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M&M

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Hello all!:unsure:
Its Mike and Mar (hence M&M) and we are completely new and need some wise guidance. After months of searching and researching, haggling, investigating, and reading reviews, we finally just purchased a car. It was a confusing, dizzying, and exhausting experience. Now we are completely intrigued with the prospects of replacing our years-long heavy smoking habits with this relatively new and incredibly interesting vaping alternative. But, like our recent epic car search (which make, model, gas, features, cost, etc), we are now faced with many decisions and questions with many yet unknown answers regarding PVs and vaping. What is the best model for us? Do we need to have a couple of mods, just in case? Should we go with pre-filled juice or fill our own? Where should we get our starter kits? Where should we buy juice? Same place? What flavor should we start with? How potent should the juice be? Should we get an automatic or manual? Will I look like I am smoking a pot-pipe, weed carborator, or portable hookah?

I smoke about 2 packs of menthol light 100s a day and likely a little more on weekends. My wife smokes 2-3 packs a day of regular Ultra Light 100s and she has a tendency to smoke about half of each cigarette, but nearly constantly (except at work).

Only some things I am worried about are: What happens if my battery dies while I am out in the world? If a battery life is relatively short on a given mod, will I be spending my day monitoring and maintaining my newfound "replacement therapy?" Do we need PCCs from the getgo? Should we get pass-throughs right away, as we both tend to work at our computers at home for hours on end? How many backup batteries, atomizers, cartridges do we need from the getgo, if any? Do we need a cartomizer or should we get one with an atomizer and a cartridge? Will I end up spending money hand over fist in search of the perfect model? Has there ever been one person in the history of vaping that has bought one model from the start and stuck with it over the years? (apparently not likely).

I have already spent about 10 of the last 24 hours reading entries from both this forum and Vapers Forum. I have seen a number of great videos and many helpful entries, but after awhile, it has become a morass of information overload.

What does 2 hours of battery life really mean? Is the clock running only when you are taking a drag? How long does two hours of battery life get you if you smoked 2-3 packs a day? How many cartridges will I go through in a day? How many questions will I ramble on with in this initial post?

I want to get as much as I can "right" from the start, so we don't waste time, money, or get turned off by the experience before we even get started. Considering the possible long-term savings, we are not all that concerned about price at this point, but more with quality and experience. We do have some minor concerns about aesthetics, as I don't want to be walking around in public like I am smoking a trombone, but that will likely dissipate.

So far, I think we have determined that the 510 is probably the best way to go to kick off this transition period, but we could be wrong. Now, do I have to get only two (one for wife and self) or should I get two each, so we have backups (referencing others who have suggested that you don't keep inhaling the e-cig constantly but allow a minute or two for the atty to cool). How much juice should be supply ourselves with? I surmise that not one starter kit out there is quite complete after reading one thread. What strength should my wife use (heavy smoker of an ultra light hitting regular analog)? What strength should I use (heavy smoker of a light hitting menthol analog)? WOW!!? Decisions, Decisions, analyze, paralyze. I have been eyeballing NCVape as an initial source for everything. Is there a solid one-stop-shop for everything? I realize that just like analogs, there are different tastes and preferences for all types and nothing here is cookie-cutter, but newbies like us want to be safe and secure in our initial experience (we haven't even taken a single drag from an e-cig yet) so that we don't quit before we get started.

Anyone is welcome to email us outside of the forum with suggestions if promotion of one thing or another violates this forum. After spending a number of hours absorbing all your reviews, info, and experiences, etc. I am completely certain of only two things: 1) we are confused and apprehensive and 2) almost all of you seem to be genuinely interested in advancing others' knowledge and helping the newcomer. You all seem like a great bunch of people and that is quite refreshing. My wife and I thank you all in advance for your kind and thoughtful advice.;)
 
You can get 510 dual EGO kits for $50 now. I say buy two sets of them, those batteries will last the heaviest vaper 6 hours, and several bottles of different juice. You'll figure out the rest along the way I smoked at least 2 PAD and started with an Ego, I wouldn't have made it without the battery life.
 

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+1 for the suggestion of 2 eGo kits. I smoked 2+ packs a day for 33 yrs and would have given up on ecigs if not for the battery life of the eGo. Be sure to get extra atomizers (5-10 for the two of you) and extra juice too of varying flavors. Seems most people go through roughly 3 ml a day.

I started with 18mg nic juice, but found that personally I needed 24mg to keep the nerves at bay. It's really hard to say what strength will work for each of you as it can vary with the individual. I would advise getting juice at different strengths until you see how it goes, but I wouldn't get anything too weak either.
 

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The 510 eGo is actually more compact that it looks and the battery life is very 'freeing' if you plan on using your PV 'out n about'.
I started on the regular 510 (got mine from cignot.com) and was very very happy with it - as I spend more time IN than OUT I got a PT as well which meant I wasnt too concerned about batteries. I have an 510 eGo now though for going out as it just more convenient and batteries dont die after 30 mins. I tend to vape a lot (chain vaping often) - its nice lol - so I can burn a battery on a regular inside 30 mins - even with that kind of use the 510 eGo doesn't go down as fast.
There should be a pic of one somewhere on the foums, but to compare to something in real life Id say the ego (with atomizer attached) is a little higher than a credit card if you stand it on its short end (portrait instead of landscape if you will).
Its about as thick as a duracell AA battery.
Welcome to ECF btw :)
 
You're just not going to get every single answer you're looking for either. If you buy an Ego you know you're not getting ripped off like a lot of people did with junk models. 1/2 the fun to me was/is the learning experience. If you are even semi serious about switching from cigs you'll figure it out.

But it sounds to me like something as small as a cig isn't going to cut it for you guys, like myself. I didn't care about size from get go though, I just wanted off those killers.

Now my Ego is tiny compared to some of my other mods. I take my ego when I vape in public and want to be inconspicuous, it's that small. I can palm it and hide it if I had to, but I'm the guy in the pic.:D Like I'm sure you've done with a cig in the past, just kinda "cup" it, only smoke doesn't give it away!
 

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+1 for the suggestion of 2 eGo kits. I smoked 2+ packs a day for 33 yrs and would have given up on ecigs if not for the battery life of the eGo. Be sure to get extra atomizers (5-10 for the two of you) and extra juice too of varying flavors. Seems most people go through roughly 3 ml a day.

I started with 18mg nic juice, but found that personally I needed 24mg to keep the nerves at bay. It's really hard to say what strength will work for each of you as it can vary with the individual. I would advise getting juice at different strengths until you see how it goes, but I wouldn't get anything too weak either.

The quantity info is much appreciated TWolf. Really don't want our shoes to wear out 100m into a 1500m race.
 

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Another vote for an Ego. There are several suppliers on the suppliers list here , they are reliable. My personal favorite for the Ego is Cignot.com
then cruise on over to tasty vapor, or the backwoods brew thread in the suppliers forum
my personal favorite juices.
There are many juice makers and your tastes may vary, these are just a couple I like that are popular on ecf.
I would say start with 24 mg also. Having some 18 mg or even 12 around would not be a bad idea .
Get LOTs of juice and for 2 people order at least 4 extra attomizers.
They are disposable and tend to suddenly go dead at the most inconvienant moment.
They generally will last a couple weeks , but ya never know..
 

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Yep..if you start with the 510, which is fantastic, you are just gonna upgrade to the ego, or something with a longer battery life anyway. Go ahead and start with the eGo. I went through the buying extra 510 battery stage (9 of them) then gave up. Bought a box mod at Ken's and love it. Got the eGo for out and about "looks" and I now have 4 of them. (gotta have different colors ya know, LOL). Welcome and have fun !
 

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As a fellow newbie myself, I really wouldn't recommend getting vast quantities of any one juice yet. I think this is when a sampler pack comes in most handy. I just got my eGo about three days ago. It came with a sample juice and I bought a 3 mL juice. Fortunately I like the sample juice that came with it, because I loathe the taste of the juice that I bought, and had I been stuck with a 10, 20 or 30 mL bottle based on the quantity I theoretically would need, I can easily envision an end to my foray into vaping. Thank goodness the sample tastes good (LOL although I may have a question for another thread about that!) because it's given me the faith to keep going. I haven't been one of the fortunates that just put aside my cigarettes, but for the last couple of days, I've gone from around 40 to 15, so perhaps once I settle into "my" perfect fluid, I can cut back even further or go all the way.t
 

M&M

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Thanks for the great advice on the dual eGo...all of you. Sold. You had me at...."6+ hours." I was just concerned about toting around something obnoxiously large in public, and it appears that model is not that at all. At home, I probably wouldn't care if it was the size of a vuvuzela horn.

Now, is that manufactured by Joye, Janty, or both? Obviously, I am still confused on products, makes, models, suppliers. I was just on Janty and they have an eGo set running for $80. So, I am guessing that we would be best served to go away from the manufacturer and look elsewhere, because if I am looking at his and hers x 2, I could be running at a base of $320 plus juice, plus atomizers, plus PT, etc. Does the eGo have a PCC available? I didn't see one on the Janty site. You guys are awesome! Thanks!
 

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The answers are very good so far and the big batteries is a definite yes. Going with something that is threaded to the 510 is a great idea too because that leaves you open for a lot of different accessories. Levels of juice and flavors was the hardest part for me when I first started but I solved that by carrying multiple PV each dedicated to different strengths and flavors (still do this). I sometimes feel like a walking hardware store, but it works for me. I was a 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 pack a day smoker plus a pipe.

I usually have on me:
1 Volcano - tiny little thing with a high nic, strong flavored juice used for the quick puffs, just to keep the craving at bay.
1 510 - 5mg vanilla that I chain vape. I use a standard cart with blue foam and top this cart off all day. I have 280mah batteries for this one, actually adapters and DSE801 penstyle batteries.
1 nicostick - I carry a couple of cartomizers for this one, usually a fruit flavor in low nic and some tobacco flavor in medium to high nic.
I also carry a couple of extra batts for the Volcano, an extra 801 batt, an extra 14500 batt for the nicostick, and 3 or 4 3ml bottles of juice. (Hence feeling like a walking hardware store).

This works for me but probably won't for many people. I like a bit of variety and don't think vaping would have worked for me if I had to stick to one device or one flavor.
 

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cignot have a pair kit of ego for $70 shipped Joye eGo - and its a great company they broke my vaping cherry and Ive stuck with them ever since; great customer service.
Juices I get mostly from TV and DIYFS - evryone has their faves though - there are more juice companies around than flavors in the world I think lol
 

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Has there ever been one person in the history of vaping that has bought one model from the start and stuck with it over the years? (apparently not likely).

Started about 10 months ago with an Intellicig EVO - that's a 402. (ie. - a 401 with a short batt)
About 2 months into it and I switched to generic 401's - that's a slightly longer battery, but atomizers, carts, etc. are interchangeable.

Still using 401's and haven't tried anything else. Haven't had but one cig in 8 months and it was to satisfy my curiosity rather than any craving.

I'm thinking of getting a couple of eGo batts for longer battery life, and the adapters that will let me stick with the 401 atomizers.
 
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M&M

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Haven't heard whether we should roll with an automatic or a manual eGo. Am I wrong in assuming that the manual lasts longer on the battery life and allows you a longer self-controlled drag? Appears that automatics also have automatic drag shutoffs. Is that true of the eGo?
(Mike<---copying/pasting responses fast and furiously into his PVAM - Personal Vape Advice Manual)
 

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Personally Id go manual - you have total control over it. Just press a button and vape. The autos you have to suck hard on to get it to work and some often turn on in reaction to loud noises (not sure if they fixed that but it used to be an issue). ALso with a manual you can drip - the battery is sealed and cant be damaged by juice whereas the autos are not sealed.
Not sure if eGo comes in auto but it certainly comes in manual :)
 
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