I'm Discouraged

[justagirl]

And maybe I shouldn't be so I thought I would post and get thoughts. I went to my doctor and she says, "your e-cig is as bad as the real thing" and when I told her that because of it I was down to 3 "real" cigarettes per day she says "three per day may as well be thirty. It's duration of smoking not amount you smoke."

I left feeling really blah. I know for myself that I do not cough as much. I feel better and have more energy but, dang... she just made me feel stupid.

JAG

 

[Spazmelda]

I suggest you shop for a new doctor!

 

[Kirkwood]

Your doctor is clearly a bit uneducated in modern nicotine delivery systems and probably does not want to learn. If you feel better, you may be quite a bit smarter than your doctor.

 

[wheezal]

i'd call the catalog company your doctor ordered his wall diploma's from and see if they do returns. mebbe whatever internet class he got his 'medical/HVAC/refrigerator repair' training in will offer discounts for failed students.

 

[Spazmelda]

There is really no doubt that an electronic cigarette is safer than combustible cigarettes. Google 'Drexel electronic cigarettes' if you want to read a nice review of current research on the matter. Also, I have heard the thing about 'Cutting back has no benefits" but that makes absolutely no logical sense to me. IMO, where that comes from is the idea that people who cut back are very likely to gradually increase their intake again over time. Some tobacco control 'experts' have this way of thinking the end justifies the means, so they have no problem lying about reduced harm by cutting back if they think that ultimately you are going to go back to smoking. Electronic cigarettes completely change that paradigm, because it seems that cutting back is a natural part of the progression to completely switching for some people.

 

[Criticalmass]

And maybe I shouldn't be so I thought I would post and get thoughts. I went to my doctor and she says, "your e-cig is as bad as the real thing" and when I told her that because of it I was down to 3 "real" cigarettes per day she says "three per day may as well be thirty. It's duration of smoking not amount you smoke."

I left feeling really blah. I know for myself that I do not cough as much. I feel better and have more energy but, dang... she just made me feel stupid.

JAG

Doctors are quite capable of being sheeple as well. Was she able to explain why you feel better? Probably not. For every good doctor out there I have encountered 3 that weren't worth spit. And unfortunately I have plenty of experience to be able to make that statement and know it to be true.

 

[Bronze]

Your doctor is an idiot and her practicing license should be revoked. Your doctor knows nothing. I wouldn't let her treat me for a hangnail.

 

[Hypatia]

I'm so angry for you, for that cruddy doctor's "advice." Joke: What do you call a medical school student who graduates at the bottom of their class? Doctor.

Seriously though, not all medical providers have a clue about many of the things they speak of. Obviously, this doctor is completely clueless about how to encourage smoking cessation. That is no way to support someone reducing their risk. "3 is as bad as 30" is probably one of the most insensitive, unhelpful, detrimental "medical advice" toward a smoker that I've heard in a good while. Shame on your doctor. And you do NOT have to go back, or listen to such things.

 

[wheezal]

Doctors are quite capable of being sheeple as well. Was she able to explain why you feel better? Probably not.

"Hrrmmm, you're blood has just been flying through your veins recently...have you been eating enough gristle?"

 

[JayEatsAirplane]

she says "three per day may as well be thirty. It's duration of smoking not amount you smoke."

JAG

Seriously?
So, if I smoke 1 cigarette a day for the next 30 years it's the same as 3 packs a day for 30 years?
Logic.

 

[steveo9043]

did she try offering a prescription of chantix while she was at it?

 

[Spazmelda]

Seriously?
So, if I smoke 1 cigarette a day for the next 30 years it's the same as 3 packs a day for 30 years?
Logic.

Exactly! If someone believes that claim with no skepticism at all, then that someone needs their head examined. It defies all logic, and it's an extremely damaging notion to disseminate to the public.

 

[Spazmelda]

Here's a link to the drexel paper. Every vaper should read this and have the link handy. http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/files/publichealth/ms08.pdf

 

[bluecat]

I normally wouldn't say this. After leaving our peditrician after 10+ because of a diagnosis... I guess it would better to say that he was too freaking lazy to do the leg work to figure it out, never hesitate to leave to a physician if you do like what they have to say.

Yes the condition was a 1 in a million, but taking my wife aside and saying my little girl was doing it to herself was enough. Apparently, he was wrong too. The diagnosis by the next doctor and specialists was correct. The Medical Board of Ohio received a letter too.

Docs are a dime a dozen anymore (primary physicians). Mine stopped asking me if I wanted a prescription for Chantrix after 10 years of asking me. When I told him I was using an e cig he said, hmmmm. At the end of the visit he mentioned nothing about it or Chantrix. It was nice.

 

[FearTX]

Do not be discouraged in your efforts to a healthier lifestyle, any momentum gained in reducing your tobacco use is a good thing. While the jury is still out as to weather or not vaping is safe the consensus is that at a minimum is is less harmful.

I myself would be questionable about the quality of care I was receiving from that doctor and find another.

My doctor applauded my switch, he did tell me he would rather I would just breathe clean air and reduce the amount of nicotine and caffeine that I consume everyday to 0. But harm reduction is better than no reduction.

and FYI 3 per day is better than 30 per day.

 

[TruSound]

Tell the quack...you'll quit ecigs as soon as they put the [moderated] down.

 

[stylezuk]

I suggest you shop for a new doctor!

Same here as my doctor was very supportive, like others have said the problem is the uneducated listening to the un knowledgeable.

 

[t2ak]

you seem perfectly sane btw.

Sent using these stoopid hooves..

 

[vjc0628]

I know for myself that I do not cough as much. I feel better and have more energy but,
my doctor and she says, "your e-cig is as bad as the real thing" and when I told her that because of it I was down to 3 "real" cigarettes per day she says "three per day may as well be thirty.

I guess next there going to say the reason were getting such colder weather around the world
is due to global warming

 

[Hypatia]

I know for myself that I do not cough as much. I feel better and have more energy but,
my doctor and she says, "your e-cig is as bad as the real thing" and when I told her that because of it I was down to 3 "real" cigarettes per day she says "three per day may as well be thirty.

I guess next there going to say the reason were getting such colder weather around the world
is due to global warming

Lol, Stupid Dr.:"Hmm, coughing less? That's not right. Must mean your body is not expelling the toxins efficiently. We need to bleed you. Nurse, bring me the leeches!"