In need of some Flavor Chase advice

[Deadrick]

Hello, I've read through these forums time and time again and have decided to make an account. I've been vaping for a while now and jusy realized that the only kinds of wire I have ever used are 22 gauge kanthal and 28 gauge kanthal. I only had about 50 feet of 28 and I've primarily used the 22 or twisted the 28. Now that I'm purchasing a lot better (and more expensive) juice, I'd like to build for better flavor as well as satifying clouds. Any advice as to wire gauges, wire composition, coil diameter, spaced coils vs close wraps, etc would be much obliged. Thank you fellow vapers

 

[RavenZ]

I find the twisted is the best for flavor. I have taken 2 strands of 24g kanthal and 1 22g kanthal twisted all 3 together and the flavor is great. Also have tried 22g twisted kanthal and 26g nichrome did a parallel dual coil build and was getting great clouds & awesome flavor .2ohm

 

[nyiddle]

I'm a fan of big surface area macro coils. Large-ish inner diameter (can't give you an exact size, maybe 1/8ths inch? 3/8ths? I don't even know) with a LOT of wraps. My current build is a dual coil 14-wrap using 26ga and it ohms out to .55. Compared to other micro coil/nano coil builds I've experienced this thing is pretty solid.

I have friends who swear by clapton coils as the most flavorful form, and it kind of makes sense. Juice gets trapped all up in the wire and forms little "pockets" -- I wouldn't be able to explain why it works scientifically, but logically it seems to carry some merit.

 

[sketch804]

I'm a fan of big surface area macro coils. Large-ish inner diameter (can't give you an exact size, maybe 1/8ths inch? 3/8ths? I don't even know) with a LOT of wraps. My current build is a dual coil 14-wrap using 26ga and it ohms out to .55. Compared to other micro coil/nano coil builds I've experienced this thing is pretty solid.

I have friends who swear by clapton coils as the most flavorful form, and it kind of makes sense. Juice gets trapped all up in the wire and forms little "pockets" -- I wouldn't be able to explain why it works scientifically, but logically it seems to carry some merit.

I have heard the same thing about clampton coils but just seems like a lot of work just for a coil. I too am in the same boat as the orignal OP, I never ordered but 2 different gauges and haven't made but so many different types of coils. Flavor though can be brought out other ways also like airflow adjustment, coil placement, wicking material, type of drip tip and others that I am plain forgetting. So don't get stuck on just one part of the flavor equation so to speak. Good luck to you! I will be following this thread.

 

[nkr501]

A lot of people go with a single coil setup for flavor. What RBA are you using?

 

[Darth Omerta]

I have only ever really used 28AWG and for me the biggest flavor comes from 1.58mm ID dual coils running at .6 ohms with the coils raised up just enough for the air to come up from underneath them (side AFC RDA). If you have access to a high wattage device then it might be in your best interest to twist up some 28AWG or build some claptons (they can also be purchased from some vendors). The real key to flavor chasing seems to be large surface area for sure and lower airflow. Controlling the air around the coil is also very important.

 

[LittleBird]

Lots of flavor chasers here, me among them! Welcome to the forum, BTW . My go to build is 26ga 7-8 wrap dual coils - about .58 ohms. Mine are compressed; spaced are hard for me to do well. Also got some tiger wire, which is great for flavor. Not quite as good as a Clapton, but pretty darn good!

 

[sparkky1]

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[dcfluegel]

i just started running a dual clapton build that @Housetek put together for me and the flavor is phenomenal - amazing, dense vapor production and the flavor is exceptional (about a .4ohm build in a dark horse rda)

 

[Housetek]

really any build with a fast ramping core wire and thinner gauge wraps will give you great flavor, By far staple build and Fused claptons have been the best for flavor and density.

Staple is alot harder to do and ramps a bit too quickly, for a nice long draw i go with 26g/36g Kanthal Fused clapton, It traps in the flavor and the juice spirals into the coil.

With what you have twisted 3 strands of 28 and smoothed down with a drill is great, or 24/26g twisted is good also with 2 strands.

Or you could youtube how to make a zipper coil and use your 28 gauge for that also. I was running that for 2 weeks straight single coil. Flavors amazing and ramps up very fast.

For smaller decks i go with 24g n80 claptoned with 36g or 26g kanthal claptoned with 36g.

The key for flavor from my experience is a lot of juice canals in the wire and surface area.

Ribbon is also a great way to get amazing flavor.

Heres a example of juice spiraling threw my fused clapton.

I've been messing around with some Twisted clapton builds with 28g kanthal twisted with 36 also

Hmu if you need any advice or have any questions and welcome to the forums.

 

[AndriaD]

Here's a weird thing. The only sub-ohm coils I build are for my Evic-VT; I use 28ga Ti1. I'm aiming at creating a vape experience much the same as my "tootle puffing" 9w on a 1.7Ω coil,and pretty much, I've achieved it. But the flavor seems muted, compared to the 1.7Ω at 9w. I've vaped them side by side in identical Achilles RDAs, coils wrapped to the same ID and wicked with japanese organic cotton. I can't figure out why the TC vape's flavor would be muted. Any ideas?

Andria

 

[dionysuskiss]

What type of RBA are you using? I like the smaller RDAs for flavor. I have a Hastur with a single coil, 26g, 10wraps on a 2.0 ID, coming to around .9-1.0ohms. Flavor for days.

 

[Deadrick]

A lot of people go with a single coil setup for flavor. What RBA are you using?

I've been using a Zorro RDA lately because I just got it. But my new setup is on the way which will be for flavor. It's a Goblin Mini RTA and IT will be on a Praxis mod. (even though the mod it's on is kind of irrelevant, I said it anyways because I'm excited)

 

[Deadrick]

Coil Building Tutorials – RiPTrippers

I can assure you I've seen them all LOL

 

[Deadrick]

i just started running a dual clapton build that @Housetek put together for me and the flavor is phenomenal - amazing, dense vapor production and the flavor is exceptional (about a .4ohm build in a dark horse rda)

What gauge and composition of wire?

 

[dcfluegel]

i believe it is 1 strand of 28g ni80 around 2 strands of 28g kanthal, but will double check that

 

[Cullin Kin]

I have friends who swear by clapton coils as the most flavorful form, and it kind of makes sense. Juice gets trapped all up in the wire and forms little "pockets" -- I wouldn't be able to explain why it works scientifically, but logically it seems to carry some merit.

For the heck of it, this week I have been experimenting with Claptons. I've done normal Claptons and Fused... I notice no difference in flavor from my normal 10 wrap dual macro's on a 3mm ID. I do notice a big difference in vapor production though because of what you mention here. The juice definitely gets trapped within and you can see the capillary action in motion. The coils themselves do have wicking abilities which is pretty cool.

So, as far as I can see, these crazy wire builds are just a good way to vaporize more juice at a time, but they use more wire, and drain your battery faster. This is purely my opinion, but they had no difference in flavor. I enjoyed building them though, they really play into the hobby aspect of vaping.

I'll just stick with my normal builds. I would recommend at least trying them once though, they are fun.

 

[nyiddle]

For the heck of it, this week I have been experimenting with Claptons. I've done normal Claptons and Fused... I notice no difference in flavor from my normal 10 wrap dual macro's on a 3mm ID. I do notice a big difference in vapor production though because of what you mention here. The juice definitely gets trapped within and you can see the capillary action in motion. The coils themselves do have wicking abilities which is pretty cool.

So, as far as I can see, these crazy wire builds are just a good way to vaporize more juice at a time, but they use more wire, and drain your battery faster. This is purely my opinion, but they had no difference in flavor. I enjoyed building them though, they really play into the hobby aspect of vaping.

I'll just stick with my normal builds. I would recommend at least trying them once though, they are fun.

I had a buddy build me a clapton but it ohm'd out to something crazy low (like .07) so we deemed it a "decorative coil".. I think I still have it on top of an atomizer somewhere in my drawer, it's definitely a really nice clapton. I'm just not comfortable firing it with.. Well, any device really. Maybe I should invest in a parallel box? But meh, I don't really need it. Love the flavor from a tight-ish airflow .5 ohm fat surface area coil. It's the simple things.

 

[Housetek]

What gauge and composition of wire?

28G N80 claptoned with 36G Kanthal

 

[Housetek]

For the heck of it, this week I have been experimenting with Claptons. I've done normal Claptons and Fused... I notice no difference in flavor from my normal 10 wrap dual macro's on a 3mm ID. I do notice a big difference in vapor production though because of what you mention here. The juice definitely gets trapped within and you can see the capillary action in motion. The coils themselves do have wicking abilities which is pretty cool.

So, as far as I can see, these crazy wire builds are just a good way to vaporize more juice at a time, but they use more wire, and drain your battery faster. This is purely my opinion, but they had no difference in flavor. I enjoyed building them though, they really play into the hobby aspect of vaping.

I'll just stick with my normal builds. I would recommend at least trying them once though, they are fun.

to me its about the vapor density, On normal builds i get a nice flavorful inhale, but with a fused clapton that produces dense vapor i get another blast of flavor with the exhale.

its also nice that a coil that has great wicking properties and holds juice well. means i have to re-drip so often and i get better fuller draws with fused claptons.