. Trying 10 different coils in 2 days with different wicking methods was killing me lol.

With the Exo I can do any wrap and just wick. No tricks and crap. Get awesome flavour every single time. Just for an example I threw a bunch of different resistance at the tank and just wicked the same each time and it's perfect. That's what I like

 

[Heartsdelight]

I wouldn't go that far

I wouldn't either, I love both!

 

[ShowerHead]

I would lol. My Engines haven't been touched since I got the Exo like 5 days ago. Engine is an alright tank but I don't have the time or patience to play around with something so many times to get some decent flavour. Trying 10 different coils in 2 days with different wicking methods was killing me lol.
With the Exo I can do any wrap and just wick. No tricks and crap. Get awesome flavour every single time. Just for an example I threw a bunch of different resistance at the tank and just wicked the same each time and it's perfect. That's what I like

I'm not sure I follow, you seem to be saying that regardless of wicking or coil you get great flavor. Hmmmm.
When I see people who are changing this and that rapidly, I begin to question the results.
Especially when it's one tank I haven't vaped yet and one that I know and love.

That you (or others) couldn't find a way to make the Engine/Nano suitable has very little to do with me.
Why? Well, what kind of coil do I use? What metal? What wicking material? How much? What juice do I have? Do I vape wattage or TC? At what power levels?

If it produces no/weak vapor, I'm interested in the info.
If it has bad threads or loose JFC/AFC, I'm interested in the info.
If it has a short/long 510, I'm interested in the info.
If it leaks, I'm interested in the info.

'Awesome flavor'? Too subjective and holds little interest for me. Not zero interest mind you, little.
I like flavor, but always want functionality, especially a dry tank. Not interested in any tank that requires, as you say, tricks and crap to wick/fill to minimize leaks.

At the end of the day, I'm not a hobbyist. I vape to not smoke. I sometimes vape unflavored. Above all I'm looking for as carefree an experience as I can while getting my nicotine fix.

I can appreciate all the odd coils, works of art they are. I like to look at the huge tanks, think the toaster level coils are funny, wonder what a juice that costs $25 for 30ml could possibly taste like. But I'm a simple vaper who just wants a nice mod, leak free tank, long lasting batteries, 4L of nicotine in the freezer.

I'm getting an EXO, but like I said, if it leaks even a tiny bit, it'll be out on its ..... Who knows, maybe I'll finally find this elusive 'flavor' everyone is on about.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

I wouldn't go that far

U might not, but I would. I personally never understood the engine hype. The flavor isn't even that good. I've seen a few recommendation threads where I caught flack for saying not to get an engine and the person getting them was disappointed with the flavor. The top air just can't compete flavor wise

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[Don29palms]

U might not, but I would. I personally never understood the engine hype. The flavor isn't even that good. I've seen a few recommendation threads where I caught flack for saying not to get an engine and the person getting them was disappointed with the flavor. The top air just can't compete flavor wise

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I disagree. I have an Engine. Not the Nano. I get great flavor with it and strongly recommend it as a great tank. The EXO RTA is a great single coil tank but as far as a dual coil tank goes it's ok. For dual coil tanks I'll take my Crius Plus or Engine over the EXO everytime.

 

[TrollDragon]

I never did get a regular Engine and probably won't at this point in the game. I have two Crius+ as daily drivers and they are excellent, except for a little Merlin type JFC seepage.

The Engine Nano is a struggle for me to get decent flavor out of it. I think that rear air hole needs to be blocked off and others have done this successfully improving the flavor.

I am still waiting on my EXO to hit Canadian shores...

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

I disagree. I have an Engine. Not the Nano. I get great flavor with it and strongly recommend it as a great tank. The EXO RTA is a great single coil tank but as far as a dual coil tank goes it's ok. For dual coil tanks I'll take my Crius Plus or Engine over the EXO everytime.

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't agree with your assessment but different strokes for different folks

Personally I'm a dual coil rta kind of guy. I'd say about half my attys fit that description and the other half being a combo of rdas premade coil tanks and a few single coil rtas. I've always been a flavor guy trying to get the best flavor. It really is dependant on builds too. Top airflow like the engine just can't keep up with the builds I do. The top air tanks are really suited for smaller coils and less watts IMO.

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[Don29palms]

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't agree with your assessment but different strokes for different folks

Personally I'm a dual coil rta kind of guy. I'd say about half my attys fit that description and the other half being a combo of rdas premade coil tanks and a few single coil rtas. I've always been a flavor guy trying to get the best flavor. It really is dependant on builds too. Top airflow like the engine just can't keep up with the builds I do. The top air tanks are really suited for smaller coils and less watts IMO.

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I can see we obviously are going to disagree. I think you are completely wrong about the Engine for sure. I have dual alien coils in my Engine right now running it at 65watts. The flavor is on point and clouds are perfect.
It is definitely subjetive and I just think you're wrong.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

I can see we obviously are going to disagree. I think you are completely wrong about the Engine for sure. I have dual alien coils in my Engine right now running it at 65watts. The flavor is on point and clouds are perfect.
It is definitely subjetive and I just think you're wrong.

Subjective can't be wrong. It's just different opinions. I don't think your wrong or I'm wrong. I just think we have different opinions. I'm using dual aliens in my rdta box but vaping them at 100 with a hard preheat. Even my single coil alien set ups like I did in my exo I vaped at 50-60 watts. So for me a dual coil alien at 60 watts wouldn't produce enough vapor for a good vape. Not saying you can't get what you enjoy from it but that would make more sense on why you like the engine. The exo would be too much air when your already not getting much vapor and at 60 watts for coils like that your probably better off with the engine pulling up air. But if u were to take the same build pop it in the exo at 100 watts I'd think you would enjoy the vape a lot more. You should really try it out.

Most people don't understand that flavor comes from build/power (aka vapor production) and air flow mixture. The mixture has to be just right for optimal flavor.

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[Don29palms]

Subjective can't be wrong. It's just different opinions. I don't think your wrong or I'm wrong. I just think we have different opinions. I'm using dual aliens in my rdta box but vaping them at 100 with a hard preheat. Even my single coil alien set ups like I did in my exo I vaped at 50-60 watts. So for me a dual coil alien at 60 watts wouldn't produce enough vapor for a good vape. Not saying you can't get what you enjoy from it but that would make more sense on why you like the engine. The exo would be too much air when your already not getting much vapor and at 60 watts for coils like that your probably better off with the engine pulling up air. But if u were to take the same build pop it in the exo at 100 watts I'd think you would enjoy the vape a lot more. You should really try it out.

Most people don't understand that flavor comes from build/power (aka vapor production) and air flow mixture. The mixture has to be just right for optimal flavor.

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Again I personally don't think you know what you're talking about and I'll leave it at that.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

Again I personally don't think you know what you're talking about and I'll leave it at that.

That's fine and all, but for the sake of being open minded why not try a single alien in the exo at 60 watts. It'll out produce your dual in the engine by far. And I know this cause I've done the same exact thing for the engine. I have about 30 dual coil rtas give or take and the engine ranks in the bottom half flavor wise. You aren't using enough watts to push those coils. It's like buying a Ferrari but driving 20mph.

Not saying you are wrong or can't enjoy it, I'm just saying be a little open minded and give it a try cause you might suprise yourself. I always stay open minded and am willing to try new things personally. If someone tells me something I don't write it off. I try it personally to see.

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[Don29palms]

That's fine and all, but for the sake of being open minded why not try a single alien in the exo at 60 watts. It'll out produce your dual in the engine by far. And I know this cause I've done the same exact thing for the engine. I have about 30 dual coil rtas give or take and the engine ranks in the bottom half flavor wise. You aren't using enough watts to push those coils. It's like buying a Ferrari but driving 20mph.

Not saying you are wrong or can't enjoy it, I'm just saying be a little open minded and give it a try cause you might suprise yourself. I always stay open minded and am willing to try new things personally. If someone tells me something I don't write it off. I try it personally to see.

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You are saying I'm wrong and I'm not. We are going do have to agree to disagree. I am running those coils with more than enough power. You have no Idea how I build my coils to form any opinion of how much power is too much or too little. I'm not saying the EXO is not good. In fact I've said it is a great single coil deck and because of the options I have recommended to quite a few people. The dual coil setup pales in comparison to other dual coil tanks but it isn't bad.

 

[ShowerHead]

Subjective can't be wrong. It's just different opinions. I don't think your wrong or I'm wrong. I just think we have different opinions. I'm using dual aliens in my rdta box but vaping them at 100 with a hard preheat. Even my single coil alien set ups like I did in my exo I vaped at 50-60 watts. So for me a dual coil alien at 60 watts wouldn't produce enough vapor for a good vape. Not saying you can't get what you enjoy from it but that would make more sense on why you like the engine. The exo would be too much air when your already not getting much vapor and at 60 watts for coils like that your probably better off with the engine pulling up air. But if u were to take the same build pop it in the exo at 100 watts I'd think you would enjoy the vape a lot more. You should really try it out.

Most people don't understand that flavor comes from build/power (aka vapor production) and air flow mixture. The mixture has to be just right for optimal flavor.

So, is this optimum 100W in wattage mode or TC?
I really don't think you'd at all like my setup, TC at 440F with SS430 single wire coils, which on the dual Engine runs about 14W to maintain after the initial ramp. But, surprisingly, I get vapor and flavor/taste from it.
I'd think then that instead of "I don't understand the hype", maybe "I don't think the tank has good flavor" would be better. Because, you know, lots of us have just that different opinion that you mentioned. And the experience to back it up. Regarding the Engine, it is because it holds decent amount of juice, easy to build and to wick, never leaks a drop, looks good, has flavor. To me, and many others, that's an amazing tank.
Lots of us aren't hobbyists, but have what we like. Many of us started with a spinner and ego tank. Darn near anything is better than that now, but it got us off smoking.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

You are saying I'm wrong and I'm not. We are going do have to agree to disagree. I am running those coils with more than enough power. You have no Idea how I build my coils to form any opinion of how much power is too much or too little. I'm not saying the EXO is not good. In fact I've said it is a great single coil deck and because of the options I have recommended to quite a few people. The dual coil setup pales in comparison to other dual coil tanks but it isn't bad.

nope, never said you were wrong. period. I don't think there is a wrong way to vape. as long as your happy and it keeps you off cigs, you can't be wrong. All i said was there are ways to optimize the performance of your build if you wanted to try and get more flavor out of it.

So, is this optimum 100W in wattage mode or TC?
I really don't think you'd at all like my setup, TC at 440F with SS430 single wire coils, which on the dual Engine runs about 14W to maintain after the initial ramp. But, surprisingly, I get vapor and flavor/taste from it.
I'd think then that instead of "I don't understand the hype", maybe "I don't think the tank has good flavor" would be better. Because, you know, lots of us have just that different opinion that you mentioned. And the experience to back it up. Regarding the Engine, it is because it holds decent amount of juice, easy to build and to wick, never leaks a drop, looks good, has flavor. To me, and many others, that's an amazing tank.
Lots of us aren't hobbyists, but have what we like. Many of us started with a spinner and ego tank. Darn near anything is better than that now, but it got us off smoking.

I vape about 50/50 between power and TC. I've been doing more power vaping lately though for review purposes. before that i was about 80-90% vaping in TC.
I do agree that while i may not enjoy the way you vape, it doesn't mean it's wrong by any means. I started with a little ego c twist and a kagner evod tank. I'm sure you all remember those little vape pens. But back then RTAs sucked as did regulated mods so i pretty quickly moved onto mechs and RDAs to get the flavor i wanted. I was always a flavor guy, even when i smoked. I mostly dipped flavor skoal pouches. The apple was my favorite until they stopped making it, then i did mint, wintergreen and citrus. the berry was nasty. When i smoked cigars it was flavored swishers and cloves and such. when i smoked real cigars I'd dip them in grand marnier. I never smoked regular cigs.

I'm not questioning anyone's opinion or experience, One of the things i love about vaping is there is truly a product for everyone. whether it be a little vape pen, an RTA with a regulated mod or a quad battery mech with a 40mm RTA. Whatever you want, there is a product for you. The engine is a different style of RTA then the EXO. they are for different purposes. the engine is a dual coil RTA suited for smaller builds and lower watts, while the EXO is a dual coil RTA suited for Higher watts and bigger builds, or a single coil RTA for any build big or small. The engine does what it's supposed to do. It's short with a good juice capacity, is easy to build , doesn't leak, it's good for what it is. I just don't consider it the flavor monster that some do.

 

[Vaperx]

I'm not sure I follow, you seem to be saying that regardless of wicking or coil you get great flavor. Hmmmm.
When I see people who are changing this and that rapidly, I begin to question the results.
Especially when it's one tank I haven't vaped yet and one that I know and love.

That you (or others) couldn't find a way to make the Engine/Nano suitable has very little to do with me.
Why? Well, what kind of coil do I use? What metal? What wicking material? How much? What juice do I have? Do I vape wattage or TC? At what power levels?

If it produces no/weak vapor, I'm interested in the info.
If it has bad threads or loose JFC/AFC, I'm interested in the info.
If it has a short/long 510, I'm interested in the info.
If it leaks, I'm interested in the info.

'Awesome flavor'? Too subjective and holds little interest for me. Not zero interest mind you, little.
I like flavor, but always want functionality, especially a dry tank. Not interested in any tank that requires, as you say, tricks and crap to wick/fill to minimize leaks.

At the end of the day, I'm not a hobbyist. I vape to not smoke. I sometimes vape unflavored. Above all I'm looking for as carefree an experience as I can while getting my nicotine fix.

I can appreciate all the odd coils, works of art they are. I like to look at the huge tanks, think the toaster level coils are funny, wonder what a juice that costs $25 for 30ml could possibly taste like. But I'm a simple vaper who just wants a nice mod, leak free tank, long lasting batteries, 4L of nicotine in the freezer.

I'm getting an EXO, but like I said, if it leaks even a tiny bit, it'll be out on its ..... Who knows, maybe I'll finally find this elusive 'flavor' everyone is on about.

Don't follow what exactly? Did I not say I threw a bunch of coils in the trying different things with the Nano? Maybe I'll go into more detail.

I tried different Coil IDs, different coils(Claptons, SS316L etc). Stuffed the cotton down to the bottom, half way down not touching the base, just going in the channel etc. Plain and simple the flavour is muted on the Engine to me. Like I said I don't have time to play around with a tank to find a good vape. To me it has been too much work to get going with the OBS. Now I see people stuffing cotton in the airflow inside the chimney to get a better vape. I don't have time for those tips and tricks on the Nano.

With the Exo I can just build a coil and wick it. Done! No messing around how high I need the coil, how much cotton to put down the juice channel and so on. I never get a single dry hit or muted Flavour with any of the coils I've tried with it the first few days I had it. That's all I was trying to say. Maybe you read my post wrong since you went into other things. My point was pretty straight forward I thought.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

Don't follow what exactly? Did I not say I threw a bunch of coils in the trying different things with the Nano? Maybe I'll go into more detail.

I tried different Coil IDs, different coils(Claptons, SS316L etc). Stuffed the cotton down to the bottom, half way down not touching the base, just going in the channel etc. Plain and simple the flavour is muted on the Engine to me. Like I said I don't have time to play around with a tank to find a good vape. To me it has been too much work to get going with the OBS. Now I see people stuffing cotton in the airflow inside the chimney to get a better vape. I don't have time for those tips and tricks on the Nano.

With the Exo I can just build a coil and wick it. Done! No messing around how high I need the coil, how much cotton to put down the juice channel and so on. I never get a single dry hit or muted Flavour with any of the coils I've tried with it the first few days I had it. That's all I was trying to say. Maybe you read my post wrong since you went into other things. My point was pretty straight forward I thought.

I heard it loud and clear. nothing wrong with what you said. It's just sometimes people have differing opinions. I agree with what you said personally but others don't. which is fine we are all entitled to our opinion as long as we can discuss it civilly like adults with a mutual respect for each other

 

[ShowerHead]

It's short with a good juice capacity, is easy to build , doesn't leak, it's good for what it is. I just don't consider it the flavor monster that some do.

Ha! Nor do I. It's not supposed to be the flavor king. Nowhere I read anyway.
That's a long way from no flavor though.
For me it performs.

Don't follow what exactly? Did I not say I threw a bunch of coils in the trying different things with the Nano? Maybe I'll go into more detail.

No, I didn't follow a bit, you were just listing generics. If you have a point, make it.
Now I see partial details, but no wattage, if you were TC.
At any rate, generic 'That sucks and this is great' isn't informative.
What I gather is you didn't like some tank in the Engine line because it doesn't suit how ever you vape. If I knew how you vape that may be useful. As it stands, since I have no idea of your vaping style, it isn't.

The engine is a different style of RTA then the EXO. they are for different purposes. the engine is a dual coil RTA suited for smaller builds and lower watts, while the EXO is a dual coil RTA suited for Higher watts and bigger builds, or a single coil RTA for any build big or small.

See? Now that's informative. I know what the differences are between the two, and what to expect from any of the three options. I intend to try the EXO to see how the single coil is.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

Ha! Nor do I. It's not supposed to be the flavor king. Nowhere I read anyway.
That's a long way from no flavor though.
For me it performs.

It does do a good job at what it promises. It's a good RTA. Not saying you specifically but I've seen quite a few people (in general not saying only here) say it's the best flavor RTA. I just don't see it. Not saying they are wrong, just saying I don't get that assessment personally.

See? Now that's informative. I know what the differences are between the two, and what to expect from any of the three options. I intend to try the EXO to see how the single coil is.

I try to be informative most of the time

 

[Don29palms]

See? Now that's informative. I know what the differences are between the two, and what to expect from any of the three options. I intend to try the EXO to see how the single coil is.

It would be very informative if it was correct but it's not.

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

It would be very informative if it was correct but it's not.

You're entitled to feel how you want, but how can an opinion be incorrect?
I feel like I've been very cordial with you, but you seem to want to be standoff-ish which isn't my style.