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I would like to know as well if the Bloog Maxxfussion cartos and LR. However, there are not any savings even at larger quantities.
Maybe you are referring to something else, but if I did the math correctly (see below), you do save money buying larger quantities of Bloog's MaxxFusion cartomizers.
$9.99 for 5 Blank cartomizers ( 9.99/5 = $2.00 per cartomizer)
$39.99 for 25 Blank cartomizers (39.99/25 = $1.60 per cartomizer)
$74.99 for 50 Blank cartomizers (74.99/50 = $1.50 per cartomizer)
10.99 for 5 Pre-filled cartomizers (10.99/5 - $2.20 per cartomizer)
49.99 for 25 Pre-filled cartomizers (49.99/25 - $2.00 per cartomizer)
94.99 for 50 Pre-filled cartomizers (94.99/50 - $1.90 per cartomizer)
V4L sells the 5 pack for $9:00 however also has constant 10-20% coupon codes so... you are for the most part correct.
Hi, Trich!
No, the MXF cartos are not low resistance. They have a more efficient design, so they get the same vapor production as LR, but without consuming the liquid as fast as LR does, so they still get a full 250-300 puffs, instead of around 150 like a LR carto.
MaxxFusion cartos are about 3.0-3.2 ohm. By that measure, they are more like the Coolcarts than the Premiums (and WowVapor is just a PRemium with special liquid). But trust me, once you try it, you'll see it really is more like the WowVapor than the Coolcarts.
No, the MXF cartos are not low resistance. They have a more efficient design, so they get the same vapor production as LR, but without consuming the liquid as fast as LR does, so they still get a full 250-300 puffs, instead of around 150 like a LR carto.
MaxxFusion cartos are about 3.0-3.2 ohm. By that measure, they are more like the Coolcarts than the Premiums (and WowVapor is just a PRemium with special liquid). But trust me, once you try it, you'll see it really is more like the WowVapor than the Coolcarts.
Hi all, Just got some samples today and hope to have reviews done tomorrow night. I did break out my trusty multimeter and am getting 2.6 ohm across the three I've tested. I get 3.4 off all V4L cartos and 3.0 on the CE2R4s. I really really really like the cap design. Perfect for dripping! look for the vids tomorrow. The Lone Fogger
Loner, Like I said in the PM, I'm very surprised by your multi-meter relults. All the ones I tested came out between 3.0 and 3.2. They test the resistance (and the operating temperature) on all cartos during assembly and reject any that aren't in the proper range. And Katya also checked hers, and they were in the proper range.
I'm also surprised at your V4L measurement. That would be a little bit high even for coolcarts, which should be 3ohm, and way too high for their premiums/wowvapor, which should be around 2.0.
Could you retest a few more maybe?
I'm also surprised at your V4L measurement. That would be a little bit high even for coolcarts, which should be 3ohm, and way too high for their premiums/wowvapor, which should be around 2.0.
Could you retest a few more maybe?
Ehem, I tested them "properly" while getting ready for my review. I had one that measured 3.1Ω, and some that were as low as 2.3Ω. I actually took the time to test them accurately and to subtract the resistance of my leads--0.3Ω. [I was wodering why that one particular carto worked so well on my (3.2v) eGo...
]The greatest surprise to me is that they all work great! At any wattage, really. I've been testing them on everything from 4.0 to 3.2v and it's all good.
Leaford, don't let them reject the lower resistance ones. They are golden!
I also confirm Loner's measurements of the premium (as low as 2.0Ω) and CC cartos (as high as 3.4Ω).
Well, I am just going to have a word or two with a few people before our next order, and monitor that particular testing station more closely when our next batch is being made. I appreciate that you're still happy with the performance, and lower resistance would just boost performance anyway, but I am going for consistency as well as high performance, and don't want to sacrifice on the number of puffs per carto.
But this right here is why I've always loved this forum! This is high quality feedback, not that how-much-do-you-like-it-on-a-scale-of-1-to-5 crap from marketing surveys. 
But this right here is why I've always loved this forum! This is high quality feedback, not that how-much-do-you-like-it-on-a-scale-of-1-to-5 crap from marketing surveys.
You know, I think I have an idea what's going on here.
Katya, you mentioned subtracting the resistance of the leads. I have never done that. I'm not exactly a multimeter pro, and assumed the darn thing would be calibrated to take that into account. I mean seriously, why isn't it??
I got my info about the ohms from the engineer when he was showing me the testing station, so he may not have meant that the actual resistance was between 3.0 and 3.2, just that the multimeter reading (before subtracting the resistance of the leads) should be between 3.0 and 3.2. It might be a misunderstanding.
I'll have to check tomorrow, and verify if I'm correct. What are your raw, unadjusted readings?
Katya, you mentioned subtracting the resistance of the leads. I have never done that. I'm not exactly a multimeter pro, and assumed the darn thing would be calibrated to take that into account. I mean seriously, why isn't it??
I got my info about the ohms from the engineer when he was showing me the testing station, so he may not have meant that the actual resistance was between 3.0 and 3.2, just that the multimeter reading (before subtracting the resistance of the leads) should be between 3.0 and 3.2. It might be a misunderstanding.
I'll have to check tomorrow, and verify if I'm correct. What are your raw, unadjusted readings?
At this point I'm going to have to say PLEASE don't have them increase the resistance on the next batch... at least not until the community has had a chance to more thoroughly test them and we've fully thought through the implications... cause right now, I'm really loving the performance of these cartos, and would hate to see the next batch come out with weaker performance just for the sake of meeting an arbitrary goal of 3ohms.
Of course, if it turns out that at their current resistance, they're getting too hot and burning, then maybe we'd be willing to sacrifice some performance.... but so far that doesn't seem to be happening. I reserve the right to change my mind later, but at the moment my thoughts are that they're excellent as they are, and you shouldn't change a thing.
I took the time to thouroughly test all of my Bloog cartomizers and my raw readings are pretty consistent: 2.7-2.6Ω. My leads meter out at 0.1 or 0.2Ω. I had a couple of outliers (as low as 2.3Ω and as high as 2.9Ω).
I am fairly confident that those readings are accurate. I also tested several other cartomizers I have in my stash and they confirm the accuracy of my multimeter; the 3.0Ω Boge cartos read 2.9-3.2Ω; the SmokeStik cartos--3.5-3.6Ω; 3.0Ω EC2 cartos--3.1-3.3Ω, Turbos-3.2Ω (raw readings).
I like my Bloog cartos a lot but they are not 3.1-3.2Ω cartos. Remember that some multimeters have as much as 0.5-0.6Ω internal resistance. If that's the case with the multimeters used at the factory, that would explain the discrepancy.
The power (heat) generated by a PV and a cartomizer equals voltage squared divided by resistance. Most kr8 batteries can reach about 4.2v freshly off the charger (that voltage sags quickly, however, they are all rated at 3.7v). If one puts a 2.1Ω carto on a 4.2v battery (worst case scenario), we're reaching 8.4 Watts. Now that's very hot, indeed. A 2.7Ω carto on the same battery will give us 6.5 Watts. Still high, IMO. If we use a 3.2Ω carto on a 3.7v battery (best case scenario); we're looking at 4.3 Watts, which is where we really want to be.
I'm going to do some autopsies later and report my findings.
For now, Happy Holidays!
Well, noone who speaks english is at the factory today. The chief engineer only speaks anough english to invite me out to karaoke, "Daniel, Daniel, I go KTV! You Come? Yes? You come, you come!" The general manager knows just enough english to THINK he knows what you're saying, but he always answers a totally different question than whatever I am asking. And my usual assistant is off to her home village to show off her new fiancee. (Believe me, if her fiancee wasn't one of my best friends here, I would be SOOOO trying to steal her! She's one of the nicest, kindest, most generous people I have ever met! And beautiful to boot.)
So, I'll have to verify next week, but I do think the discrepancy is the lead's resistance. And don't worry Katya, I'm not hung up on getting 3.0 exactly, I just want to be sure it is as consistent as my testing and the factory's testing led me to believe. A couple of outliers is to be expected. As long as they aren't ALL all over the map.
And my usual assistant is off to her home village to show off her new fiancee. (Believe me, if her fiancee wasn't one of my best friends here, I would be SOOOO trying to steal her! She's one of the nicest, kindest, most generous people I have ever met! And beautiful to boot.)So, I'll have to verify next week, but I do think the discrepancy is the lead's resistance. And don't worry Katya, I'm not hung up on getting 3.0 exactly, I just want to be sure it is as consistent as my testing and the factory's testing led me to believe. A couple of outliers is to be expected. As long as they aren't ALL all over the map.
If premium/wowvapor cartos are 2.0 ohms wouldn't that make them low resistance?
Aren't we warned not to use LR 1.5/2.0 ohm attys and cartos on batteries with less than 450 mAh?
Aren't we warned not to use LR 1.5/2.0 ohm attys and cartos on batteries with less than 450 mAh?
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Hi MM,
Yes, that's right. They were the very first LR cartomizers on the market. AFAIK, anyway.
Um... No? At least I've never heard anything like that, and no offense, but it doesn't make much sense. mAh are basicaly a measure of how long the charge will last. More mAh, more puffs. Lower mAh, fewer puffs.
I think you're thinking about voltage. Low resistance cartomizers with a high voltage battery mod can make the carto overheat and burn, so many people recommend not using them with LR cartos.
Does that sound right to you?
LOL, no worries Leaford, check the time on my post (3:07am EST). I'm right there with you ...
Back on topic, I guess I would be worried that the batteries might overheat and vent their electrolytes. And I'm pretty sure that might put a damper on a relaxing vape break.
Does anyone know what the various e-cig batteries (510, 808, etc) max discharge rates are?
Might be helpful ...
Back on topic, I guess I would be worried that the batteries might overheat and vent their electrolytes. And I'm pretty sure that might put a damper on a relaxing vape break.
Does anyone know what the various e-cig batteries (510, 808, etc) max discharge rates are?
Might be helpful ...
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There have been many discussions on the subject. Here's one exchange.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...510-stock-180mah-batteries-5.html#post1527389
You may want to search the forum for more.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...510-stock-180mah-batteries-5.html#post1527389
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