Let me preface the following with how much honor I have for you Southern Gent and the zealous way in which you are imparting the Word of God to those of us on this forum. I can tell you have spent much time, thought and prayer in your endeavor to rightly divide the word for the readers here. I thank you for spurring me on to revisit this subject once again.
This is a good discussion, and I think we have run into a snag of different doctrinal beliefs among our believers. However, it is a foundational difference and we must use exceedingly great care in dividing this truth..... a few questions to ponder:
1) Can a person be saved without being baptized? Say it's the very last minute of their life and they recognize their immediate need, so they say Lord I have failed you, please accept me. Is it possible for that person to be saved without water baptism?
2) A person accepts Jesus in their heart, but their church hasn't had a water baptism service yet...it's been a day since they accepted Jesus and then they die in a car accident....Is this person's acceptance of Jesus "acceptable" as righteous because of their faith? OR, because they did not follow with the "works" aspect, is their "faith" and the blood of Jesus discounted as being insufficient?
For some reason I am reminded of what the outward sign was for those that served God and followed the law before Jesus....that sign was by circumcision. But now we are under the circumcision of the heart. When exactly does that circumcision take place? And who exactly is the one who performs that circumcision, us or the Lord?
Are we going back to works here?
I fully agree that baptism is a huge part of obedience, following an instruction. The benefits are immeasurable, I remember my baptism...it was awesome! Standing there realizing that I was outwardly expressing an act that had already happened inwardly (and believe me, the change was instantaneous..the moment I accepted), it strengthened my faith in that I died to sin the instant I believed that the blood of Jesus was sufficient. My baptism took place months after I was saved.
When I try to wrap my heart and mind around to the way that baptism has been portrayed as eqaul to what Jesus did for us it is very hard to swallow, actually painful to read. Is it my works again...are we on the merry-go-round one more time? The law proved how impossible it is for us in the flesh to please God. It is the blood that covers our unrighteousness, not our acts on the beliefs that the blood covers our unrighteousness. There would have been no reason for Jesus to shed his blood if it was as easy as stepping into some water and have a few words spoken over me.
In Galatians 3, Paul dealt severely with those who were going back to the works:
1) You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2) I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? 3) Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? 4) Have you suffered so much for nothingif it really was for nothing? 5) Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?
6) Consider Abraham: He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. 7) Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. 8) The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: All nations will be blessed through you. 9) So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
10) All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. 11) Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, The righteous will live by faith. 12) The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, The man who does these things will live by them. 13) Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree. 14) He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
(Eph. 2:8-9) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Eph. 2:8-9)
Are we de-emphasizing the Blood of Christ as an all-sufficient payment for sin, believing that the blood of Jesus is not really sufficient to cleanse us from all sin? Instead, believing that salvation must be obtained through both the good work of Christ on the cross, and through the good work of man in baptism. We need to be careful to not hold to this doctrine, believing that Man therefore becomes a co-redeemer together with Christ. It is not salvation by the grace of God plus the works of man...
Yes, baptism is a commandment and an act of obedience and I encourage all who believe on his name to do so...... but His blood is more than sufficient to cleanse me from ALL unrighteousness.
the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (I John 1:7)
Love of the Father