Ya know I was just thinking about this reading a few noob's problems threads. I really don't know what's wrong with recommending Boge LR cartos to a noob but, evidentally, there is because whenever I do in comes a slew of folks recommending clearos and tanks. It kind of bothers me when I read all the problems people have with them and think that it might just make a noob give up or go back to smoking when they're unsuccessful with them or get some of the bad qc ones out there. They should at least be given a fighting chance to like vaping with the tried and true first. Once they're over the hump and like vaping... then's the time to branch out to other things they want to try... at least they'll know when the problem is hardware and not vaping as a whole. The risks of them not liking vaping with all the fiddle factors, adjusting wicks, modifying them, learning volatages with them, the right juices, on and on are just as great as trying one of the freebie ecigs and being turned off never to give vaping another try. This is exactly what happened to a relative who got a clearo kit and then tried a tank that leaked until I told them to try cartos... give it another chance... they did and vape now. Same goes for setups.
I would tend to agree with you. I think for a brand new vaper, using just a plain old carto is the best bet.
Clearos are so hit and miss, I've tried clearos from all major vendors and manufacturers, they ALL leaked, they ALL gave burnt hits. I can't imagine what kind of impression that would give a new vaper about ecigs if that's all they have tried.
Tanks, I feel, should only be used when the person already has the process of filling a carto down 100% I've heard so many people complain about how carto-tanks suck, only to find out they weren't filling their cartos properly, and letting them burn.
Obviously if you can't fill a carto properly it doesn't mater if you are using that carto by itself, or in a tank, but if you are using a stand-alone carto, and it's burnt, you know exactly what's wrong- you didn't fill it properly. If that carto is inside a tank, new users might think it's some other issue, because they aren't aware of the fact that 100% of carto-tank performance is dictated by the carto. Having a tank is just another step to complicate and confuse newbies.
I was talking to one guy who said he loved cartos, but hated carto-tanks. I figured his tank leaked, or it was a hassle to fill the tank. Nope, he said that carto-tanks don't produce as much vapor and burn all the time compared to cartos. I tried explaining that what he said was impossible, because a carto tank IS a carto, for all intents and purposes. Performance (or lack thereof) is identical to a plain carto. He didn't believe me.
So I insisted he show me how tanks perform badly, he showed me how he setup his tanks. He punched two holes in the carto, put it in the tank, filled the tank up, shook the tank up in the "shake well before opening" sense, and then took a drag of burning carto filler. He said "See! I told you! tanks dont produce much vapor and have a bad burnt taste!" I simply told him, they sure do, when you DON'T PUT ANY JUICE INTO THE CARTO. He continued to argue and say that with a tank you don't have to fill the carto. I told him you did, gave him a vape of my tank, and he was finally convinced.
You know why he was confused? Because people keep referring to clearos as tanks. Tanks use cartos, which need to be pre-filled before being used in a tank. Clearos use a wick+coil head, and can simply be filled up and vaped on. Because new people are always mixing the terminology up, he got confused while doing research, and thought that you can simply fill up and use a tank like you would a clearo.
That is why he thought tanks were poor performers, because other people mislead him with bad info, causing him to make an error while setting the tank up, and was the basis of his low opinon of tanks. Now he likes tanks more than clearos, and understands the difference. This is why I get so picky about terminology, one person erroneously referring to a clearo as a tank caused a chain reaction of negative effects.
That was the last time I tried to help a co-worker start vaping.
Once people master filling cartos, and get tired of having to top-off all the time, then is a good time to get into tanks. I'd avoid clearos all together myself, but some people like them so might as well try 'em at least once.
