I'm Watching the Movie 'The Bible'

[Saintscruiser]

There are two parts to this post. Be sure to read it all before you post.

1) We know that Sarah didn't believe that she would have ever have a child.....even when Abraham told her what God had said. She was 90 years old, her body was past the age of child bearing. Since it wasn't happening on Sarah's timetable, she got the bright idea of getting Abraham to have intercourse with Hagar, her slave. Now Abraham could have refused, but he didn't. No offense, guys, but I wonder how much he protested. But, Sarah and Abraham continued to have intercourse, because without that, she couldn't have gotten pregnant. She did not have an immaculate conception. So we have the conflict today between Arabs and the Jews. Thanks a lot, Sarah!! But there are Arabs and Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Saviour! Praise be to God!

2) For those who have children, and those who haven't, really, could you have enough faith to sacrifice your son to God? I know I couldn't. I consider myself to be a person of faith, but I just don't know about doing that, especially since I have only one child.....a son. Now Abraham knew that God promised he would have many descendents, so he trusted God, even though his heart was breaking.

What say you???

 

[blondeambition3]

There are two parts to this post. Be sure to read it all before you post.

1) We know that Sarah didn't believe that she would have ever have a child.....even when Abraham told her what God had said. She was 90 years old, her body was past the age of child bearing. Since it wasn't happening on Sarah's timetable, she got the bright idea of getting Abraham to have intercourse with Hagar, her slave. Now Abraham could have refused, but he didn't. No offense, guys, but I wonder how much he protested. But, Sarah and Abraham continued to have intercourse, because without that, she couldn't have gotten pregnant. She did not have an immaculate conception. So we have the conflict today between Arabs and the Jews. Thanks a lot, Sarah!! But there are Arabs and Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Saviour! Praise be to God!

2) For those who have children, and those who haven't, really, could you have enough faith to sacrifice your son to God? I know I couldn't. I consider myself to be a person of faith, but I just don't know about doing that, especially since I have only one child.....a son. Now Abraham knew that God promised he would have many descendents, so he trusted God, even though his heart was breaking.

What say you???

In all honesty, I'd like to THINK I could have done what Abraham did.... but in reality... I think not....

 

[mightymen]

In all honesty, I'd like to THINK I could have done what Abraham did.... but in reality... I think not....

SURE you could you have faith don't you!


You have faith enough to believe that God provided His son in your place and God FORGAVE all your sins, did Abraham do that! - I don't think so?

 

[blondeambition3]

SURE you could you have faith don't you!


You have faith enough to believe that God provided His son in your place and God FORGAVE all your sins, did Abraham do that! - I don't think so?

For what said the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness.

John 6:29
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one He has sent."

I DO believe that God provided His Son in my place and forgave me all my Sins!

 

[Saintscruiser]

SURE you could you have faith don't you!


You have faith enough to believe that God provided His son in your place and God FORGAVE all your sins, did Abraham do that! - I don't think so?

One other point, Abraham also knew God's promise to make him the father of a mighty nation numbering the stars, wasn't it? Abraham believed God more than his own heartbreak. But as I said before, I am glad that I don't live under the law with sacrifice of animals, much less my son. I can't kill unless it's in self defense and then that's not to say it wouldn't affect me. But touch my family and I turn into Jack Bauer. (The premeire of 24 is on....that's where I came up with that! )

 

[mightymen]

I looked in my Bible concordance under "Faith" there are 34 references all in the New Testaments, none in Old Testaments and yet I know Faith comes from God.

Romans 12:3 "God has dealt to each one a measure of faith."

In the New testament we see man using his faith and no mentioning of God using His faith.


In the Old testament I see God using His faith and no mentioning of man using his."

Genesis 1:3 "God said let there be light" I see in the Bible that God was using his Faith.

I can see God using His Faith in the Old Testament Isaiah 49:9 "That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth"

Showing how powerful faith is and where it comes from.

How powerful is faith, it all depends on how I use it, it was powerful enough to bring me to God and strong enough for my eyes to be open and my ears to hear the GOODNEWS for without faith it is impossible to please God.

Romans 1:17 "God is revealed from faith"

Matthew 17:20 "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

 

[Saintscruiser]

MM, you knew I would have to look it up myself! I found one 'faith' in the Old Testament (all the rest were faithful), but I believe, and could be wrong, that this verse means in the future. What do you see? The same thing?

Habakkuk 2:1-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 I will stand my watch
And set myself on the rampart,
And watch to see what He will say to me,
And what I will answer when I am corrected.
The Just Live by Faith

2 Then the Lord answered me and said:

“Write the vision
And make it plain on tablets,
That he may run who reads it.
3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time;
But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie.
Though it tarries, wait for it;
Because it will surely come,
It will not tarry.
4 “Behold the proud,
His soul is not upright in him;
But the just shall live by his faith.

 

[mightymen]

MM, you knew I would have to look it up myself! I found one 'faith' in the Old Testament (all the rest were faithful), but I believe, and could be wrong, that this verse means in the future. What do you see? The same thing?

Habakkuk 2:1-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 I will stand my watch
And set myself on the rampart,
And watch to see what He will say to me,
And what I will answer when I am corrected.
The Just Live by Faith

2 Then the Lord answered me and said:

“Write the vision
And make it plain on tablets,
That he may run who reads it.
3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time;
But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie.
Though it tarries, wait for it;
Because it will surely come,
It will not tarry.
4 “Behold the proud,
His soul is not upright in him;
But the just shall live by his faith.

Yes your right faith is mentioned in the Old Testament but not as being using by man, was faith available to man during this time?

In these verses man is not using his faith, it's a prophesy for a time to come.

Could it be that you couldn't have both and back then they were under the law, now were under Grace and live by faith.

 

[Saintscruiser]

Yes your right faith is mentioned in the Old Testament but not as being using by man, was faith available to man during this time?

In these verses man is not using his faith, it's a prophesy for a time to come.

Could it be that you couldn't have both and back then they were under the law, now were under Grace and live by faith.

That's what I thought too. A Prophesy for the New Testament time.....future time to come. Belief in the Old Testament under the law was the requirement. Belief AND faith is a whole different ballgame. To become born-again has to be by faith alone. And, how many times do we talk about our beliefs. Both is required in the New Testament, as you can't have faith without belief. Yep, makes sense to me!

 

[blondeambition3]

That's what I thought too. A Prophesy for the New Testament time.....future time to come. Belief in the Old Testament under the law was the requirement. Belief AND faith is a whole different ballgame. To become born-again has to be by faith alone. And, how many times do we talk about our beliefs. Both is required in the New Testament, as you can't have faith without belief. Yep, makes sense to me!

Makes sense to me also, and before now I didn't realize there was a distinction.

 

[mightymen]

The law was given by God and Faith comes from God.

Ephesians Chapter 4 "One Lord, one faith, one baptism"

Romans 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith."

Mark 4:24 "And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given."

If faith comes from God (which it does), what is impossible for those who believe in God.

 

[blondeambition3]

If faith comes from God (which it does), what is impossible for those who believe in God.

For with God nothing shall be impossible -Luke 1:37