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Can certain juices fry attys? I don't see how that can be so... I get RY4 from vaperite.com.

Some juices can definitely make atties stop performing properly prematurely. Juices which are dark in color and juices with high percentage VG can gunk up the atty and cause the early retirement.
 

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Can certain juices fry attys? I don't see how that can be so... I get RY4 from vaperite.com.

Abso-diddly-utley!juice plays a significant role in atomizer performance. Liquids are just as vital as applied voltages. Like Vapor was saying about VG. VG has a nasty rough burn causing a charcoal effect. Too much PG will just leak all over the place from being too thin. It's all about the elements and how they react with the soaking mesh and most importantly how they burn in the atomizers. The Chinese formula is 80/20 80 PG for flavor retainment and burning protection. 20 VG for the liquid not to be too thin while raising vapor production.

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"VR Vape juice is all house made. No imports. VR Vape juice contains natural and artificial flavors where as the natural & organic vape juice contains all natural and certified organic ingredients. I use USP Food grade PG & VG in all the juices I make."
As I was saying in the PM, I wish I had my liquid stock in so I can send it to you to do a trial run on the atomizers. I highly suggest trying out liquid from an actual factory manufacture to see how it goes. I guarantee your atomizer's will stop dying on you.
 

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Abso-diddly-utley!Juice plays a significant role in atomizer performance. Liquids are just as vital as applied voltages. Like Vapor was saying about VG. VG has a nasty rough burn causing a charcoal effect. Too much PG will just leak all over the place from being too thin. It's all about the elements and how they react with the soaking mesh and most importantly how they burn in the atomizers. The Chinese formula is 80/20 80 PG for flavor retainment and burning protection. 20 VG for the liquid not to be too thin while raising vapor production.


As I was saying in the PM, I wish I had my liquid stock in so I can send it to you to do a trial run on the atomizers. I highly suggest trying out liquid from an actual factory manufacture to see how it goes. I guarantee your atomizer's will stop dying on you.

I agree 100% on this... about 8 months back I ordered some eliquid from Johnson Creek and I took out a brand new RR (regular resistance) 510 attie and placed 4 drops into the attie. The first puff was tasty but by the 7th puff snap, crackle, and pop... brand new attie straight down the pisser. Just to make sure I pulled out another attie again by the 6th or 7th puff it went poof no more vapor. How can two brand new atties take a nose dive into the toilet?... it was the eliquid. Needless to say I never ordered Johnson Creeks yummy tobacco blend again or any of their elquid...
 
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Iken, thanks for the helpful replies! I usually get high VG RY4 from vaperite.com I am very iffy on ordering any other flavor because this stuff is the bomb!!
I know EXACTLY what you mean! RY4 is total Bliss. I don;t blame you in the least,finding a good RY4 is difficult these days. I occasionally RY4 from every vendor. One time, it was actually watered down Halo flavor! Too much $ down the drain. :mad: Does Vaprite offer a PG variation or take in any kind of special requests? 70-80%PG/20-30% is a safe place to be at. Personally I like 80/20 because it retains the flavor picture perfect while dishing out good vapor production and is totally atomizer friendly.
I agree 100% on this... about 8 months back I ordered some eliquid from Johnson Creek and I took out a brand new RR (regular resistance) 510 attie and placed 4 drops into the attie. The first puff was tasty but by the 7th puff snap, crackle, and pop... brand new attie straight down the pisser. Just to make sure I pulled out another attie again by the 6th or 7th puff it went poof no more vapor. How can two brand new atties take a nose dive into the toilet?... it was the eliquid. Needless to say I never ordered Johnson Creeks yummy tobacco blend again or any of their elquid...
NO worries Grimmer. As I hear it Johnsons Creek corrected this problem. The problem was that the liquid contained too much PG making the liquid so thin that it would seep in all the places of where it shouldn't of been.
 

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I know EXACTLY what you mean! RY4 is total Bliss. I don;t blame you in the least,finding a good RY4 is difficult these days. I occasionally RY4 from every vendor. One time, it was actually watered down Halo flavor! Too much $ down the drain. :mad: Does Vaprite offer a PG variation or take in any kind of special requests? 70-80%PG/20-30% is a safe place to be at. Personally I like 80/20 because it retains the flavor picture perfect while dishing out good vapor production and is totally atomizer friendly.

NO worries Grimmer. As I hear it Johnsons Creek corrected this problem. The problem was that the liquid contained too much PG making the liquid so thin that it would seep in all the places of where it shouldn't of been.

The eliquid I got was the reduced PG blend which really clogged the heck out of the attie and in turn the attie stopped working. Johnson Creeks ejuices at the time was NOT made for dripping. The regular eliquid they have was like water and when vaped there was little vapor but the flavor was really good. Their tennessee blend is one of my all time favs... but I can't drip with it so I don't use it... but I am curious to see how the eliquid would work in cartos. :)
 

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I vaped a 10ml bottle of JCO and was pleased with the result. Yes their liquid is thin and not suitable as such for dripping, but did extremely well in carts and, in my learned opinion should do extremely well in cartos given its viscosity.

That being said, Johnson Creek has developed a totally VG line that may indeed be suitable for dripping. Since you are a fan of their Tennessee Cured, I would give them another whirl. In both PG for cartos and VG for dripping. What have you got to loose. You might just find an old lost friend :)

It is unfortunate we can't get Johnson Creek in Canada because I would be all over it like a dirty shirt. That being said, their flavoured liquids have been reported as atty killers, but I have yet to see any negative reports on their tobacco flavours. I hope this helps.
 

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I vaped a 10ml bottle of JCO and was pleased with the result. Yes their liquid is thin and not suitable as such for dripping, but did extremely well in carts and, in my learned opinion should do extremely well in cartos given its viscosity.

That being said, Johnson Creek has developed a totally VG line that may indeed be suitable for dripping. Since you are a fan of their Tennessee Cured, I would give them another whirl. In both PG for cartos and VG for dripping. What have you got to loose. You might just find an old lost friend :)

It is unfortunate we can't get Johnson Creek in Canada because I would be all over it like a dirty shirt. That being said, their flavoured liquids have been reported as atty killers, but I have yet to see any negative reports on their tobacco flavours. I hope this helps.

I just went to the JC sight and they have a new flavor... its watermelon, raspberry, mellon and mint in one bottle.... sounds intriguing. And yes JC has the best tasting tobacco flavors anywhere. I may just take your advice on this one and give them a try again. It's been 8 months since the last order, so I'm sure the eliquid has improved since then. :)

But first I have to make another order for the 801 mini atties over at IKENVAPE.... These atties are performing flawlessly for a week now and it' the best vape I could possibly ask for.... :)
 
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Just so you have a heads up, a lot of members will want to know if your e-liquids contain any Diacetyl or alternate chemical (2,3-pentanedione).
They are asking that any e-liquids that have the these chemicals included in the mix need/should have full disclosure on your site.
Just a heads up.
 

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Just so you have a heads up, a lot of members will want to know if your e-liquids contain any Diacetyl or alternate chemical (2,3-pentanedione).
They are asking that any e-liquids that have the these chemicals included in the mix need/should have full disclosure on your site.
Just a heads up.
Make sure you post Wikipedia as a reference in your disclaimer. :)
 

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So what is a drip safe RY4 eliquid? I am not convinced that attys last for months and months on a 5+volts PV. They never do for me...

Heavily laden VG liquids and vaping style will lead to premature atty failure. You might want to try pulsing the button on your PV while taking a toot. This is difficult on the GLV because of the "clicky" button, easier done with non clicky buttons. This will not change vapour production as vapour is produced for 1 sec or so after button release. If you are taking 5-7 sec hits at reg voltage, 3 sec hits at 5V or better is more than sufficient to produce VP similar to a 5-7 sec @ 3.7V

Some folks do go through attys quicker than others, some folks come to accept this because of their vaping styles. While I can get 5-6 months out of reg attys @ 3.7V, that longevity is non-existant at HV vaping, regardless of HV resistance or not. That being said, HV attys and XHV attys will last longer than stock attys at HV.

All that being said, this particular line of attys is the best IMO out there and this is the only place for all my atty needs, because they are consistent. However, a new atty needs seasoning and some take longer than others, it is the luck of the draw. I have prematurely poped an atty myself when I hastily put it through the seasoning process. I hope this helps.
 

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Just so you have a heads up, a lot of members will want to know if your e-liquids contain any Diacetyl or alternate chemical (2,3-pentanedione).
They are asking that any e-liquids that have the these chemicals included in the mix need/should have full disclosure on your site.
Just a heads up.
Thanks Tina, has Diacetyl been deemed bad by the vaping community? If thats the case, people should really stay away from alcohol and buttered toast! :laugh: I'll ask about this when our guys come on about these ingredients.

So what is a drip safe RY4 eliquid? I am not convinced that attys last for months and months on a 5+volts PV. They never do for me...
I kid you not my good man. I seriously have atties here from my first ever Dura kit, that are still alive and we're talking January of 2009. The Only atomizers that ever died on me,were prototypes for 7.4-8.0v vaping and believe me I have a TON of atomizers I use from testing each batch. I do use Chinese liquids as they are specifically engineered for vaping. Most mixer's use VG,PG,Nic and flavoring combined and sell it. I believe there is far more going on in the manufacturing than meets the eye. Why else would heavy equipment be used for manufacturing these liquids.
Now, I'm not bashing anyone who mixes or vendors that mix to resell. As I do plan to not only carry factory made liquids but liquids from a US vendor that takes all the necessary precautions in professionally mixing and I do have alot of respect for those that do mix appropriately. The combination of these ingredients liquids have to be precise or close to for longevity of atomizers.
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They are upset about the popcorn factory and the workers who 'inhaled' the fumes of this chemical and it affected their lungs-the only cure seems to be a lung transplant. Now mind you, we are not getting near the levels those workers were inhaling. Yes-wander around the forum a bit when you have a chance, members are grouping together and getting all over this. Ingesting the chemical has no effect as the body can break it down properly, it is the inhalation that has led to lung problems-in specific quantities. What those quantities are, I have no clue.
I am not as upset-could be a good thing-could be a bad thing-I don't know and will not be joining those discussions. I have been keeping up with them for the most part.
Figured I would let you know. All they are really asking for at this point is to state which flavors have this ingredient and it's counterpart/replacement ingredient.
You know me, I'm just a FYI girl and here to help with anything behind the scenes kinda person.
 

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They are upset about the popcorn factory and the workers who 'inhaled' the fumes of this chemical and it affected their lungs-the only cure seems to be a lung transplant. Now mind you, we are not getting near the levels those workers were inhaling. Yes-wander around the forum a bit when you have a chance, members are grouping together and getting all over this. Ingesting the chemical has no effect as the body can break it down properly, it is the inhalation that has led to lung problems-in specific quantities. What those quantities are, I have no clue.
I am not as upset-could be a good thing-could be a bad thing-I don't know and will not be joining those discussions. I have been keeping up with them for the most part.
Figured I would let you know. All they are really asking for at this point is to state which flavors have this ingredient and it's counterpart/replacement ingredient.
You know me, I'm just a FYI girl and here to help with anything behind the scenes kinda person.
Ohhhh! I see. Yes, this is a huge issue. Popcorn Maker Drops Diacetyl Flavoring To Prevent Lung Risk Forgive my ignorance Tina :( If they use dactyl, you can guarantee it won't be in our shop.
 

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