I'm on the fence with e-cigs and need your input

[vr9vr]

Hello,
I smoke cigarettes, and I would really like to make the switch to e-cigs. I've had a smokeless image volt kit, as well as the njoy, apollo, and blu disposables. I've tried nicotine strengths from .05mg-3.0 mg. I've tried 100%vg as well as pg/vg mixes. The fact remains that turns me off from these e cigs is without exception, every time after taking 2-3 hits off of one, I get an unpleasant buzzed feeling.
I would think it must be from the amount of nicotine intake...Anyway I wanted to have some discussion about this because I haven't really seen people talking about it. I've had other people try them and have felt the same effects. I would describe it almost as a mildly depressing/detached feeling, almost reminiscent of what you would feel after taking nighttime cold medicine.

Anyway, I wanted to see if there was any e-cig that didn't produce this effect, because I enjoy the 'throat hit' of them and wouldn't mind switching if it weren't for this....

 

[heroinesick]

That would mean you're using too much nicotine. What nicotine level have you been vaping at?

I would definitely recommend getting an ego kit, and then order some juice from a vendor. Look at your previous kits, find out much nicotine was in there, and maybe go a step lower. For example: If the kits had 24 mg of nicotine, try 18. If that is still make you feel buzzed and detached, try 12. If that's not ENOUGH, leaving you wanting to vape constantly, jittery and stressed out, you might need to mix 18 mg and 12 mg to get 15 mg.

Unfortunately, sometimes it can be a trial and error process to make it work for you. But, don't give up! You CAN make this work if you like!

 

[DaveP]

24mg is the accepted strength for full flavor smokers. 18mg is generally what light and ultra light smokers seem to gravitate towards. If the juice is too strong for you, you can order something in half strength with the same flavor and quantity and mix them together to prevent having to throw away one that is too strong. Just add the nic strengths and divide by 2 for equal quantities of juice. That's assuming you like the taste of the juice you are using.

Lots of us have to experiment to find the right nic strength to replace our tobacco addiction. If vaping less frequently lessens the dizziness, it's the nic level.

 

[StrangeShay]

I smoked a bit over a pack a day of Camel Menthol and 24mg was too high for me, I ended up at 18mg, enough to handle the need and not so much that I got head buzzes or head aches.

 

[vr9vr]

As stated previously, I have tried several different strengths get the same effects from .05 nicotine. I don't see how an ego kit would make any difference, isn't the reason for getting one of those just a longer battery life? I got this smokeless image kit in the mail with .05 nicotine and as usual got this weird feeling after hitting it a few times and sent it back immediately. I've smoked cigarettes for years and it's not like I'm taking some abnormally large draws off of these things...I'm also drinking a lot of water.

 

[BentWookie]

As stated previously, I have tried several different strengths get the same effects from .05 nicotine. I don't see how an ego kit would make any difference, isn't the reason for getting one of those just a longer battery life? I got this smokeless image kit in the mail with .05 nicotine and as usual got this weird feeling after hitting it a few times and sent it back immediately. I've smoked cigarettes for years and it's not like I'm taking some abnormally large draws off of these things...I'm also drinking a lot of water.

Sorry but could you please clarify what the .05 nicotine is? Typically when referring to eliquids the nic levels are referred to the number of milligrams per milliliter of liquid. Most people start off with 24 or 18mg liquid and drop down with typically the lowest level available at 6mg or 0 mg per milliliter.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

How much were you smoking per day and what brand?

 

[Kexessa]

I use "medium" strength cartomizers (right term?) and in the store at check out I saw my brand and flavored cartomizers.

I picked up cherry on a whim, and whoa did it give me an unpleasant feeling. A little nausea, head buzz, head rush, light headed. I looked at the little box and it was "high" strength as far as nicotine goes.

I had definitely overdone it on the nicotine.

Once the feeling went away, I went back to my regular e-cig and was fine.

Try experimenting with different nicotine levels in the cartomizer? atomizer? and see if you can find the strength and level that make you not want to smoke traditional cigarettes, but don't make you feel strange from smoking the ecig.

 

[wv2win]

Hello,
I smoke cigarettes, and I would really like to make the switch to e-cigs. I've had a smokeless image volt kit, as well as the njoy, apollo, and blu disposables. I've tried nicotine strengths from .05mg-3.0 mg. I've tried 100%vg as well as pg/vg mixes. The fact remains that turns me off from these e cigs is without exception, every time after taking 2-3 hits off of one, I get an unpleasant buzzed feeling.
I would think it must be from the amount of nicotine intake...Anyway I wanted to have some discussion about this because I haven't really seen people talking about it. I've had other people try them and have felt the same effects. I would describe it almost as a mildly depressing/detached feeling, almost reminiscent of what you would feel after taking nighttime cold medicine.

Anyway, I wanted to see if there was any e-cig that didn't produce this effect, because I enjoy the 'throat hit' of them and wouldn't mind switching if it weren't for this....

I have no idea from your post what nicotine level you are using. The accepted measurement terms used in vaping is for example: 12mg, 16mg, 18mg, 24mg, etc.

If the majority of vapers had the same so-called "depressing/detached" feeling you described, then there would not be millions of people vaping. I can say that the personal vaporizers (PV) that you are using are some of the poorest performers on the market, other than the volt. But even they should not be causing the effects you described. If you have actually quit smoking, some of the effects you are describing could easily be the withdrawl side-effects of not smoking.

 

[vr9vr]

Sorry my bad, when I say .05 it was actually 6mg which to my understanding is around the lowest it gets. To clarify then I've tried from 6mg-30mg. I smoke 10-15 parliament lights a day.

 

[Kexessa]

I can say that the personal vaporizers (PV) that you are using are some of the poorest performers on the market.

Really? I tried NJOY and thought they were horrible. I do buy the Blu disposables and I like them. What does poor performance mean? You mean in sales, or in how they work or in how they are perceived by the vaping community? Are they dangerous? My Dad has this notion that e-cigs will blow up in your face. But I haven't read anything about that here, yet.

If there is something wrong with Blu I'd like to know your opinion please.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

.05 mg = 5 mg
3.0 mg = 30 mg

Sorry my bad, when I say .05 it was actually 6mg which to my understanding is around the lowest it gets. I smoke 10-15 parliament lights a day.

You should be vaping either 8 mg or at the very most 12 mg nicotine. Also realize some are sensitive to certain flavors. You could try some non flavored 8 mg juice. Do you have allergies?

 

[vr9vr]

.05 mg = 5 mg
3.0 mg = 30 mg


You should be vaping either 8 mg or at the very most 12 mg nicotine. Also realize some are sensitive to certain flavors. You could try some non flavored 8 mg juice. Do you have allergies?

no allergies, i've also tried several different flavors....

 

[wv2win]

Sorry my bad, when I say .05 it was actually 6mg which to my understanding is around the lowest it gets. To clarify then I've tried from 6mg-30mg. I smoke 10-15 parliament lights a day.

I'm wondering....you joined ECF seven months ago and this is your first post. You did not include your location in your profile which would be helpful in steering you towards a local shop that we know from experience provides good service and advice. And if you had been reading ECF even a little bit in the last 7 months, I am surprised you were not familar with the accepted terms for describing the strength of eliquid. Something seems a bit off to me. This won't be the first time I've been wrong, however. Hope you figure it out.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

no allergies, i've also tried several different flavors....

In the past 12? months there has a been a HUGE move towards organic juices because many are discovering they are sensitive to certain ingredients. As for being sensitive to PG or VG the Blu is 100% VG and the other brands are a mix of PG+ VG. Also be very careful in regards to only inhaling and not "swallowing" the vapor.

 

[BostonVape]

the nicotine levels always threw me off a bit..

i smoked a pack/day sometimes more of Marlboro lights.. yet I needed to start at 24mg nic when I started vaping..

24mg = marlboro reds.. which were WAY too harsh for me.. yet the 24mg was perfect

now i'm down to 18mg.. and just ordered some 12mg juices to use in the next month or so when I cut back again.. so it all varies to your body..

get a few different nic levels and figure out which one works for you

 

[KraKsX]

Try a different juice vendor. Click the forum supplies list here, and try from one of them.

Try juice NOT PRE-FILLED in cartos - fill it your self

I'd try 12mg and a 0mg (so u can keep mixing to any between those)

There is a chance that what you got from a company isn't the same nic listed on the package

Try a clearo? You might not like the filler in cartos

 

[Dougiestyle]

Your measurements were actual percentage of nicotine 30mg/mL = 3%. Now that we got that straight...

Parliament lights are like sucking air through a straw. I remember bumming one or two from a buddy, years ago. Aren't those the ones with the holes in the paper around the filter? Regardless, I'd have to say, due to your cigarette preference, that your "addiction" is moreso psychological than chemical. Low (6mg/.06%) nicotine may be too high for you. Maybe give 0nic a shot. The throat hit can be had with menthol, alcohol or some other flavors. A lot of vapers have weaned off their nic and still happily vape. You can too. Heck, you could enjoy all the flavors with no worry of accidental OD. Seems like a win.

If I go higher than 20mg/mL I can sense a buzz. Sometimes, using my standard 20mg/mL I get a slight buzz. It doesn't jeopardize my cognitive reasoning, and I like to get a buzz sometimes when I'm off the clock, so it's acceptable to me. I remember the first time I sampled an ecig and felt that buzz. I kinda enjoyed it.

 

[mkbilbo]

Sorry my bad, when I say .05 it was actually 6mg which to my understanding is around the lowest it gets. To clarify then I've tried from 6mg-30mg. I smoke 10-15 parliament lights a day.

Actually, there is also 0mg liquid. That is, no nicotine. You could try that to see if it's something about the nicotine?

I would describe it almost as a mildly depressing/detached feeling, almost reminiscent of what you would feel after taking nighttime cold medicine.

While I admit I haven't been around all that long, that's new to me. And this site is very active with over 17,000 active members (!). I would think if such an effect were common, you'd find it being talked about around here.

Parliament Lights are said to be around 0.7 mg of nicotine per cig (at least as listed here and a few other places). Roughly half a "full flavor" and a bit lower than the average light it seems. And 10 to 15 is fairly low as smoking goes. Maybe even 6mg is too much nicotine?

I believe I've seen lower than 6mg available but can't remember where. Or you could get 6mg and mix with a 0mg to lower the nicotine yourself. The only other thing I can think of is the way you may be inhaling. It's not the same as with regular cigs. And I have to wonder if you're trying to inhale like a regular cig. I did at first and it was not pleasant (me, I tried coughing up a lung ).

Read this article and see if it applies: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/337019-inhalation-technique-ecig-vs-cigarette.html.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

You could try ordering a sampler pack from:
Organically Flavored E-liquid | Virgin Vapor | Electronic Cigarette Organic e-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes
or
buy some PG and VG from walmart or the pharmacy, mix them up and vape. If no issues then it's either the flavorings or you need a lower mg.