I'm still confused on carto types

[roxics]

What are cool carts and premium carts? Whats the difference why would you want one over the other?

How do they compare to low resistance cartos and where do you get LR cartos inexpensively? Is there a place you can find them blank in a variety of colors for $1 or $1.25 a carto?

Why would anyone want anything but LR cartos?
My assumption is that LR cartos drag a lot easier. Am I right?

 

[NewLou]

I can respond to some of your questions (from my point of view, of course), but not all.

Premium carts (what V4L now calls Wow cartos) are the lower resistance-type carto. They have a warmer vapor, and depending on your vaping style, sometimes the cartos can get hot (I have burned my lip a little, when I was a new vaper.) Coolcarts are the higher resistance ones, and hold a little more juice. Some find the vaper to be cooler, and they don't burn out so fast at higher volt vaping (such as using a PT.)

I think of premium carts as sort of the "regular", or "older school" carts, and there are many folks who have been vaping a long time who prefer those. (Just as there are lots of folks who really like low resistance ones.)

I have only used the V4L ones, but I did not notice much (if any) difference in the draw between the two kinds. Some people think that the throat hit is stronger on the premium carts, too. Again, I can't say I have noticed a difference.

You might find this thread interesting: Premiums vs. Cool Carts, although they are just discussing V4L products. I do know that the Turbos (from Vapor9?) and the Gold Label Deluxe cartomizers (from CigEasy) are equivalent to coolcarts, so I am assuming that the other cartos they sell are the premium/regular/lower resistance type ones. Bloog is going to be introducing some innovations in cartos, so you might want to check them out, too.

From what you have said, it sounds like you are a "Premium" kind of guy.

I Hope this was helpful. I wish all vendors would list the same information, so it would be easier to choose...if everyone listed ohms, then we would quickly learn what works best for our preferences, and be able to order without doing a ton of research!

 

[roxics]

Ok so according to what you're saying the new cartos are the high resistance cartos (aka cool carts, turbos etc).
See what confused me is that there seems to be a lot of hype in the 510 world about the new low resistance cartomizers and atomizers. So I assumed that the same was true for the 808. But apparently according to what you're saying it's reversed.

That said apparently I've been vaping off low resistance cartos from the very beginning. As has everyone who has been using an 808.

That's a little disappointing. here I was hoping we had new low resistance cartos that had an easier drag to them and more vapor/flavor.

 

[NewLou]

This is where things get over my head. There may be lower resistance cartomizers out there that I am not aware of...I am still learning about this myself, so please do some more research!

One thing that does occur to me, though, is that you have to remember that KR808s are true 3.7 volt devices, while 510s are 3.2 at the most. So you are already getting more "oomph" on a KR808. I was shocked to try a toke off of a 510, and found it to be wimpy. However, some juices are better with flavor on those devices. There are also people who like to use atties with an adapter on their KR808s, and you can do this to try a LR attie on your KR808.

You might want to do some searches using Low resistance and Kr808. Bottom line: don't give up, your vaping nirvana is out there!

 

[roxics]

Thanks. Actually a couple of days ago I ordered an 808 batt to 510 atty adapter along with a joye atty and metal drip tip. In fact it should be in my mailbox later today. I'm eager to see what the hype is with the 510 atty and dripping. My girlfriend also ordered a 510 kit with 510 cartomizers that should arrive today. So we'll both get to try out a stock 510.

 

[NewLou]

I hope you will report back here what you think, both of the dripping with 510 on the 808, as well as the whole 510 set-up!

I recently tried the dripping with an adapter, and hated it! I had better luck with a 901 atty (no adapter needed). I have no idea why my experience dripping with a 510 was so unsuccessful, yet was fine with the 901. I got a burnt taste going on the 510, and it tasted burnt after that, even when I had enough juice in it.

I hope to start mixing DIY juice soon, so I wanted to be able to just sample a juice, without devoting a whole carto to it. I think the 901 will work great for this. (Thanks for the atty, @MSmusicstudios!)

 

[Natalia]

I wish all vendors would list the same information, so it would be easier to choose...if everyone listed ohms, then we would quickly learn what works best for our preferences, and be able to order without doing a ton of research!

I couldn't agree with you more. I can't understand why vendors don't want list the ohms!

 

[roxics]

Well my girlfriend got her 510 kit from altsmoke yesterday and I got my 510 atty, adapter and drip tip.

I can't drip. For whatever reason it just isn't working for me. I'll drip two or three drops onto the 510 atty through the drip tip and when I push the power button on my 808 battery I'll get vapor coming out, not much but some. But when I go to take a puff I get nothing. Just a gurgling sound, some liquid in my mouth and no vapor. It's very strange. I've also gotten a couple of popping sounds.
But so far the dripping method is completely unsuccessful for me. I don't know what I could possibly be doing wrong.

That said, the drip tip itself is nice, it's chrome steel and I've discovered that it also fits on the end of 808 cartos. It looks nice, especially with my chrome battery. It goes chrome, carto color and then chrome again at the tip. Pretty classy.

I did try my girlfriends 510 and her 510 cartos on my 808 battery with the same adapter. The cartos work great with the adapter. In fact I kind of like the 510 cartos better than the 808 cartos. They seem to have an easier drag on them. Basically what I was looking for. The same is true when they are on her 510 batteries. For some reason she ended up with a 510 kit that has extended batteries. They are nearly as long as my XL battery for the 808. I was a little worried she wasn't going to like the short battery life on the 510 but I guess I don't have to worry anymore.

I'm kind of torn right now. I was impressed enough with her 510 kit that I'm considering switching myself. The cartos gave me very similar throat hit, but more vapor, flavor and an easier drag. Now that I have an adapter I think I'll buy some 510 cartos next for myself, blank of course and see how it goes. If I like them enough I'll probably pick up an eGo kit and transition myself out of the 808 line.

But I wish I could figure out the atomizer and dripping issues I'm having. I was pretty disappointed it wasn't working as I had hope as seems to be the case with everyone else. Like you NewLou, my goal was to start mixing my own liquid and the drip tip would have been a great way to test. Not to mention I keep hearing the the 510 atty is one of the best way to get the most accurate flavor. So I have to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

 

[NewLou]

I had a different problem with the 510 atty: I got a burnt taste. YUK! The 901 atty (which doesn't need an adapter) has been fine, but I have to admit, I haven't used it much, yet.

It's nice that your gf has the 510, so you can try all sorts of combos of batt/carto/atty/juice. I tend to forget that some juices really do best on the 510 or 901, and get burnt at higher volts. This is why I really want to get a variable volt pv at some point. Sounds like there will be more and more selection available on VV devices, and more innovations coming soon! (Since I don't have the $$ right now for a mod, I keep telling myself that if I just wait a few months, there will be even BETTER options out there...I have serious "mod-envy", though!

You might want to look at MistressNomad's videos for newbies (stickied at the top of the New Members' forum), and also her blog. She started out with 808, and still likes it a lot, but has branched out to include dripping, etc. She's really good at explaining things simply, and instilling confidence!

 

[roxics]

Just a quick update. I got dripping down now. I didn't have the adapter tightened enough and I was flooding the atomizer. Now that I've got it down it's great! Nice consistent vaping experience. Very happy. This will be my preferred method while sitting at a desk or anywhere I can easily reach for a bottle.

 

[MichelleDen]

Rule of thumb on ohms: low ohms= better for TH. high ohm: better for flavour. I've been told

The vendors should really not create all these silly names for their stuff... Makes it impossible to know what your'e getting

My new cartos from LF are kanger. 'They have soft caps, go further down the carto, so no stupid middle ring that traps juice on top of it..
Also no wire thingy on the tube in the middle.. They take 30 drops of juice...have more filler. They are great!

The first kanger ones i got, were ok, but hardcaps, and less filler inside. had a wire on the tube inside.. So if I order from whatever vendor I dont know what i'm getting... Are all softcapcartos like these ones? And does Kanger now make both soft and hard? or are the soft cap/no wire an upgrade?
Got some from HeavenG... they are crap IMO. Hard caps, filler only goes half up the carto.. leaking..and don't know what specific kind they were, so don't know how to avoid them in the future.

 

[Xanax]

Haven't read all of the posts but to answer your question "why would anyone want anything but LR cartos"
Well, LR's have a tendency to taste burnt and "they have a shorter lifespan." (as people say, which I have found to be untrue) But if and when you get a good batch you won't want anything but LR's heh. Also you cannot run an LR on higher voltage devices. They will die

 

[taylormomto6]

I just wanted to say, I bought some LR cartos from Litecigusa and they are amazing. Easy drag, tons of vapor, flavor is good & prices are great. They don't have the crazy names, just called low resistance.

Cindy T

 

[MichelleDen]

but see then you still don't know squat about what kinds they are... or if you order same place again, they too will be the same... So its useless.. Cus If I go there and order some. Maybe I'll get some from another batch they ordered at another time.... its hopeless. Unless vendors call them exactly what the manufacturers do, and state witch manufacturer. AND inform custumers when they get some in that are different.
Have you opened them up to see what they are like inside?

 

[MichelleDen]

Is ther really noone that can enlighten me on all the different 808 carto types.? Do you all just use whatever you get, and not think about it..? I do not want to buy any more leaky crap ones...